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BWU, 6-22-17 (Destiny)

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 19:52 (2800 days ago)

Beep Boop, No insight at all!

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Both 360 and the One get the PS exclusives in October

by FyreWulff, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 19:53 (2800 days ago) @ Korny

Better late than never, I guess, wonder if that means the Vex Dishwasher strike will enter the Nightfall rotation then?

What a joke on XB1 owners.

by DEEP_NNN, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 21:39 (2800 days ago) @ FyreWulff

Not that this eventuality hasn't been expected. I'll be heads-up in D2 and I won't forget how Bungie snubbed XB1 owners and robbed us of reasonable access to content. Before anyone says it's Activision's responsibility, remember how much Bungie touted their independence years ago.

Regarding XB1X performance. The latest from Bungie is how they would never limit their game's performance to appease a partner. Why would I believe these statements? The evidence suggests they might wait as late as D3 release before they enable performance in D2 that could have been there since day one.
https://twitter.com/knowsworthy/status/875391245610135552

I will blame and remind Bungie every time I feel screwed.

I feel kind of cheap using a Bungie fan forum for bashing Bungie. There was a time when I was very much a fan.

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 23:00 (2800 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN

Not that this eventuality hasn't been expected. I'll be heads-up in D2 and I won't forget how Bungie snubbed XB1 owners and robbed us of reasonable access to content. Before anyone says it's Activision's responsibility, remember how much Bungie touted their independence years ago.


Regarding XB1X performance. The latest from Bungie is how they would never limit their game's performance to appease a partner. Why would I believe these statements? The evidence suggests they might wait as late as D3 release before they enable performance in D2 that could have been there since day one.
https://twitter.com/knowsworthy/status/875391245610135552

I will blame and remind Bungie every time I feel screwed.

I feel kind of cheap using a Bungie fan forum for bashing Bungie. There was a time when I was very much a fan.

Did you listen to the DBO podcast? Xenos does a good job of explaining why the frame rate could well be a limitation of the Xbox One X. I don't assume Bungie are liars. I understand not liking exclusives. Your rhetoric strikes me as a bit overblown.

What a joke on XB1 owners.

by DEEP_NNN, Friday, June 23, 2017, 00:01 (2800 days ago) @ Kermit

I didn't listen to that podcast. I've already accepted that XB1/XB1X interoperability is limited by the XB1 as far as framerate goes. PS family have the same problem.

So far Bungie has been acting like XB1X is some strange new system they just heard about. That simply can't be true since other developers are already announcing their game's new features for it. At this point I don't expect to see any advanced features that don't appear on the PS4 Pro. I still have hope but no expectation for any graphical enhancements that XB1X could be fully capable if turned on. I.E. colour, reflections, textures, particle effects, resolutions.

I'm holding back a bit from what I think overblown would be. Too much effort to do all the typing. ;)

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Friday, June 23, 2017, 05:00 (2800 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
edited by Korny, Friday, June 23, 2017, 05:24

I didn't listen to that podcast. I've already accepted that XB1/XB1X interoperability is limited by the XB1 as far as framerate goes. PS family have the same problem.

So far Bungie has been acting like XB1X is some strange new system they just heard about. That simply can't be true since other developers are already announcing their game's new features for it. At this point I don't expect to see any advanced features that don't appear on the PS4 Pro. I still have hope but no expectation for any graphical enhancements that XB1X could be fully capable if turned on. I.E. colour, reflections, textures, particle effects, resolutions.

Come on, dude, you sound like the people that bought into that "300,000 Cloud servers" blast processing garbage that MS used to trick you into buying an Xbone in the first place. Pretty sure that until we have another generation of consoles, Destiny is going to be more or less the same on mid-gen as it is on launch day consoles. They have to run simultaneously, and they're running off of Bungie's servers, so I doubt that they even would run a separate set of files/textures/effects for multiple console types at once (at least not without increasing load times for the older consoles, or affecting performance in some way, since Bungie's not a fan of giving players advanced gameplay settings.). And as for "advance features that don't appear on the PS4 pro", I doubt that Bungie has a separate "just for xXBoXx!" team thinking up extra work that they are eager to do that they can lump in and playtest.


I'm holding back a bit from what I think overblown would be. Too much effort to do all the typing. ;)

Well thank goodness for that. ;)

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Rofl blast processing.

by Funkmon @, Friday, June 23, 2017, 15:51 (2799 days ago) @ Korny

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Marry Me!

by Morpheus @, High Charity, Friday, June 23, 2017, 23:18 (2799 days ago) @ Funkmon

Is three-way marriage a thing?

;-D

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Friday, June 23, 2017, 14:44 (2799 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN

I didn't listen to that podcast. I've already accepted that XB1/XB1X interoperability is limited by the XB1 as far as framerate goes. PS family have the same problem.

That's not the reason Xenos talked about. If I recall, he posited that the Xbox One X, like the PS4 Pro, has the CPU limitations that prohibit Destiny from running 4K at 60 fps.

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Friday, June 23, 2017, 14:51 (2799 days ago) @ Kermit

Right, as I recall, the Xbox One X is suppose to have about 30% more CPU power than a normal Xbox One. That is nowhere near enough to double the frame rate of a game. There is simply not enough extra CPU time to do two frames where they used to do one frame.

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, June 23, 2017, 15:24 (2799 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Right, as I recall, the Xbox One X is suppose to have about 30% more CPU power than a normal Xbox One. That is nowhere near enough to double the frame rate of a game. There is simply not enough extra CPU time to do two frames where they used to do one frame.

You're obviously assuming it was already close to peak capacity, which might not be true, especially given the 360 already ran the game at the same framerate. Still, I trust their reasons to not push for 60fps are well-founded.

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by Xenos @, Shores of Time, Friday, June 23, 2017, 14:53 (2799 days ago) @ Kermit

I didn't listen to that podcast. I've already accepted that XB1/XB1X interoperability is limited by the XB1 as far as framerate goes. PS family have the same problem.


That's not the reason Xenos talked about. If I recall, he posited that the Xbox One X, like the PS4 Pro, has the CPU limitations that prohibit Destiny from running 4K at 60 fps.

Yeah Xbox vice president Mike Ybarra answered the concern on twitter concerning frame rates specifically. He stated it's completely up to the developer if they decide to make the frame rate higher on the XB1X version, even in a multiplayer game. The main thing to point out though is CPU is a (if not the) major limiter in frame rate, especially when your game engine was built for 30fps. If the PS4 Pro can't manage it in D2 with a 2.1 GHz CPU, it's incredibly unlikely that the XB1X with a 2.3 GHz CPU can (less than 9% more computational power).

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by narcogen ⌂ @, Andover, Massachusetts, Friday, June 23, 2017, 23:52 (2799 days ago) @ Kermit

I didn't listen to that podcast. I've already accepted that XB1/XB1X interoperability is limited by the XB1 as far as framerate goes. PS family have the same problem.


That's not the reason Xenos talked about. If I recall, he posited that the Xbox One X, like the PS4 Pro, has the CPU limitations that prohibit Destiny from running 4K at 60 fps.

Why is no one asking about 1080p60?

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What a joke on XB1 owners.

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Saturday, June 24, 2017, 00:09 (2799 days ago) @ narcogen
edited by Cody Miller, Saturday, June 24, 2017, 00:17

I didn't listen to that podcast. I've already accepted that XB1/XB1X interoperability is limited by the XB1 as far as framerate goes. PS family have the same problem.


That's not the reason Xenos talked about. If I recall, he posited that the Xbox One X, like the PS4 Pro, has the CPU limitations that prohibit Destiny from running 4K at 60 fps.


Why is no one asking about 1080p60?

Because it wouldn't make a difference.

Try it yourself on a PC: run a game at a super low resolution and note the framerate. Now move up to the next highest but still low resolution.

Huh. The framerate stays the same. How can that be when the game is rendering more? It's because at that point it's CPU bound. The CPU has to generate display lists to send to the GPU, calculate AI, physics, input, IO, and shit like that. It will hit a point where you can add as much GPU power as you want, but it won't be able to feed the GPU any faster.

Bungie has said Des2ny is CPU bound on consoles, which means no 60fps, even at 144p.

That being said, I think the fact that the crucible can't run at 60fps is bullshit, since all the complexity of the co-op component is gone, and games like Overwatch manage just fine on a regular PS4.

What do you get if you spell Xeno backwards?

by Pyromancy @, Friday, June 23, 2017, 02:28 (2800 days ago) @ Kermit

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btw Kermit

by FyreWulff, Friday, June 23, 2017, 03:36 (2800 days ago) @ Kermit

we should totally run the vex dishwasher strike on 360 after it becomes available. I legit think we could have a world first on completing it lol

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I'm there!

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Friday, June 23, 2017, 07:45 (2799 days ago) @ FyreWulff

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Count me in!t

by Oholiab @, Friday, June 23, 2017, 11:21 (2799 days ago) @ FyreWulff

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I am pleased by the Destiny 1 carryover emblems.

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 20:02 (2800 days ago) @ Korny

Sure, I'd love my Song of Spheres to carry on, but the Year 1 Moment of Triumph one should be exclusive enough. If not that, then the 5,000 Grimoire score one. It looks nice. :)

rip the legacy bungie emblems i guess though

by FyreWulff, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 20:05 (2800 days ago) @ Ragashingo

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I'll miss my Shield of Mythics emblem.

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Thursday, June 22, 2017, 20:17 (2800 days ago) @ FyreWulff

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I am pleased by the Destiny 1 carryover emblems.

by narcogen ⌂ @, Andover, Massachusetts, Friday, June 23, 2017, 23:52 (2799 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Sure, I'd love my Song of Spheres to carry on, but the Year 1 Moment of Triumph one should be exclusive enough. If not that, then the 5,000 Grimoire score one. It looks nice. :)

It seems so. I got the first offers to buy my Bungie.net account after those emblems were announced.

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You spelled TWAB wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

by UnrealCh13f @, San Luis Obispo, CA, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 20:38 (2800 days ago) @ Korny

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You mean THAB?

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Thursday, June 22, 2017, 20:39 (2800 days ago) @ UnrealCh13f

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Yes, he means THAB.

by slycrel ⌂, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 22:58 (2800 days ago) @ dogcow

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That's a lot of Glimmer he's carrying

by Zero @, Florida, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 21:18 (2800 days ago) @ Korny

Seems we finally get to carry more than 25,000 Glimmer on our person.

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That's a lot of Glimmer he's carrying

by Speedracer513 @, Dallas, Texas, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 21:26 (2800 days ago) @ Zero

https://twitter.com/DeeJ_BNG/status/878007105705213953

Word to the wise: Always read the fine print below an image from a game that is still in development!

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Well we still deserve to carry more!

by Zero @, Florida, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 21:31 (2800 days ago) @ Speedracer513

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Stickers :(

by DEEP_NNN, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 21:45 (2800 days ago) @ Korny

Yup! Those D2 Destiny noobs are really going to look at those stickers and wet themselves in awe of our experience. For one week maybe, before we put up the latest milestone sticker.

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Stickers :(

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 22:05 (2800 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN

Nah. I love rocking an emblem that people can't get anymore. When I play crucible I usually get several questions about Song of Spheres these days, for instance. Pretty neat.

Stickers :(

by Avateur @, Friday, June 23, 2017, 18:00 (2799 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Nah. I love rocking an emblem that people can't get anymore. When I play crucible I usually get several questions about Song of Spheres these days, for instance. Pretty neat.

Just these days? I have gotten messages for years over that thing. It's also pretty much the only emblem I have ever used for these past three years. I really wish I could carry that one over to Destiny 2.

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Stickers :(

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Friday, June 23, 2017, 18:28 (2799 days ago) @ Avateur

I seemed to get a whole lot more after the Age of Triumph was announced. I think maybe people are looking for easy emblems to snag for that one record book circle.

Stickers :(

by Avateur @, Friday, June 23, 2017, 18:31 (2799 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Ah, maybe that's it. I haven't been doing Destiny as much lately, but I have mostly been doing custom games when I have. It's been so much fun. I seriously wish Destiny had this earlier, because it was such a wonderful time in Halo. My group had a blast this past weekend. Titans vs. Warlocks, 3v2, 3v1, h unting for the Ghosts on the multiplayer maps, and other whacky concepts we could come up with. Not gonna get any messages about emblems doing customs. :P

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I don't understand.

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Friday, June 23, 2017, 18:31 (2799 days ago) @ Korny

Securing Your Age of Triumph Shirt

You have until August 1, 2017 to reach Rank 7 and unlock the discounted offer to claim >your Age of Triumph Shirt. While they will not be their last occurrences, you might need to complete some of these activities to be counted in your Age of Triumph Record Book.

Every Weekend: Trials of Osiris
July 4, 2017: Iron Banner
July 4, 2017: King’s Fall Weekly Featured Raid
July 11, 2017: Wrath of the Machine Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Crota’s End Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Daybreak Month Begins
July 25, 2017: Vault of Glass Weekly Featured Raid
August 1, 2017: Age of Triumph Shirt Offer Expires!

Why are the raids still being placed behind a dated gate?

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I don't understand.

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Friday, June 23, 2017, 18:39 (2799 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

Securing Your Age of Triumph Shirt

You have until August 1, 2017 to reach Rank 7 and unlock the discounted offer to claim >your Age of Triumph Shirt. While they will not be their last occurrences, you might need to complete some of these activities to be counted in your Age of Triumph Record Book.

Every Weekend: Trials of Osiris
July 4, 2017: Iron Banner
July 4, 2017: King’s Fall Weekly Featured Raid
July 11, 2017: Wrath of the Machine Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Crota’s End Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Daybreak Month Begins
July 25, 2017: Vault of Glass Weekly Featured Raid
August 1, 2017: Age of Triumph Shirt Offer Expires!


Why are the raids still being placed behind a dated gate?

You can get challenge rewards only from the featured raid of the week. You can play them at any time, though.

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I don't understand.

by Xenos @, Shores of Time, Friday, June 23, 2017, 18:44 (2799 days ago) @ Kermit

You can get challenge rewards only from the featured raid of the week. You can play them at any time, though.

With the minor exception that you can't play the slightly higher light level version of Wrath of the Machine (since it's not that big of a different) unless it's the featured raid.

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Oh yeah, I forgot.

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Friday, June 23, 2017, 19:12 (2799 days ago) @ Xenos

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That's not what I mean.

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Friday, June 23, 2017, 20:45 (2799 days ago) @ Kermit

Securing Your Age of Triumph Shirt

You have until August 1, 2017 to reach Rank 7 and unlock the discounted offer to claim >your Age of Triumph Shirt. While they will not be their last occurrences, you might need to complete some of these activities to be counted in your Age of Triumph Record Book.

Every Weekend: Trials of Osiris
July 4, 2017: Iron Banner
July 4, 2017: King’s Fall Weekly Featured Raid
July 11, 2017: Wrath of the Machine Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Crota’s End Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Daybreak Month Begins
July 25, 2017: Vault of Glass Weekly Featured Raid
August 1, 2017: Age of Triumph Shirt Offer Expires!

Why are the raids still being placed behind a dated gate?


You can get challenge rewards only from the featured raid of the week. You can play them at any time, though.

July is the last month before the Age of Triumph shirt offer expires. Why aren't all the raids featured for July? Why put that obligation there? Destiny 1 is end of life.

Barring a technical reason, which I heavily doubt, Why are the raids still being placed behind a dated gate?

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That's not what I mean.

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Friday, June 23, 2017, 21:38 (2799 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

Securing Your Age of Triumph Shirt

You have until August 1, 2017 to reach Rank 7 and unlock the discounted offer to claim >your Age of Triumph Shirt. While they will not be their last occurrences, you might need to complete some of these activities to be counted in your Age of Triumph Record Book.

Every Weekend: Trials of Osiris
July 4, 2017: Iron Banner
July 4, 2017: King’s Fall Weekly Featured Raid
July 11, 2017: Wrath of the Machine Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Crota’s End Weekly Featured Raid
July 18, 2017: Daybreak Month Begins
July 25, 2017: Vault of Glass Weekly Featured Raid
August 1, 2017: Age of Triumph Shirt Offer Expires!

Why are the raids still being placed behind a dated gate?


You can get challenge rewards only from the featured raid of the week. You can play them at any time, though.


July is the last month before the Age of Triumph shirt offer expires. Why aren't all the raids featured for July? Why put that obligation there? Destiny 1 is end of life.

Barring a technical reason, which I heavily doubt, Why are the raids still being placed behind a dated gate?

You're asking why they're following through with the raid schedule that has been in place and expected for months now. If you're saying you wish they'd open it up, that's a different conversation using different words.

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Different Words

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Friday, June 23, 2017, 22:33 (2799 days ago) @ Kermit

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Different Words

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Saturday, June 24, 2017, 12:10 (2798 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

INSANEDrive comes to visit me on a Saturday afternoon. I answer the door, we cheerfully greet each other, and I let him in. He sits down on the couch.

INSANEDrive: I don't understand! Why isn't Kermit making me a sandwich?

Me:
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Words ar hard | The Thrilling Conclusion!

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 00:15 (2794 days ago) @ Kermit

INSANEDrive comes to visit me on a Saturday afternoon. I answer the door, we cheerfully greet each other, and I let him in. He sits down on the couch.

INSANEDrive: I don't understand! Why isn't Kermit making me a sandwich?

Me:
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Words ar hard | The Thrilling Conclusion!

by Claude Errera @, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 09:16 (2793 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

Here's a simple question for you:

Do you believe that there are no potential programming hurdles to multiple 'featured raids'?

(That is: do you believe that there is no coding that might be necessary to allow more than one (well, in your mind, ALL) raids to be treated as the 'featured' raid each week (which would be required to remove the time gates you're complaining about), and do you think that coding (and the required certification of the changes, etc) is the best use of their time, at this stage in Destiny's life?)

Here's the thing. None of us know exactly why the time gates still exist - Bungie hasn't told us. So you're asking for speculation, but you're asking for it in a way that suggests that the only RATIONAL answer is yours - that there shouldn't be any time gates at this point. I'm simply asking you to consider that there might be practical, completely not-player-related reasons. In the past, they've definitely DONE things like this (relaxed restrictions at end-of-life), so the fact that they're not suggests (to me) that there are other factors involved.

I'm not Bungie. I have zero inside information about this topic. But if it were me, and if doing this wasn't trivial, I'd probably say "well, we've been telling them that August 1 is the deadline for the shirt achievements for many, many months now, so it's not like they haven't had multiple opportunities to complete each circle on that page. We have a lot on our plate - the Destiny 2 Beta, trade shows galore, the launch of Destiny 2. There simply isn't time to make this happen on our end. If they've left things to the last minute, but don't HAVE a last minute, I guess they didn't really want the shirt."

That's what I would say. And as someone who has, many many times in my life, left things to the last minute and then griped when I wasn't given extra opportunities to make up for that procrastination, I completely understand how it feels to face a deadline I know I can't make. But in the end, it's not their job to accommodate you here. Sorry if that sounds harsh. :(

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Conclusion!

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 10:16 (2793 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Muh words in Blue!

Here's a simple question for you:

Do you believe that there are no potential programming hurdles to multiple 'featured raids'?

I have to admit, I did not once for a moment consider this. Usually I'm pretty good about this sort of thing. Perhaps that is telling.
(That is: do you believe that there is no coding that might be necessary to allow more than one (well, in your mind, ALL) raids to be treated as the 'featured' raid each week (which would be required to remove the time gates you're complaining about), and do you think that coding (and the required certification of the changes, etc) is the best use of their time, at this stage in Destiny's life?)

... and the back end stuff.
Here's the thing. None of us know exactly why the time gates still exist - Bungie hasn't told us. So you're asking for speculation, but you're asking for it in a way that suggests that the only RATIONAL answer is yours - that there shouldn't be any time gates at this point. I'm simply asking you to consider that there might be practical, completely not-player-related reasons. In the past, they've definitely DONE things like this (relaxed restrictions at end-of-life), so the fact that they're not suggests (to me) that there are other factors involved.

This I do have something to say for, as I know that what I ask is ultimately a speculative affair. I wouldn't have put the effort if I was asking anywhere else on the net. What can I say, I enjoy the intelligent discordance, the observations and input that seem all so few elsewhere on the net. I ask because there can be something I missed. And what do ya know, first reply - and I did. I'm not sure If I understand how my words denote a suggestion that only my answer is rational, and it certainly isn't why I made a point to speak these observations in the first place. I gave my "Why" to see if holes could be poked in the logic, as maybe there isn't something I missed, just my logic flawed.
I'm not Bungie. I have zero inside information about this topic. But if it were me, and if doing this wasn't trivial, I'd probably say "well, we've been telling them that August 1 is the deadline for the shirt achievements for many, many months now, so it's not like they haven't had multiple opportunities to complete each circle on that page. We have a lot on our plate - the Destiny 2 Beta, trade shows galore, the launch of Destiny 2. There simply isn't time to make this happen on our end. If they've left things to the last minute, but don't HAVE a last minute, I guess they didn't really want the shirt."

If all these affairs could be done lone wolf, even if it was with fair amount of difficulty, I would be right with ya Wu. Yet, it's not, and this is why Bungie made their "Guided Games" system for Destiny 2. Bungie is tenably aware the issue exists, and it's a shame there might not be a simple solution that could only be done due to the waning months left.
That's what I would say. And as someone who has, many many times in my life, left things to the last minute and then griped when I wasn't given extra opportunities to make up for that procrastination, I completely understand how it feels to face a deadline I know I can't make. But in the end, it's not their job to accommodate you here. Sorry if that sounds harsh. :(

Oh! No worries! Even if I did feel you were being aggressive and harsh, I know you mean well. You're a gentle giant Wu. ^_^

Thank you.

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Delivering Hope: Lone Wolves are fine

by Robot Chickens, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 12:08 (2793 days ago) @ INSANEdrive
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If all these affairs could be done lone wolf, even if it was with fair amount of difficulty, I would be right with ya Wu. Yet, it's not, and this is why Bungie made their "Guided Games" system for Destiny 2. Bungie is tenably aware the issue exists, and it's a shame there might not be a simple solution that could only be done due to the waning months left.

Rellekh got 100% for her book without any Raid nodes filled out. She also only filled two crucible-related nodes (one for finding Ghosts in the crucible and one for getting kills in the crucible ). She also did it all in the time span of a week. It is totally possible to lone-wolf your path to the t-shirt.

Record

She has since gotten Efrideet's approval, the win Control matches, general win nodes, and kills as Warlock/Hunter/Titan nodes because she played the game during Iron Banner week. None of those were filled out when she got 100% and all of those are still achievable lone-wolf things.

All that to say, it's not out of reach.

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In other words...

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 12:15 (2793 days ago) @ Robot Chickens
edited by Kermit, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 12:26

You don't have to leave that lone wolf stuff behind, as long as you make it count.

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...Hold my hand.

by DiscipleN2k @, Edmond, OK, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 12:31 (2793 days ago) @ Kermit

Sorry. Too much Evangelion back in the day.

-Disciple

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#carterwaswrong

by Robot Chickens, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 12:38 (2793 days ago) @ Kermit

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To be fair...

by Xenos @, Shores of Time, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 12:55 (2793 days ago) @ Robot Chickens

Spartans never die was just propaganda.
Guardians it's much closer to true :)

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To be fair...

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 14:24 (2793 days ago) @ Xenos
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Um... I'd wager more Guardiansthan Spartans have died.

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To be fair...

by Xenos @, Shores of Time, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 14:31 (2793 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Um... I'd wager more Guardians than Spartans have died.

That may be true, but their history is a lot longer, and their battles often involve scenarios that would wipe out a Spartan as well. The difference is in MOST scenarios the Guardian would be revived by his Ghost while the Spartan is just dead.

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To be fair...

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, June 29, 2017, 15:00 (2793 days ago) @ Xenos

Um... I'd wager more Guardians than Spartans have died.


That may be true, but their history is a lot longer, and their battles often involve scenarios that would wipe out a Spartan as well. The difference is in MOST scenarios the Guardian would be revived by his Ghost while the Spartan is just dead.

As a firm believer in UNSC propaganda, I'm going to pretend that you didn't just type that. ;)

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