
Predictions (Destiny)
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Wednesday, August 02, 2017, 19:58 (2757 days ago)
edited by Cody Miller, Wednesday, August 02, 2017, 20:12
https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?mode=entry&id=29323
Looking back…
1. The speaker IS the real traveler.
Not yet ruled out.
2. The Traveler created the Hive.
Book of Sorrows proves this one wrong.
3. The traveler is actually evil (or else just using humans for some purpose)
Not ruled out but unlikely.
4. The Master Chief sent the traveler to Earth.
Debunked after consulting with experts.
5. R+L=J
Spot on.
I'm still going with number 1. After all, is it a coincidence that right as the Cabal drain the Traveler's light, the Speaker vanishes?
Let's make new ones!
1. Maya Sundaresh is the Exo Stranger
2. Exos are Proto Vex
3. Rasputin shot down the Traveler
4. The queen is dead
5. The queen is alive
6. We have to utilize the "wishes" from the Ahamkara to help us get our light back in Des2ny.
7. Destiny is set in the past.
8. Xur is really into Sparrow Racing

Predictions
by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Wednesday, August 02, 2017, 20:53 (2757 days ago) @ Cody Miller
1. Maya Sundaresh is the Exo Stranger
Hope this gets expanded on.
2. Exos are Proto Vex
I find that unlikely, though not impossible.
3. Rasputin shot down the Traveler
I really want this one to be true and a bunch of evident suggests it is, with just enough leeway to let people convincingly argue against.
4. The queen is dead
5. The queen is alive
I'm calling Schrodinger's Queen right now. You can reference this later if she is either obviously alive or obviously dead.
6. We have to utilize the "wishes" from the Ahamkara to help us get our light back in Des2ny.
Yeah, that would a good way to introduce Ahamkara's to the general public.
7. Destiny is set in the past.
lolwut no
8. Xur is really into Sparrow Racing
Heh
https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?mode=entry&id=29323
Looking back…
1. The speaker IS the real traveler.
Not yet ruled out.
2. The Traveler created the Hive.
Book of Sorrows proves this one wrong.
3. The traveler is actually evil (or else just using humans for some purpose)
Not ruled out but unlikely.
4. The Master Chief sent the traveler to Earth.
Debunked after consulting with experts.
5. R+L=J
Spot on.I'm still going with number 1. After all, is it a coincidence that right as the Cabal drain the Traveler's light, the Speaker vanishes?
Let's make new ones!
1. Maya Sundaresh is the Exo Stranger
I concur.
2. Exos are Proto Vex
Hmm. I don't think so. I think the Exos were originally machines made for war, relatively unthinking. Then some of them became the vessels into which were poured the "minds" of the human simulations "rescued" from the vex simulation (a'la Maya Sundaresh). And, from there, they built more that could think for themselves.
3. Rasputin shot down the Traveler
I concur.
4. The queen is dead
5. The queen is alive
I concur. I think the Queen and Eris are/were in cahoots to depose Oryx and steal the hive and his throne world via the sword doctrine. While the guardians defeated him, it was the Queen and Eris who orchestrated the series of events that ended Oryx, and in that sense, they defeated him with their strategy and the trap they set. As such, I believe Eris can use Oryx's throne world to bring the Queen back to life, at which point the Queen will assume control of the hive.
Adding my own prediction:
5a. The Awoken became awoken by using the hive worms. Eating them, probably.
6. We have to utilize the "wishes" from the Ahamkara to help us get our light back in Des2ny.
I know nothing about this, but it seems a little unlikely, simply given the worlds we're set to visit. I am really curious to see more about the Ahamkara, though. Given that they have significant mentions in the lore, but have yet to appear in game (at least, not alive), I'd really like to see them in D2.
6a. The Nine are the last living Ahamkara.
7. Destiny is set in the past.
I completely disagree.
8. Xur is really into Sparrow Racing
Hahahaha. I like the thought I read on reddit that, unless the tower was destroyed on a Friday or Saturday, Xur will be very confused when next he arrives.
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With regards to the Speaker being the actual Traveler, I don't think so. Mostly because I really hate the speaker because of how he talks down to the guardian, but also a little bit because I think the Traveler wouldn't be so mundane as to actually speak to us that way. I'm a big fan of the enigmatic power.
9. I think the Fallen were originally chosen by the Traveler and given their own golden age, but eventually turned their thoughts toward perverting the traveler's gifts to them. Instead of "well, some of us are immortal guardians and the others are normal people, and that's fine" they decided "we can force the traveler to make us all immortal" and they built a Great Machine to drain light from the Traveler and turn it into ether, which made those who drank/breathed it immortal. Which is why they must now hunt the traveler and guardians everywhere, lest they run out of ether and die. It's also why the Traveler left them, which caused the Great Whirlwind etc...
10. Speaking of the Traveler, I think what we have been calling the Traveler is actually the Great Machine that the Fallen built to harvest ether from it. The actual traveler is somewhere inside the device. I didn't get to play on the Farm, but I saw the gif timelapse of it where you could see... the traveler? Cracked in half and leaking something (Ether? Light?) off in the distance. I don't know what the Traveler is, but i think the machine we call the Traveler is just a shell. Or an egg..?

Going off the deep end.
by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Thursday, August 03, 2017, 06:35 (2757 days ago) @ Kahzgul
10. Speaking of the Traveler, I think what we have been calling the Traveler is actually the Great Machine that the Fallen built to harvest ether from it. The actual traveler is somewhere inside the device. I didn't get to play on the Farm, but I saw the gif timelapse of it where you could see... the traveler? Cracked in half and leaking something (Ether? Light?) off in the distance. I don't know what the Traveler is, but i think the machine we call the Traveler is just a shell. Or an egg..?
This is an interesting idea. The lines and texture on the surface added with the exposed architecture definitely give it a manufactured feel. Considering how little information there is about the Traveler and how obviously significant it is...there is tons of room for speculation.
Let's get really crazy. Destiny takes place in the same universe as Halo but further in the future. The hive is an advanced race/version of flood. Gravemind is a wormgod and was surpassed and destroyed by Auryx. Upon realizing the power of the Hive, the Ark channeled its remaining life/power into it's now hollow core planet and gtfo. It began it's journey to Earth to give power back to the forerunners but got snagged by Fallen space pirates and taken to their home planet. After centuries of abuse by the Fallen, the (now known by the Fallen) Traveler, sent a warning pulse which decimated their planet and wiped out the mass majority of Eliksni population causing them to flee their planet. The Traveler now free, continues it's journey to Earth, with Fallen chasing behind. During the second leg of its journey it encountered another race, the Cabal. Learning from its mistakes, when the Cabal approached the traveler it pulsed again, vaporizing an entire Cabal fleet. Learning of this power, the Cabal is also interested and dispatches local fleets to chase, meanwhile their core faction assembles and begins their journey to Earth.

Predictions
by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Thursday, August 03, 2017, 15:03 (2756 days ago) @ Kahzgul
2. Exos are Proto Vex
Hmm. I don't think so. I think the Exos were originally machines made for war, relatively unthinking. Then some of them became the vessels into which were poured the "minds" of the human simulations "rescued" from the vex simulation (a'la Maya Sundaresh). And, from there, they built more that could think for themselves.
Yea. Wasn't Cade a former human? The Vex existed long before Exos.

Predictions
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, August 03, 2017, 15:08 (2756 days ago) @ INSANEdrive
2. Exos are Proto Vex
Hmm. I don't think so. I think the Exos were originally machines made for war, relatively unthinking. Then some of them became the vessels into which were poured the "minds" of the human simulations "rescued" from the vex simulation (a'la Maya Sundaresh). And, from there, they built more that could think for themselves.
Yea. Wasn't Cade a former human? The Vex existed long before
With the Vex, there is no "before".

Predictions
by Xenos , Shores of Time, Thursday, August 03, 2017, 15:11 (2756 days ago) @ INSANEdrive
Yea. Wasn't Cade a former human? The Vex existed long before Exos.
Sure, but were they originally from that time period or did they time travel to that time period? :)
I seem to remember very vague implications that Vex could actually be humans far in the future. The fact that they have biological components in them definitely implies to me at least that what we see now is probably not what they looked like originally (of course biological engineering from scratch is also possible). Though so much has changed since the original Destiny reveal that even if that was implied at one point it's probably changed.
I still really want to go here:
by Pyromancy , Thursday, August 03, 2017, 15:36 (2756 days ago) @ Xenos
edited by Pyromancy, Thursday, August 03, 2017, 15:53
Though so much has changed since the original Destiny reveal that even if that was implied at one point it's probably changed.
I still really want to go here:
(Annihilated tower / turret looking structure with spiral staircase)
Much like great concept art pieces, it still captures my wonderment
Part of the EDZ we will finally get to see?
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1. The speaker IS the real traveler. / Not yet ruled out.
I've wondered this myself.
2. The Traveler created the Hive. / Book of Sorrows proves this one wrong.
3. The traveler is actually evil (or else just using humans for some purpose) / Not ruled out but unlikely.
Agreed. I think at this point the good/evil is getting pretty grey. I guess we'll find out how caricature-ish they take future bad guys.
4. The Master Chief sent the traveler to Earth. / Debunked after consulting with experts.
5. R+L=J / Spot on.
Let's make new ones!
1. Maya Sundaresh is the Exo Stranger
Yeah. Raga sold me on this one.
2. Exos are Proto Vex
An interesting idea, Time Travel makes things confusing.
3. Rasputin shot down the Traveler
Yep. Pretty sure Rasputin is one of our most dangerous frien-enemies.
4. The queen is dead
5. The queen is alive
It'll be interesting to see where they take this. I think the Queen is alive and the Awoken will eventually become more involved in the system conflicts.
6. We have to utilize the "wishes" from the Ahamkara to help us get our light back in Des2ny.
I doubt it. But I do want to see more about the Ahamkara.
7. Destiny is set in the past.
?? Doesn't the opening D1 cinematic contradict this ??
8. Xur is really into Sparrow Racing
Totally.

Predictions
by Vortech , A Fourth Wheel, Thursday, August 03, 2017, 08:18 (2757 days ago) @ breitzen
7. Destiny is set in the past.
?? Doesn't the opening D1 cinematic contradict this ??
Yeah, but it wouldn't be the first thing to do the time is cyclical / Eternal reoccurrence garbage and use that to lie to the audience about where they are in time (e.g. Battlestar Galactica, The Matrix)
7. Destiny is set in the past.
?? Doesn't the opening D1 cinematic contradict this ??
Yeah, but it wouldn't be the first thing to do the time is cyclical / Eternal reoccurrence garbage and use that to lie to the audience about where they are in time (e.g. Battlestar Galactica, The Matrix)
Yeah, but the "lets pull a fast one on the audience" is not really Bungie's way of storytelling. I just think there's not enough evidence to seriously consider it.

Predictions
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, August 03, 2017, 09:15 (2757 days ago) @ breitzen
7. Destiny is set in the past.
?? Doesn't the opening D1 cinematic contradict this ??
I guess we will see if we can see the Great Red Spot when we visit Io this September…
7. Destiny is set in the past.
?? Doesn't the opening D1 cinematic contradict this ??
I guess we will see if we can see the Great Red Spot when we visit Io this September…
I guess so. I never thought about the art on the Grimoire as canon. Neat find though.

The Queen is alive
by Xenos , Shores of Time, Thursday, August 03, 2017, 09:38 (2757 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Aside from the grimoire evidence, Bungie straight up said it during their Twitch stream with the voice actor who plays Mara Sov.
Aside from the grimoire evidence, Bungie straight up said it during their Twitch stream with the voice actor who plays Mara Sov.
I'm hoping when she comes back she goes all pirate-y like they had described her original character!