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I'd add these issues, many of which are, I feel more serious:
- PvP is stale and uninteresting. The advanced movement and character control from D1 is largely absent. Double primary is boring.
While the OHK-only games are gone (this is good), the other, fun parts of D1 pvp are also gone (this is bad), including 6v6 PvP. Despite the dumbing-down of PvP, it remains grossly imbalanced.
- Party size as it correlates to activities makes no sense. 6 players to raid, 4 to pvp, 3 to strike... It's awful design because it reduces player choice and activity control based on party size.
- The new gear system is still absurdly RNG based.
- The vault was apparently organized by a blind person who doesn't know braille, and it re-organizes itself every time you take out a weapon or add one. You still can't delete items from the vault directly.
- Shaders are consumable isn't the issue now that we've seen how easy they are to get. The problem, rather, is that there are more shaders in the game than the player can actually carry, and deleting unwanted shaders has to be done one at a time. I have 75+ of some of my shaders. Do I want to spent half a damn hour deleting shaders just so I can hold a new one? Of course not. Come on, Bungie.
- The shader and vault problems are emblematic of lots of the supporting systems of the game: They feel rushed, half-assed, and poorly planned. The overall archetecture of patrol mode being integrated into missions is GREAT, but Bungie completely lost patrol being integrated with the Raid (VoG, for example).
- Strikes cannot be selected directly and rely on a random playlist that also completely lacks a "don't let the players play the same strike two or three or even four times in a row" feature.
- Speaking of poor map selection, pvp map voting still isn't a thing? In 2017?
- Custom PvP is missing from D2 when we had it in D1.
- Guided games is poorly implemented and results in waiting in orbit for 20+ minutes for the people seeking guides.
- You have a map, but no compass on your radar to indicate which way you're facing relative to the map. /facepalm
- The whole game reeks of oversimplification while still needlessly obfuscating systems. Which is contradictory design, of course.
- Power level is largely meaningless in the game, begging the question: Why even have it if not to create artificial grindiness within the game?
- Gear is uninteresting and largely boils down to reskins rather than meaningful choices. Most guns within a class feel the same (or ARE the same) with only one minor perk difference.
- MIDA is the PvP defining weapon (in no small part due to the radar and movement bonuses) and, as such, PvP is relegated to largely long distance plinko affairs that aren't fun.
The game is a step forwards in some regards, but a step backwards in many others, often needlessly so. I hope this explanation clears up many of the common issues I've seen discussed here and on other forums.
Complete thread:
- Tomorrow's CoO stream has been cancelled. -
Korny,
2017-11-28, 13:09
- -1
- CougRon, 2017-11-28, 13:54
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-28, 17:25
- Help -
Oholiab,
2017-11-28, 18:18
- Help -
ManKitten,
2017-11-28, 18:35
- Thank you for the primer
- Oholiab, 2017-11-28, 19:20
- Help -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-29, 01:54
- Great summary!
- unoudid, 2017-11-29, 06:22
- Help - Harmanimus, 2017-11-29, 11:01
- Great summary!
- Internetz is drunk -
dogcow,
2017-11-29, 07:11
- +1
- Kermit, 2017-11-29, 08:13
- Internetz is drunk -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 09:22
- Apparently...
- MacAddictXIV, 2017-11-29, 09:22
- Internetz is drunk -
Vortech,
2017-11-29, 09:38
- Internetz is drunk -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 09:48
- Internetz is drunk -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-29, 09:57
- This! Bungie Plz -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 10:07
- This! Bungie Plz - MacAddictXIV, 2017-11-29, 10:13
- I want this, also.
- ManKitten, 2017-11-29, 11:00
- Whatever the hell happened to Mayhem and Inferno?
- ZackDark, 2017-11-29, 11:53
- D2 is Anti-Fun ;)
- unoudid, 2017-11-29, 11:55
- You're not helping!
- MacAddictXIV, 2017-11-29, 12:07
- I couldn't help myself lol
- unoudid, 2017-11-29, 12:14
- Which is why I'm giving you a pass ;-) - MacAddictXIV, 2017-11-29, 12:17
- I couldn't help myself lol
- You're not helping!
- D2 is Anti-Fun ;)
- This! Bungie Plz -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 10:07
- Internetz is drunk -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-29, 09:57
- Internetz is drunk -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 09:48
- + & - of RNG Weapon Perks -
squidnh3,
2017-11-29, 10:03
- + & - of RNG Weapon Perks -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 10:12
- + & - of RNG Weapon Perks -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-30, 02:50
- + & - of RNG Weapon Perks - unoudid, 2017-11-30, 06:25
- + & - of RNG Weapon Perks -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-30, 02:50
- + & - of RNG Weapon Perks - Kermit, 2017-11-29, 10:13
- + & - of RNG Weapon Perks -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 10:12
- Half measures -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-11-29, 11:04
- Half measures - Cody Miller, 2017-12-03, 21:16
- Apparently...
- +1
- Thank you for the primer
- Help -
ManKitten,
2017-11-28, 18:35
- Help -
Oholiab,
2017-11-28, 18:18
- -1