Trouble in 4K land - Input Lag on 1X (Destiny)
I'm not joking, it's bad!
I've not experienced any problems in Titanfall 2 or World of Tanks.
Any other 1X owners want to weigh in?
The game is gorgeous in 4K HDR. Color saturation maybe a bit intense at times. I will have to experiment a bit.
No idea if it will help
by Blackt1g3r 
, Login is from an untrusted domain in MN, Tuesday, December 05, 2017, 12:12 (2624 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
But make sure you try fully powering the console off and/or even a reinstall just in case something went wrong with the install. To make sure it's completely shut down just hold down the power button on the console for > 10 seconds.
Any word on this?
As I assume it's already downloaded for when I get home.
Any word on this?
As I assume it's already downloaded for when I get home.
Nothing yet. Re-installed and still a problem, trying out new controller next.
Can you force the Xbox out of 4K mode somehow and see if it makes a difference?
You definitely can
by kidtsunami , Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 05, 2017, 15:46 (2624 days ago) @ cheapLEY
It's always been a display option to change your resolution...
Temporary fix. Turn TV HDR off.
If your TV supports HDR (High Dynamic Range) and you are experiencing input lag problems turn it off for the HDMI port your XB1X is plugged into.
Not all 4K HDR TVs will have this problem or it may be worse.
My TV is a LG UJ6500, a 2017 model. Input lag for most LG 2017 4K TV have been very good and in the 16 microsecond range with HDR on. I wasn't expecting problems but here they are. I'll now have to take my fight to LG.
It's so disappointing because D2 is remarkably gorgeous in HDR.
Temporary fix. Turn TV HDR off.
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, December 05, 2017, 16:56 (2624 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
If your TV supports HDR (High Dynamic Range) and you are experiencing input lag problems turn it off for the HDMI port your XB1X is plugged into.
Not all 4K HDR TVs will have this problem or it may be worse.
My TV is a LG UJ6500, a 2017 model. Input lag for most LG 2017 4K TV have been very good and in the 16 microsecond range with HDR on.
If you get 16 microseconds of input lag on your display, then you must have a TV from the year 3000. That's over 1000 times faster than conventional tech!
Man, you get around.
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Tuesday, December 05, 2017, 17:27 (2624 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
I've been looking up resources talking about this around the internet and they're all you.
Please share if you have more information. I've got an LG TV on a delivery truck right now.
Are you playing in game mode?
Cody, I don't know what you mean. rtings.com says his TV has around 12 ms input lag.
Man, you get around.
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, December 05, 2017, 17:28 (2624 days ago) @ Kermit
Cody, I don't know what you mean. rtings.com says his TV has around 12 ms input lag.
ms = millisecond
µs = microsecond
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Temporary fix. Turn TV HDR off.
by Vortech , A Fourth Wheel, Tuesday, December 05, 2017, 22:50 (2623 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
Is it just In destiny? And if so, why assume it is an LG problem? (He asks, nervously eying his 2-day-old LG tv)
Temporary fix. Turn TV HDR off.
Other people with the same TV confirmed this painful solution worked for them too.
I'm not done looking for workarounds that allow HDR to work without input lag. Need more time.
Temporary fix. Turn TV HDR off.
Game mode should Allow HDR to work, it just turns off other things. I would seriously try the crazy thing that worked for me, it takes 10 minutes.
Temporary fix. Turn TV HDR off.
Game mode should Allow HDR to work, it just turns off other things. I would seriously try the crazy thing that worked for me, it takes 10 minutes.
Thanks.
I have already mentioned I found a fix. The above was the first workaround which eliminated input lag at the loss of HDR. Not acceptable.
The second workaround I found works perfectly and takes 5 seconds. Gorgeous HDR, no input lag or graphical problems.
It appears LG allows you to select game mode with HDR two ways. One creates serious input lag and one does not. Maybe it's just really poor documentation.
My XB1X never had 4.2.2 turned on and I have done the hard reset. So the problem mentioned on bnet was not the same as mine.
Temporary fix. Turn TV HDR off.
by Vortech , A Fourth Wheel, Thursday, December 07, 2017, 16:29 (2622 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
The second workaround I found works perfectly and takes 5 seconds. Gorgeous HDR, no input lag or graphical problems.
It appears LG allows you to select game mode with HDR two ways. One creates serious input lag and one does not. Maybe it's just really poor documentation.
From The Fix:
3. Do not go into "All settings" mode to set the picture mode or any picture attributes like colour brightness etc. That's seems to be the source of my problem.
Not being able to calibrate my TV is not working "perfectly". I have a hard time calling it a fix, even. Now, I have not encountered the problem myself because I don't have an XBOneX yet, so I'm not planting a flag in the hill yet, but I know I need to be able to adjust the default profiles or I will be very unhappy.
Can confirm. What about your Beorn?
I have the LG OLED C7. In Game Mode, still allows HDR, and it had weird issues. The text on the bottom left would freak out and ban sometimes. When inspecting character the cursor would speed up and down. Sometimes when moving fast, I would get banding. Didn't go back to 1080P and don't know how to just turn off HDR, but it looks great in Halo 5 no issues.
Its clear it's the game itself having the issue, but when it wasn't messing up, it looked so good.
Can confirm. What about your Beorn?
by MacAddictXIV , Seattle WA, Wednesday, December 06, 2017, 07:58 (2623 days ago) @ ChrisTheeCrappy
I have the LG OLED C7. In Game Mode, still allows HDR, and it had weird issues. The text on the bottom left would freak out and ban sometimes. When inspecting character the cursor would speed up and down. Sometimes when moving fast, I would get banding. Didn't go back to 1080P and don't know how to just turn off HDR, but it looks great in Halo 5 no issues.
Its clear it's the game itself having the issue, but when it wasn't messing up, it looked so good.
I haven't heard him say anything about it, but Beorn is basically a techno-mage. So he probably fixed it with his techno-magic
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Heh.
by Ragashingo 
, Official DBO Cryptarch, Wednesday, December 06, 2017, 11:05 (2623 days ago) @ MacAddictXIV
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How did I miss this thread?!
by Beorn , <End of Failed Timeline>, Tuesday, December 12, 2017, 08:00 (2617 days ago) @ Ragashingo
Been a busy work week-and-a-half. Somehow I missed this completely.
Sounds like Deep has it figured out, and his fix is in-line with how I've set up my system to begin with. So no, I haven't been seeing any input lag or performance issues.
Also - some tips for anyone using an LG 7-series OLED (because the menus on the TV are lackluster):
- Each input has its own settings, and SDR, HDR, and Dolby Vision are considered to be separate from one another. Also, If you launch apps on the TV, those are considered to be different inputs as well. So if you're in SDR mode for an input and have all your settings configured, be sure to do the same when the set is displaying an HDR signal, too.
- Dynamic Contrast in SDR should be turned off, but in HDR it does something quite different, and should be set to "Low" for proper HDR display. LG has an obscure PDF on their site somewhere that describes what's happening, but basically, in HDR, the Dynamic Contrast at "Low" turns of "Active HDR" while keeping actual "Dynamic Contrast" processing disabled.
- And yeah, be sure to turn on the HDMI Deep Color setting for your HDMI inputs that will be driving HDR, otherwise it won't work right. Note that you can only enable/disable this setting while that HDMI port is the active source.
- Don't set the "Brightness" setting above 50, otherwise you won't get those luscious OLED blacks. Brightness is an image processing function that will raise the black levels of the entire image, thus making the whole screen light up a bit even when things should be solid black.
- Go buy the Planet Earth II 4K Blu-ray and watch it on your Xbox One X/S. It's incredible.
Can confirm. What about your Beorn?
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, December 06, 2017, 08:09 (2623 days ago) @ ChrisTheeCrappy
I have the LG OLED C7. In Game Mode, still allows HDR, and it had weird issues. The text on the bottom left would freak out and ban sometimes. When inspecting character the cursor would speed up and down. Sometimes when moving fast, I would get banding. Didn't go back to 1080P and don't know how to just turn off HDR, but it looks great in Halo 5 no issues.
Its clear it's the game itself having the issue, but when it wasn't messing up, it looked so good.
Discouraging news. I've got a B7 coming soon. I'll report back.
Workaround found. Hallelujah!
Spent an hour on Mercury and Io in rather spectacular 4K HDR and NO input lag problems. It was glorious! No framerate, graphics or gameplay problems of any kind.
If any other new LG owners have problems, this may help you. They all have WebOS with a similar menu system.
1. The HDMI port must have HDR turned on in the General settings menu. After this your XB1X should show a complete list of all the 4K comparability under video settings.
2. Select settings and then Game picture mode. Voilà!
3. Do not go into "All settings" mode to set the picture mode or any picture attributes like colour brightness etc. That's seems to be the source of my problem.
BTW, only people who use a 4K HDR TV can tell you how good it can look. There is no way to show it unless you're in front of it. Same goes for OLED versions.
I'm very jealous of you soon to be LG OLED owners. You are in for a treat!
I'm not positive I'm out of the woods yet but it sure seems like it.
Workaround found. Hallelujah!
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Thursday, December 07, 2017, 03:49 (2622 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
There are so many variables. I hoped that your issue was a matter of making the right adjustments. The shipping company called wanting to deliver my tv oday but I'll be out of town until next week. :(
Workaround found. Hallelujah!
by Vortech , A Fourth Wheel, Thursday, December 07, 2017, 15:22 (2622 days ago) @ Kermit
There are so many variables. I hoped that your issue was a matter of making the right adjustments. The shipping company called wanting to deliver my tv today but I'll be out of town until next week. :(
LOL. You are living my last-week life.
I got a B7A delivered last week, but they missed the scheduled delivery and they wanted to deliver it on the day I was flying out of town. (I made them bring it before I left so I didn't have to worry about it. Hopefully it all works out for you.).
Trouble in 4K land - Input Lag on 1X
by Vortech , A Fourth Wheel, Wednesday, December 06, 2017, 22:29 (2622 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/938118169146695680?s=17
4K land is an unstable place.