Kudos to Bungie, D2 on XB1X in 4K HDR (Destiny)
A few months back I was bad mouthing Bungie about maybe not giving the XB1X the 4K support it should get. Now I'm eating Crow. Mighty fine tasting Crow too.
Digital Foundry is confirming it is native 4K and with HDR. Many good words were said.
Having played it in 4K HDR for a couple of days now, WOW! is not nearly good enough to express my happiness at the eyeball-fest I'm enjoying now. My LG 42 UJ6500 is the lowest level LG to support 4K HDR, so expect to hear super results on better TVs going forward.
I can hardly wait to read what the new OLED owners are going to say.
It's been looking gooooooooood
by kidtsunami 
, Atlanta, GA, Friday, December 08, 2017, 15:33 (2533 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
A few months back I was bad mouthing Bungie about maybe not giving the XB1X the 4K support it should get. Now I'm eating Crow. Mighty fine tasting Crow too.
Digital Foundry is confirming it is native 4K and with HDR. Many good words were said.
Having played it in 4K HDR for a couple of days now, WOW! is not nearly good enough to express my happiness at the eyeball-fest I'm enjoying now. My LG 42 UJ6500 is the lowest level LG to support 4K HDR, so expect to hear super results on better TVs going forward.
I can hardly wait to read what the new OLED owners are going to say.
Like wow, the art team at Bungie is crushing it.
It's been looking gooooooooood
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Friday, December 08, 2017, 15:43 (2533 days ago) @ kidtsunami
A few months back I was bad mouthing Bungie about maybe not giving the XB1X the 4K support it should get. Now I'm eating Crow. Mighty fine tasting Crow too.
Digital Foundry is confirming it is native 4K and with HDR. Many good words were said.
Having played it in 4K HDR for a couple of days now, WOW! is not nearly good enough to express my happiness at the eyeball-fest I'm enjoying now. My LG 42 UJ6500 is the lowest level LG to support 4K HDR, so expect to hear super results on better TVs going forward.
I can hardly wait to read what the new OLED owners are going to say.
Like wow, the art team at Bungie is crushing it.
…they always do.
It's been looking gooooooooood
by Vortech , A Fourth Wheel, Saturday, December 09, 2017, 08:03 (2532 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Whether we wanted it or not…
Agreed
by Beorn , <End of Failed Timeline>, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 09:30 (2531 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
D2 is looking utterly fantastic on my new OLED with 4K HDR (I only got the set a couple weeks ago). The one and only issue I have is that capturing screen recordings is a bit wonky now. The Xbox recording feature allows me to capture as SDR, but everything is sort of washed-out.
SDR recording of HDR gameplay (with some slight contrast enhancement):
I'm playing with some workflows in Premiere to figure out how to make it look best. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them. For now, though, if I'm going to stream or want to record gameplay and party chat, I'll have to switch the Xbox back to regular 1080p, I guess.
Clarification: My normal capture method is to use my Elgato Game Capture HD60, which I have set up to record the Xbox + party chat. But it can't do 4K or handle HDR, so to use it, I'd have to switch back to 1080p.
P.S.: I love that Fusion Rifle (Elatha-FR4)
Agreed
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 10:03 (2531 days ago) @ Beorn
edited by Cody Miller, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 10:10
I'm playing with some workflows in Premiere to figure out how to make it look best. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them. For now, though, if I'm going to stream or want to record gameplay and party chat, I'll have to switch the Xbox back to regular 1080p, I guess.
HDR is only supported by a few containers and codecs. In Premiere, I believe you have two options for HDR: Dolby Vision Mezzanine or Open EXR. You're not going to get HDR into premiere without the footage being one of those. Premiere cannot even get HDR out of RED files, which is why everyone always onlines to Davinci to master and finish in HDR.
This might have changed with CC 2018. I don't know honestly. But I doubt the crappy h.264 capture off your xbox is going to give you HDR even in the source. They should probably update the xbox to record HEVC - as that actually supports HDR and wide gamut via Rec 2100.
HEVC
by Beorn , <End of Failed Timeline>, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 10:35 (2531 days ago) @ Cody Miller
This might have changed with CC 2018. I don't know honestly. But I doubt the crappy h.264 capture off your xbox is going to give you HDR even in the source. They should probably update the xbox to record HEVC - as that actually supports HDR and wide gamut via Rec 2100.
1) The Xbox One X actually does use HEVC for 4K SDR and 4K HDR. And HDR screenshots are saved as both JPEG and 10-bit JPEG-XR. Pretty slick, actually. For 4K HDR captures, it's in the BT.2020 color space, but the bit depth is still reported as 8-bit, which is strange. I'm brand new to handling HDR video, though, so I'm mostly poking around blind with all of this.
2) I'm on the latest Premiere, and it ingests the 4K SDR and 4K HDR just fine. They just look like crap because they're getting crushed to the screen's 8-bit color space. There's even an SDR Conform filter that generally works for luminance, but the colors are all sorts of messed up. I need to play with the Lumetri settings to see if I can coerce a better picture.
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HEVC
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 10:44 (2531 days ago) @ Beorn
edited by Cody Miller, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 10:48
This might have changed with CC 2018. I don't know honestly. But I doubt the crappy h.264 capture off your xbox is going to give you HDR even in the source. They should probably update the xbox to record HEVC - as that actually supports HDR and wide gamut via Rec 2100.
1) The Xbox One X actually does use HEVC for 4K SDR and 4K HDR. And HDR screenshots are saved as both JPEG and 10-bit JPEG-XR. Pretty slick, actually. For 4K HDR captures, it's in the BT.2020 color space, but the bit depth is still reported as 8-bit, which is strange. I'm brand new to handling HDR video, though, so I'm mostly poking around blind with all of this.
I did not know this. Oh my God, a place where Xbox beats the Playstation!
Make a LUT and save it for your HDR to SDR conversion. Then you can apply it to any clips you import. Maybe there are some premade online.
LOL LUT?
by Beorn , <End of Failed Timeline>, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 13:59 (2531 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Make a LUT and save it for your HDR to SDR conversion. Then you can apply it to any clips you import. Maybe there are some premade online.
I have absolutely no idea how to go about doing this. I know roughly what a LUT is, but I don't know how to generate one (properly or otherwise). I did a quick search online for a LUT from someone else who ostensibly knows what the hell they're doing, but I'm not seeing anything yet. Is this something I can do in Premiere?
LOL LUT?
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 14:03 (2531 days ago) @ Beorn
Make a LUT and save it for your HDR to SDR conversion. Then you can apply it to any clips you import. Maybe there are some premade online.
I have absolutely no idea how to go about doing this. I know roughly what a LUT is, but I don't know how to generate one (properly or otherwise). I did a quick search online for a LUT from someone else who ostensibly knows what the hell they're doing, but I'm not seeing anything yet. Is this something I can do in Premiere?
Tell me if this is helpful:
http://www.wesleyknapp.com/blog/hdr
You need Davinci, but it's free. There is a section about creating LUTs. You can import LUTs into Premiere and apply them using Lumetri Color.
LOL LUT?
by Beorn , <End of Failed Timeline>, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 14:06 (2531 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Tell me if this is helpful:
http://www.wesleyknapp.com/blog/hdr
You need Davinci, but it's free.
LOL, I was just in the middle of reading this. I'll let you know if it's helpful (looks like it should be…).
10Bit Video output?
In XB1X video output. Did you set it?
You betcha!
by Beorn , <End of Failed Timeline>, Sunday, December 10, 2017, 13:52 (2531 days ago) @ DEEP_NNN
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