PvP quality seems to be on a more smoothly changing curve. It was great to begin with, then progressively got worse and worse until now. Now things are possibly trending up, so Destiny 3 should ship with great PvP that will eventually be ruined.

A questions to ask though is 'Can they?".

Their deal with Activision seemed like they needed to be cranking out content at a pretty consistent pace. If they really did go back and renegotiate before Destiny 2, and we still ended up with Destiny 2, I don't know if another renegotiation would be ideal.

- MacGyver10

There’s plenty to be disappointed about now.

Destiny seems to suffer from lots of factions arguing over the "correct" game. D2 crucible is a direct result of all the high end players complaining in D1. The changes now are the direct result of the COD crowd realizing that they can't quick scope themselves to victory and hating Bungie for it.

My gripes are comparatively minor in that respect. I had fun in D1 and D2. I'll probably have fun in D3, if I still have time to play at that point.

Really, aside from PVP I hope D3 finally has the world class RPG world to explore. That whole "see this, you can go anywhere" promised in that long ago reveal, populated with interesting NPCs you can actually do things with out in the world.

If they get that right, I don't care if they just stuff Halo 5's MP modes in and call it a day.

I still think there is a strong group at Bungie that views Destiny not as a RPG light shooter, but as a Halo game. It's content is constantly equivalent sidewise to Halo 3, with a similar number of levels and MP maps. They really need to go out and redo their benchmarks.

Nah. I'll get it and will be fun. Even with the issues that D2 is having, it's still a great game when compared to all the other games out there. If you only compare it to Bungie games, then it's a much higher bar to overcome. There are things in D2 that bug me but I'm still playing it a lot. Fortnite has my attention at the moment, but I'll be back to D2.