@stabbim - let’s not inflate what I said. never did I say I was looking for a clan that raids 10x/day nor that I wanted elections to be held for leadership roles.

No one was attacking you or making false accusations. I was just illustrating the difference between an actual, organized tryhard clan, and what DBO clans usually are (a not at all organized collection of people who mostly argue the same few points about microtransactions in an endless loop). Further reading.

(I suppose an argument can be made that when you're nowhere near full, you can approve people who aren't actually known to any current clan members... but it's not really an argument I like.)

Nor I. I want that clan list to be people that have some barest level of pre-screning or I may as well invite randos in the tower or do an LFG site.

There are currently two people in the queue for approval. Neither one has reached out to anyone involved in the admin of the clan, or to anyone they KNOW in the clan; the general rule is that if the gamertag isn't familiar, and nobody actually vouches for them ("X doesn't visit DBO, but I play with them" or some such), they don't get approved. This has ALWAYS been the rule (since D1 days).

FWIW, in the XBox clan the admins will sometimes post a message in clan chat asking whether anyone knows the user in question. Posted messages generate an alert on the smartphone app, but new member requests don't, so it gets more visibility if someone says something.

(I suppose an argument can be made that when you're nowhere near full, you can approve people who aren't actually known to any current clan members... but it's not really an argument I like.)

Nor I. I don't want to let every random request in and try to figure out later whether they're actually a DBO user. I'm in that clan specifically because I don't want to talk to every yahoo who joined the first clan they found.

As Claude has said, we have a general policy of not approving any and all clan requests. We want the DBO clans to remain mostly for active DBO members and some of their active friends.

As the person that’s being referred to when the PS4 DBO Clan Leadership is being maligned, I feel the need to make it clear that it is not a matter of neglecting things that are going on in the PS4 clan. It is simply a matter of understanding what our purpose and principles as a clan entail. That includes keeping the clan as a low-key place for active DBOers to see which of their fellow DBOers are online and make it easy to join up if desired. We have no interest in trying to force people to play more often, nor to accept random requests, just so that the number of people online at any given time is larger. I have had this conversation multiple times with certain members of the clan. I also feel the need to make it clear that I do monitor the clan requests and usually either post a message to the group asking if anyone vouches for the pending users, or sending a direct message to the pending users myself.

This topic comes up every single time we are in a lull between content drops. Believe me, I lament the fact that it sometimes feels like a ghost town, and it does seem to be an issue on PS4 more than on the Xbox side - but that has always been the case that the DBO base is larger on Xbox One. Manh of us have been a part of this community since Halo, after all.

I could go into many different reasons why the DBO PS4 user base isn’t what it used to be during D1. But the fact of the matter is that we all have our own reasons for choosing when and where to play, and we aren’t going to try to pressure anyone to change that, nor are we going to worry about arbitrarily growing our numbers.