disagree with the premise. (Destiny)
Um. No. Playing Bioshock Infinite while ignoring the audio logs leaves you with a very incomplete understanding of motivations.
Sure, more people would have a better understanding of the story if more of it was directly in the path of gameplay. But, if at the end of the day you start trying to talk about story without knowing all the context you're gonna come out factually wrong on key story points like you were in your initial post.
No matter how good or bad your points on dramatic clarity are, you were flat out wrong to suggest that Uldren was an innocent man.
Why was I wrong?Because the game sucked at presenting me the information while telling its story…
You’re right. It sucked at presenting it to you, Cody Miller, in specific. Everyone else in this thread seemed to get it. So yeah, the game may not be presenting a narrative that you can digest easily, but plently of others have not found that to be the case. Some people may even prefer a different delivery. Conversations would be much easier if you gave up the tendency to universalize your experience. Raga just gave you ground and acknowledged some of your points from the clarity thread. It would be courteous to take a bit of ownership of your own unique experience.
Complete thread:
- Innocent man -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 08:49
- Out here in the wild... -
squidnh3,
2018-12-21, 08:55
- Out here in the wild... -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 08:57
- Out here in the wild... - narcogen, 2018-12-21, 16:42
- Out here in the wild... -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 08:57
- Innocent man -
Ragashingo,
2018-12-21, 09:32
- Innocent man -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 09:57
- The Lore Tab. -
Ragashingo,
2018-12-21, 10:19
- The Lore Tab. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 12:16
- The Lore Tab. -
cheapLEY,
2018-12-21, 12:36
- The Lore Tab. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 13:04
- How is it *not* part of the narrative? -
Harmanimus,
2018-12-21, 16:18
- How is it *not* part of the narrative? - narcogen, 2018-12-21, 16:51
- How is it *not* part of the narrative? -
Harmanimus,
2018-12-21, 16:18
- The Lore Tab. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 13:04
- The Lore Tab. -
cheapLEY,
2018-12-21, 12:36
- The Lore Tab. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 12:16
- The Lore Tab. -
Ragashingo,
2018-12-21, 10:19
- Bingo. -
cheapLEY,
2018-12-21, 10:32
- What I want -
narcogen,
2018-12-21, 16:52
- What I want - cheapLEY, 2018-12-21, 17:17
- What I want -
narcogen,
2018-12-21, 16:52
- Innocent man -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 09:57
- Innocent man -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2018-12-21, 10:03
- Innocent man - Cody Miller, 2018-12-21, 10:06
- disagree with the premise. -
slycrel,
2018-12-21, 11:48
- +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-12-21, 11:56
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 12:19
- disagree with the premise. -
Ragashingo,
2018-12-21, 13:40
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 14:03
- disagree with the premise. -
Ragashingo,
2018-12-21, 14:26
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 15:04
- disagree with the premise. -
Robot Chickens,
2018-12-21, 15:40
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 16:35
- disagree with the premise. -
cheapLEY,
2018-12-21, 17:22
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2018-12-21, 19:32
- disagree with the premise. -
cheapLEY,
2018-12-21, 17:22
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 16:35
- disagree with the premise. -
Robot Chickens,
2018-12-21, 15:40
- disagree with the premise. -
Kermit,
2018-12-22, 18:51
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-22, 19:07
- "as presented" - ZackDark, 2018-12-23, 04:48
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-22, 19:07
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 15:04
- disagree with the premise. -
Ragashingo,
2018-12-21, 14:26
- disagree with the premise. - narcogen, 2018-12-21, 16:54
- Damn you, Raga -
ZackDark,
2018-12-22, 10:26
- I loved that. :D -
slycrel,
2018-12-22, 11:42
- :) - Ragashingo, 2018-12-22, 12:04
- I loved that. :D -
slycrel,
2018-12-22, 11:42
- disagree with the premise. -
Cody Miller,
2018-12-21, 14:03
- disagree with the premise. -
Ragashingo,
2018-12-21, 13:40
- Innocent man - narcogen, 2018-12-21, 16:30
- All this thread and... -
ZackDark,
2018-12-22, 10:29
- That's kind of what I was thinking - DiscipleN2k, 2018-12-23, 00:15
- Out here in the wild... -
squidnh3,
2018-12-21, 08:55