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Is that this is a situation of how the mighty have fallen.

Could you imagine a situation where Cliffy B's next game is mobile? Or Jason Jones'? or Jade Raymond?

IMO iPad/Mobile games are a waste of time. They are games that offer little to no immersion, they are the equivalent to DS shovelware. They are done purely as a way of making a quick buck. I have yet to see a mobile game break this mold.

I very much doubt they will. There will soon come a time when iPads/Surface's are able to play fully functional AAA releases (Or indies titles) with a controller. Essentially just turning your iPad into a very small tv. Only then will gaming on a mobile device be a device capable of delivering anything close to what we get at home.

Seropian has proven he can create good games, good studios, run them effectively and with integrity (The recall fiasco) why waste such talents on mobile?

Perhaps because he is interested and sees potential in the mobile platform that you don't see. He was attracted to the platform. I watched their videos a while back, and the story is that Seropian found himself playing mobile games exclusively because of his schedule and lifestyle. He explicitly stated he wants shake up the mobile gaming landscape with this game. And do you really think that a guy like Seropian needs the money? That he is involved might be a clue that this is motivated by passion, not greed.

I find you and Cody both to be close-minded. You're welcome to think it would not be your cup of tea, but to dismiss any interest in it as misplaced is arrogant. I have my own skepticism, but I'm intrigued, and extremely heartened to read Roland's comment above, especially considering he's actually played it.

Is that this is a situation of how the mighty have fallen.

Could you imagine a situation where Cliffy B's next game is mobile? Or Jason Jones'? or Jade Raymond?

IMO iPad/Mobile games are a waste of time. They are games that offer little to no immersion, they are the equivalent to DS shovelware. They are done purely as a way of making a quick buck. I have yet to see a mobile game break this mold.

I very much doubt they will. There will soon come a time when iPads/Surface's are able to play fully functional AAA releases (Or indies titles) with a controller. Essentially just turning your iPad into a very small tv. Only then will gaming on a mobile device be a device capable of delivering anything close to what we get at home.

Seropian has proven he can create good games, good studios, run them effectively and with integrity (The recall fiasco) why waste such talents on mobile?

And yet I love iOS games like Battleheart, Sword & Sworcery, Aquaria (a PC first title that is very playable on the iPad), Waking Mars, and most recently Device 6 which was a pretty darn immersive, very cleverly written interactive story. I'll agree that your average $2.99 iOS game won't equal a AAA console or PC game, but as with everything you can't write off the entire mobile gaming/ touch screen platform and retain a serious / informed argument.

Is that this is a situation of how the mighty have fallen.

Could you imagine a situation where Cliffy B's next game is mobile? Or Jason Jones'? or Jade Raymond?

IMO iPad/Mobile games are a waste of time. They are games that offer little to no immersion, they are the equivalent to DS shovelware. They are done purely as a way of making a quick buck. I have yet to see a mobile game break this mold.

I very much doubt they will. There will soon come a time when iPads/Surface's are able to play fully functional AAA releases (Or indies titles) with a controller. Essentially just turning your iPad into a very small tv. Only then will gaming on a mobile device be a device capable of delivering anything close to what we get at home.

Seropian has proven he can create good games, good studios, run them effectively and with integrity (The recall fiasco) why waste such talents on mobile?

I have gathered your point. I'm just saying I find it very presumptuous, especially because we're talking about a game neither of us has played.

I don't like seeing new things not given a chance and being beaten down with such harsh, judgmental words as 'trash', 'waste', etc., just because someone has grouped them in with previous experiences due to some resemblance or shared terminology. Even the best games share something in common with the worst.

And condemning an entire platform is just absurd.

I think there are interesting things to be done in mobile game design. Do a lot of games use it for a quick buck? Possibly/probably. But then I've also played a few that are not like that at all, as well as worked on/for a few, where that was definitely not the intent.

Yeah, it appears that there are some micro-transactions in this game, which I'm usually not a fan of, but the campaign is also free. So it's not that the model is inherently any more greedy than any other published game on any other platform; it's just different. The key is not letting the greed/model affect your gameplay, and I don't think every mobile game allows that to happen, just because it's 'mobile'.

I have many fond memories playing the original Game Boy, and, while the percentages might be different, I've played many PC/console games that seemed created for a quick buck. So I don't think its the platform that is the deciding factor for greed nor a limiting factor for fun, it's the execution.

Honestly, I think most movies, books, and well, everything tend to be created for greed and end up not very good. But I still give things a chance to find new and unique experiences that are fun, moving, and were created with sincerity. I won't let popular trends color my view of the potentiality of a platform.

IMO iPad/Mobile games are a waste of time. They are games that offer little to no immersion, they are the equivalent to DS shovelware. They are done purely as a way of making a quick buck. I have yet to see a mobile game break this mold.

It sounds to me like you don't play a lot of mobile or tablet games.

"Each weapon can only be taken into battle a set number of times before it needs to recharge in real time. At that point you can either take a break, spend some dough, or take a different loadout into battle."

That doesn't sound very cool, but it's rare that I like every fraction of a game.

It's not just a small part of the game though; shooting in a shooting game is the most fundamental mechanic. If I were to speculate, this sounds like a transparent attempt at creating artificial scarcity in a game as a means to leeching IAP credit out of the player.

Exactly. The game is free to play.

This isn't some interesting mechanic that adds strategy or complexity to the game; this is something designed to suck so people will pay to skirt around it.

I do not understand this. If your game is only not annoying when paid for, why not just have everybody pay for it up front? That way everybody gets the best version of your game.

I still play hail to the chimp with friends every once in a while.

Good man.

—Matt

Yeah… well I play Stubbs through every Halloween! :-p