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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach (Destiny)

by Speedracer513 @, Dallas, Texas, Friday, April 11, 2014, 10:26 (3878 days ago)
edited by Speedracer513, Friday, April 11, 2014, 10:34

Cada planeta do Destiny tem o mesmo tamanho do "Halo: Reach" diz Bungie

Good luck reading the article (unless you speak Portuguese like me!) -- and most of it is all information we've read and heard elsewhere, but this part is highly interesting:

"Os destinos [cenários onde se passa o jogo] como Marte, Lua, Terra, cada um deles é mais ou menos do mesmo tamanho que todo o jogo 'Halo: Reach'".

Translation: The destinations like Mars, the Moon, Earth, each of them is more or less the same size as the whole game of 'Halo: Reach'.

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Tawpgun, Friday, April 11, 2014, 15:12 (3878 days ago) @ Speedracer513

... What does this mean?

Like playable areas are comparable to Reach levels? I don't get it.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Claude Errera @, Friday, April 11, 2014, 16:05 (3878 days ago) @ Tawpgun

... What does this mean?

Like playable areas are comparable to Reach levels? I don't get it.

It's been said before: the playable area of one planet in Destiny is as large as the entire playable area in Reach.

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Tawpgun, Friday, April 11, 2014, 16:29 (3878 days ago) @ Claude Errera

As in one planet = the space of the entire campaign?

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Claude Errera @, Friday, April 11, 2014, 17:24 (3878 days ago) @ Tawpgun

As in one planet = the space of the entire campaign?

That's what it sounded like, yes. This info came out of an interview, so it's not like there was an opportunity for followup/clarification questions for us out here. ;)

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Friday, April 11, 2014, 17:54 (3878 days ago) @ Claude Errera

... What does this mean?

Like playable areas are comparable to Reach levels? I don't get it.


It's been said before: the playable area of one planet in Destiny is as large as the entire playable area in Reach.

Kind of like how Bungie said all of the geometry of Halo 1 could fit into the end of Great Journey in Halo 2?

Which was more fun, the canyon on Great Journey, or Halo 1?

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, April 11, 2014, 18:43 (3878 days ago) @ Cody Miller

Which was more fun, the canyon on Great Journey, or Halo 1?

Well, Halo 1, but there were several other places in Halo 2, the combination of which could be argued to be more fun than Halo 1 due to the size.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by ridum, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 03:49 (3877 days ago) @ ZackDark

'size' does matter to some degree but basically just another vague reference to the vastness of Destiny …

Original pong < 8k, still fun … size is not the only 'deciding' factor in 'fun ness' is funness a word? whatever..

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) ⌂ @, Detroit, Friday, April 11, 2014, 19:16 (3878 days ago) @ Cody Miller

... What does this mean?

Like playable areas are comparable to Reach levels? I don't get it.


It's been said before: the playable area of one planet in Destiny is as large as the entire playable area in Reach.


Kind of like how Bungie said all of the geometry of Halo 1 could fit into the end of Great Journey in Halo 2?

Which was more fun, the canyon on Great Journey, or Halo 1?

The canyon on Great Journey. By, like, a lot.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Avateur @, Friday, April 11, 2014, 19:50 (3877 days ago) @ Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)

It doesn't happen a lot, but there are just some times where you say something and I'm like:

"WHAT?! DAMN HE'S WRONG!"

Just like that.

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) ⌂ @, Detroit, Friday, April 11, 2014, 23:20 (3877 days ago) @ Avateur

It doesn't happen a lot, but there are just some times where you say something and I'm like:

"WHAT?! DAMN HE'S WRONG!"

Just like that.

Oh, yeah? Well then, I'm all:

"WHAT?! THERE'S NO WAY THAT CAN BE RIGHT!"

And that's the bottom line, cause Stone Cold said so.

Annnnd we have a Stone Cold reference!

by rliebherr @, St. Louis, Missouri, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 20:05 (3876 days ago) @ Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)

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Yes, we do.

by Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) ⌂ @, Detroit, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 20:13 (3876 days ago) @ rliebherr

Or, mhmm, excuse me, HELL YEAH!

SNIPE 316. Geddit? ;)

Also, Halo 1 sucks. And if you ain't down with that, I got two words for ya!

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Yes, we do.

by bluerunner @, Music City, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 21:39 (3876 days ago) @ Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)

Also, Halo 1 sucks. And if you ain't down with that, I got two words for ya!

You just couldn't appreciate it in its time since you were 1 year old when it came out. ;)

Yes, we do.

by Avateur @, Sunday, April 13, 2014, 07:28 (3876 days ago) @ bluerunner

Real talk. 1 year olds just have no respect or understanding!

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Yes, we do.

by SonofMacPhisto @, Sunday, April 13, 2014, 07:34 (3876 days ago) @ Avateur

Real talk. 1 year olds just have no respect or understanding!

Right? We were questioning our existence in a lonely canyon while Snipe was pooping himself.

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Yes, we do.

by bluerunner @, Music City, Sunday, April 13, 2014, 10:05 (3876 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto

Real talk. 1 year olds just have no respect or understanding!


Right? We were questioning our existence in a lonely canyon while Snipe was pooping himself.

We're all still doing that.

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Yes, we do.

by SonofMacPhisto @, Sunday, April 13, 2014, 10:37 (3876 days ago) @ bluerunner

Yeah. Speaking of, has anyone checked Snipe today? He probably needs a change.

Yes, we do.

by Avateur @, Sunday, April 13, 2014, 21:35 (3875 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto

It may be cruel, but I usually just let him sit in it for a while to allow him the same opportunity to ponder his existence!

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lol

by SonofMacPhisto @, Monday, April 14, 2014, 05:37 (3875 days ago) @ Avateur

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There was a canyon in h2?

by scarab @, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 06:55 (3877 days ago) @ Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)

My mind has erased that game from my memory. All that is left are moans and sobs leaking from behind a locked door. Best not to open it.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by urk, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 09:46 (3877 days ago) @ Claude Errera

... What does this mean?

Like playable areas are comparable to Reach levels? I don't get it.


It's been said before: the playable area of one planet in Destiny is as large as the entire playable area in Reach.

Miller jumped in below, but I know where this comes from and suppose it's worth clarifying. At some point one of the artists made the rough size comparison for a team meeting to show off just how much stuff we were making at our quality bar. It's exciting, but not really something I'd want to throw out their for public consumption (whoops!) because it's hard to grok. It's fuzzy math.

The spaces are big, and they're designed not just to give you room to roam, but to give you lots of interesting stuff to do. We have a lot of work to do to show them off in the right way this year. That said, I didn't really sink in for me until I just ran around and soaked it all in with my own virtual feets and eyeballs.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Claude Errera @, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 13:52 (3877 days ago) @ urk

It's exciting, but not really something I'd want to throw out their for public consumption (whoops!) because it's hard to grok. It's fuzzy math.

It's okay, you didn't - Diefenbach did. :)

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So, how big are we talking?

by Mr Daax ⌂ @, aka: SSG Daax, Friday, April 11, 2014, 16:35 (3878 days ago) @ Speedracer513

How big is the entirety of Reach's playspace, anyways? I'm having a tough time imagining all the levels in Reach mashed together into one giant level. Does anyone know how it would compare to, say, the exterior world of Skyrim?

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So, how big are we talking?

by uberfoop @, Seattle-ish, Friday, April 11, 2014, 16:56 (3878 days ago) @ Mr Daax

How big is the entirety of Reach's playspace, anyways? I'm having a tough time imagining all the levels in Reach mashed together into one giant level. Does anyone know how it would compare to, say, the exterior world of Skyrim?

Measurements in this respect are always really weird. Like, how do you count things like Reach's space section? If you simply tally up playable surface area, things that feel like huge amounts of content become negligible, and things that feel negligible count as gigantic amounts of playable space.

But clearly, the best standard is "fraction of surface area of Daggerfall."

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, April 11, 2014, 18:55 (3878 days ago) @ Speedracer513

Right. I think we might have heard about that by the Game Informer blowout timeframe. Not sure.

Anyway, any particular reason you happen to speak Portuguese too?

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Speedracer513 @, Dallas, Texas, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 06:18 (3877 days ago) @ ZackDark

Anyway, any particular reason you happen to speak Portuguese too?

I lived in Brazil (more specifically, various areas throughout the state of São Paulo) for two years as a missionary. That was 10 years ago now, but I am fortunate to be using Portuguese in my day job. I am dying to go back!

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Heh. You foreigners are all weird about us =P

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Saturday, April 12, 2014, 11:23 (3877 days ago) @ Speedracer513

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And how about this passage

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, April 11, 2014, 19:02 (3878 days ago) @ Speedracer513

"Os itens de personalização são recompensas que você ganha cada vez que completa uma missão, são bônus que você ganha jogando", explicou Christian. "Às vezes não são modificações, mas novos equipamentos que podem ser utilizados no personagem do jogador, como uma nova armadura ou capacete, ou equipamento que você pode utilizar na sua nave pessoal".

"The customization items are rewards you get every time you complete a mission, bonuses you get by playing", explained Christian. "Sometimes they're not modifications, but new equipments that can be used by the player, like a new armor or helmet, or an equipment you can use on your own personal ship."

Overjoyous emphasis mine.

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And another

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, April 11, 2014, 19:07 (3878 days ago) @ Speedracer513

"Em uma zona social [onde os personagens aparecem em 'terceira pessoa' e os jogadores negociam e recebem missões] você verá vários jogadores com equipamentos completamente diferentes dentro da variação que existe de capacetes, couraças, peças de armadura para pernas, braços[...]"

"In a social area [where characters appear in 3rd person and the players can trade and receive missions] you'll see many players with equipments completely different within the variation of helmets, body armor, leg armor, arm armor that exist[..]"

And another

by rliebherr @, St. Louis, Missouri, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 20:11 (3876 days ago) @ ZackDark

That sounds pretty awesome, but aren't the ships unable to be flown by players? Aren't they just used as, for lack of a better term, fast travel?

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And another

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Saturday, April 12, 2014, 21:33 (3876 days ago) @ rliebherr

Wrong passage? =p

Anyway, the phrasing is a bit ambiguous if the item could be used ON the ship or IN the ship, so that's where my excitement stems from.

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The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Durandal, Friday, April 11, 2014, 19:30 (3878 days ago) @ Speedracer513

Recall that the initial concept of halo you were going to be able to drive around the whole thing. After a certain point they may be able to dynamically load sections of the Destiny map so you could theoretically drive around a whole world. Of course, generating that much content will be crazy, but awesome.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Fuertisimo, Friday, April 11, 2014, 19:40 (3878 days ago) @ Speedracer513

I wonder how many destinations they'll include in total. Right now we know they have, if I'm not mistaken, Mercury, Venus, Earth, The Moon, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter, and Europa. Did I miss any that are more or less confirmed? I wonder how many beyond that there will be. Pluto is an obvious choice, and there are other asteroids/moons that would be solid destinations, such as Phobos. Really if they wanted to there's a bunch of additional locales they could include.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Dmiller, Friday, April 11, 2014, 20:28 (3877 days ago) @ Speedracer513

I would temper your expectations on this quote as it is nebulous in its definition. It's hard to compare our spaces to Reach because our game is an ever-expanding world where one day the world you are discovering may be one size but the next you realize that there are more areas that open up. Our worlds are far more fungable than what you see at first sight. what may be one size day one may be different day 100. Reach was very large in its perception due to levels like New Alexandria which mainly consisted of empty fly-able space, it's hard to compare the two. In short, comparing the two is tricky due to their unique attributes. My advice is to not worry about the size in any game, as size can be deceiving compared to how much enjoyment you get out of a space.

The planets in Destiny are each the same size as Reach

by Dmiller, Friday, April 11, 2014, 20:40 (3877 days ago) @ Dmiller

'Fungible' was the wrong word. 'Deceiving' is a better word.

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So what you're saying is…

by Beorn @, <End of Failed Timeline>, Friday, April 11, 2014, 22:53 (3877 days ago) @ Dmiller

…it's not the size of the space that matters, it's how we use it?

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Now hold on one minute with that wishy-washy language.

by uberfoop @, Seattle-ish, Friday, April 11, 2014, 23:04 (3877 days ago) @ Dmiller

On a scale from Full Tilt! Pinball to EVE Online, how large is Destiny's playable area, in terms of percent progression through a vidmaster run of If I Had a Rocket Launcher I'd Make Somebody Pay?

Surely you can give a straight answer to that.

Now hold on one minute with that wishy-washy language.

by ridum, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 03:50 (3877 days ago) @ uberfoop

Bungie, straight answer, LOL.

Don't count on it …

Now hold on one minute with that wishy-washy language.

by Dmiller, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 07:24 (3877 days ago) @ ridum

How big is Destiny? I don't know. I'm unsure if I've seen it all yet, let alone am able to compare. There are many places you won't be able to go to or see until further progression through activities. Also- this is the Internet, words spoken here tend to become promises and get blown out of proportion.

So what you're saying is...

by Claude Errera @, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 13:59 (3877 days ago) @ Dmiller

How big is Destiny? I don't know. I'm unsure if I've seen it all yet, let alone am able to compare. There are many places you won't be able to go to or see until further progression through activities.

...Destiny is the biggest playspace ever - but it's full of soft barriers?

Also- this is the Internet, words spoken here tend to become promises and get blown out of proportion.

DOH!

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So what you're saying is...

by uberfoop @, Seattle-ish, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 14:16 (3877 days ago) @ Claude Errera

...Destiny is the biggest playspace ever - but it's full of soft barriers?

The soft barriers are rocket launcher flood, hiding behind the rock you're not looking at.

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Pure evil

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Saturday, April 12, 2014, 15:18 (3877 days ago) @ uberfoop

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By the way...

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Saturday, April 12, 2014, 16:27 (3877 days ago) @ uberfoop

Developers, if you're reading this, that is a kind of soft barrier I'm all in for.

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So what you're saying is...

by bluerunner @, Music City, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 16:24 (3877 days ago) @ Claude Errera

...Destiny is the biggest playspace ever - but it's full of soft barriers?

It's the biggest playspace ever, but it's just one really long hallway.

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So what you're saying is...

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 18:02 (3877 days ago) @ bluerunner

...Destiny is the biggest playspace ever - but it's full of soft barriers?


It's the biggest playspace ever, but it's just one really long hallway.

I wonder what the draw limit in Destiny is in World Units? Then we could see how many Marathons could fit into Destiny.

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5D space or bust!

by Beorn @, <End of Failed Timeline>, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 23:35 (3876 days ago) @ Cody Miller

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The real questions we should be asking Bungie:

by uberfoop @, Seattle-ish, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 23:58 (3876 days ago) @ Beorn

Does Destiny have good support for non-Euclidean map geometry?

Will a remake of 5-D Space show up as a Destiny multiplayer map?

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