I'll have to go listen to that and hear what he has to say. I am always most curious about enemies that mirror human adaptability and ingenuity in fiction. The Fallen seem to be that enemy in Destiny.

I've internally speculated that perhaps the Fallen and Humans once worked together before the collapse. Perhaps the Traveler brought the Fallen (and some of the other races?) along from its previous escapes from the Darkness, and while they were originally cooperating in the recent Golden Age of humanity, major rifts were formed during the stand against the Darkness. It may be they are known as the Fallen, because they were once a noble and good race until they made a deal with the Darkness to save themselves. It must have backfired, though, as they fight against the Hive, which appears to be very closely working with the Darkness.

When enemies are just as emotionally driven and complex as humans, both they and the story become so much more interesting. I always loved that the Sangheili teamed up with the humans in Halo.

I can't wait to see what interesting plot developments Destiny has in store for us.

Byf had some interesting thoughts regarding the Fallen in the latest episode of Guardian Radio. They're worth listening to (as is every episode), but the short version (ignoring the Myth connections) is the speculation that the Fallen were once the beneficiaries of the Traveler, as humanity was during its Golden Age.

The speculation is then that the Fallen had their own Golden Age, but the Traveler left them behind, leading to their fall. What was left of the Fallen have followed the Traveler to Earth, presumably to revive their race via regaining access the Traveler.

It's an interesting theory, especially how it parallels what humanity has gone through in Destiny. It fits what we know of the Fallen and explains their motivations.

Dunno about all that. I guess that would be cool, and would really help to explain why they're called the Fallen. It's nice when your enemies have a big story and universe they've lived in as well, and aren't just there for us to kill because they're bad and/or because they want us dead for seemingly no apparent reason.

Also find it weird how hardly anyone replies to awesome speculation topics, but nuanced game feature/marketing threads blow up. lol

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