Destiny is rated T for Teen (Destiny)
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:01 (3806 days ago)
edited by Ragashingo, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:10
Was anyone here ever affected by Halo's M rating? I never was and I certainly started playing it a bit before I "should have." Destiny's T rating amuses me though, since I now have a piece of fan fiction higher rated than the game it's based on. :)
See, Cody?
by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:45 (3806 days ago) @ Ragashingo
edited by ZackDark, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:01
"No gambling". No random loot in exchange for investment. Your apprehensions are finally put to rest. :p
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by bluerunner , Music City, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:48 (3806 days ago) @ Ragashingo
Was anyone here ever affected by Halo's M rating? I never was and I certainly started playing it a bit before I "should have." Destiny's T rating amuses me though, since I now have a piece of fan fiction higher rated than the game it's based on. :)
I always thought M was a little high for Halo. Other than the kinda gross flood, they didn't really do much on gore, and there wasn't much profanity to speak of (Xbox live is another thing). I've kinda viewed Halo on the same level as Star Wars. Both bluelings have been playing Halo from an early age and they're both...well, they might not be the best example.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Claude Errera , Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:53 (3806 days ago) @ bluerunner
Was anyone here ever affected by Halo's M rating? I never was and I certainly started playing it a bit before I "should have." Destiny's T rating amuses me though, since I now have a piece of fan fiction higher rated than the game it's based on. :)
I always thought M was a little high for Halo. Other than the kinda gross flood, they didn't really do much on gore, and there wasn't much profanity to speak of (Xbox live is another thing). I've kinda viewed Halo on the same level as Star Wars. Both bluelings have been playing Halo from an early age and they're both...well, they might not be the best example.
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Yapok , Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:55 (3806 days ago) @ Claude Errera
huh, i never would have guessed it was because of the flood. That is really interesting.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by bluerunner , Music City, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:56 (3806 days ago) @ Yapok
huh, i never would have guessed it was because of the flood. That is really interesting.
Then why are ODST, Reach, and Halo 4 rated M? No flood in those.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Yapok , Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:00 (3806 days ago) @ bluerunner
huh, i never would have guessed it was because of the flood. That is really interesting.
Then why are ODST, Reach, and Halo 4 rated M? No flood in those.
good point.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by uberfoop , Seattle-ish, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:00 (3806 days ago) @ bluerunner
huh, i never would have guessed it was because of the flood. That is really interesting.
Then why are ODST
Marty's dancing.
Reach
You can see Halo 1 in the distance during the credits.
Halo 4
Composer.
pffft
by Yapok , Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:01 (3806 days ago) @ uberfoop
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Destiny is rated T for Teen
by bluerunner , Music City, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:02 (3806 days ago) @ uberfoop
huh, i never would have guessed it was because of the flood. That is really interesting.
Then why are ODST
Marty's dancing.
Reach
You can see Halo 1 in the distance during the credits.
Halo 4
Composer.
Thank you Super Fooper, good stuff.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Claude Errera , Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:00 (3806 days ago) @ bluerunner
huh, i never would have guessed it was because of the flood. That is really interesting.
Then why are ODST, Reach, and Halo 4 rated M? No flood in those.
Good question. No clue. (Never asked.)
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by KP , Redmond, Saturday, June 28, 2014, 11:40 (3804 days ago) @ Claude Errera
I recall an old HBO discussion over an some bit of news that revealed that Halo CE was given an M rating due to the player's ability to shoot and batter helpless marines to death with realist human blood splatter. This is true in all Halo games so that could explain why they'd all be rated M at a minimum.
Just an old tidbit I remember, but information could've emerged later to invalidate it. Or I might be off my rocker.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Yapok , Saturday, June 28, 2014, 11:58 (3804 days ago) @ KP
seems legit to me.
Would make sense.
by UnrealCh13f , San Luis Obispo, CA, Saturday, June 28, 2014, 14:07 (3804 days ago) @ KP
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Destiny is rated T for Teen
by ferrex, Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 00:15 (3801 days ago) @ KP
It was the dismembering of flood that got us the M. We removed the blood splatter (from everything) because hitting T was important back then, since some chains (like Walmart) wouldn't carry an M rated game.
After the ESRB saw a human combat form having bits blown off of it, it was "remove the flood or get an M". So we took the M and put all the blood splatter back in because screw you guys.
As for ODST and Reach, it didn't matter by that point, so I don't think any effort was made for T.
Thanks for that.
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 04:39 (3801 days ago) @ ferrex
I can't help but wonder about future games, and whether there will be a perceived need to maintain a teen rating.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by kanbo , Seattle, WA, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:02 (3806 days ago) @ bluerunner
If you look on the ESRB website, it has detailed descriptions for most of the games. It looks like the decided factor is probably the blood effects and vocal feedback when characters are shot.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=29447&Title=Halo%3A%20Reach
"Characters are occasionally impaled on glowing swords, and aliens can be seen stabbing fallen figures during some battle sequences. Gun fights are highlighted by realistic gunfire sound effects, explosions, and screams of pain. Human and alien characters emit spurts of blood when injured; players are able to shoot dead enemies, causing more blood to splash out. Blood is sometimes depicted on the walls and ground."
From what I can remember, there isn't much/any blood or cries of pain in Destiny.
"Characters are occasionally impaled on glowing swords."
by uberfoop , Seattle-ish, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:05 (3806 days ago) @ kanbo
Clearly, non-glowing swords would merely have earned a 'T' rating.
"Characters are occasionally impaled on glowing swords."
by bluerunner , Music City, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:10 (3806 days ago) @ uberfoop
Shooting characters: ok
Stabbing characters: ok
Throwing knives into characters: ok
Running over characters: ok
Blowing up characters with grenades: ok
Glowing swords: THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
Then again, plastic lightsaber battles at my house do tend to get out of hand.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 16:57 (3806 days ago) @ Claude Errera
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
And for Reach?
Canon issues.
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:09 (3806 days ago) @ Cody Miller
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Destiny is rated T for Teen
by kidtsunami , Atlanta, GA, Friday, June 27, 2014, 01:46 (3806 days ago) @ Cody Miller
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
And for Reach?
Wasn't there some comment about torture along with some blood trails?
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by narcogen , Andover, Massachusetts, Friday, June 27, 2014, 02:48 (3806 days ago) @ Cody Miller
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
And for Reach?
Probably just inertia. Once a series gets classified, I'm guessing things don't get changed unless there's seen to be a fundamental shift in the series itself.
I sort of doubt the ratings body is bothering to ensure people are blind about that sort of thing-- not knowing who makes a game or what previous entries in the series are rated-- which, strictly speaking, they probably should be.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by RC , UK, Friday, June 27, 2014, 04:25 (3806 days ago) @ narcogen
edited by RC, Friday, June 27, 2014, 04:30
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
And for Reach?
Probably just inertia. Once a series gets classified, I'm guessing things don't get changed unless there's seen to be a fundamental shift in the series itself.I sort of doubt the ratings body is bothering to ensure people are blind about that sort of thing-- not knowing who makes a game or what previous entries in the series are rated-- which, strictly speaking, they probably should be.
Really though? If I'm 13, I get Halo: ODST because it's only 'T' and I like it, am I not going to want to play the other Halos? But if following the ESRB guidelines I'd have to wait another 4 years!
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by narcogen , Andover, Massachusetts, Saturday, July 05, 2014, 21:33 (3797 days ago) @ RC
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
And for Reach?
Probably just inertia. Once a series gets classified, I'm guessing things don't get changed unless there's seen to be a fundamental shift in the series itself.I sort of doubt the ratings body is bothering to ensure people are blind about that sort of thing-- not knowing who makes a game or what previous entries in the series are rated-- which, strictly speaking, they probably should be.
Really though? If I'm 13, I get Halo: ODST because it's only 'T' and I like it, am I not going to want to play the other Halos? But if following the ESRB guidelines I'd have to wait another 4 years!
I'm not saying there's not a good reason for there to be that kind of continuity.
I am saying that the shoestring way the ESRB operates, there is no guarantee there will be any. The reviewers who see a sequel publsihed ten years after the original will not be the same ones who reviewed the original, and operating the way they do, they don't have the resources to make reviewers look at older games as well as newer ones-- they barely have the resources to complete modern games and see all the content as it is, to say nothing of the challenges of reviewing sandbox games.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by narcogen , Andover, Massachusetts, Friday, June 27, 2014, 02:46 (3806 days ago) @ Claude Errera
I always thought M was a little high for Halo. Other than the kinda gross flood, they didn't really do much on gore, and there wasn't much profanity to speak of (Xbox live is another thing). I've kinda viewed Halo on the same level as Star Wars. Both bluelings have been playing Halo from an early age and they're both...well, they might not be the best example.
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
Never really understood that.
Flood don't even bleed red, most of them aren't even human, and later in the series, aren't even humanoid anymore. (Red blood seems to have been an issue for previous games in markets sensitive to violence.)
The fluctuations over time in what constitutes M or T seem to be quite large.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by RC , UK, Friday, June 27, 2014, 05:16 (3806 days ago) @ narcogen
I always thought M was a little high for Halo. Other than the kinda gross flood, they didn't really do much on gore, and there wasn't much profanity to speak of (Xbox live is another thing). I've kinda viewed Halo on the same level as Star Wars. Both bluelings have been playing Halo from an early age and they're both...well, they might not be the best example.
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
Never really understood that.Flood don't even bleed red, most of them aren't even human, and later in the series, aren't even humanoid anymore. (Red blood seems to have been an issue for previous games in markets sensitive to violence.)
Yeah, but some of them are human. Deformed. Limbs and even heads are able to be blown off by players pre- and postmortem. The green-grey 'blood' evokes rotting and disease in animals.
The fluctuations over time in what constitutes M or T seem to be quite large.
Not that age scales are that great to begin with but the ESRB scale is messed up: 10, 13.... 17, 18 - wtf?
PEGI (Europe) is 7, 12, 16, 18 and BBFC (UK) is PG, 12, 15, 18.
Halo was always rated 16 by PEGI and 15 by BBFC. Both boards actually use their 18+ category. Whereas AO in ESRB is basically a death-sentence since no stores will carry AO games.
As another point of comparison, Gears of War got 18 classification in PEGI and BBFC, but M(17+) in ESRB. Only because that's the highest ESRB can give it without effectively banning it.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by urk, Friday, June 27, 2014, 08:53 (3805 days ago) @ Claude Errera
Was anyone here ever affected by Halo's M rating? I never was and I certainly started playing it a bit before I "should have." Destiny's T rating amuses me though, since I now have a piece of fan fiction higher rated than the game it's based on. :)
I always thought M was a little high for Halo. Other than the kinda gross flood, they didn't really do much on gore, and there wasn't much profanity to speak of (Xbox live is another thing). I've kinda viewed Halo on the same level as Star Wars. Both bluelings have been playing Halo from an early age and they're both...well, they might not be the best example.
It was the Flood that earned Halo that M.
It was actually the political climate, post 9/11, I believe. You can still find images of the Halo: CE box art with a T-rating out there in the wild. Or on Google.
Hmmm... Today I Learned...
by UnrealCh13f , San Luis Obispo, CA, Saturday, June 28, 2014, 14:09 (3804 days ago) @ urk
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Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 17:50 (3806 days ago) @ Ragashingo
Was anyone here ever affected by Halo's M rating?
Chortle. Yeah, they told me that it was rated Mature, so I shouldn't let me my kids play it.
I'm actually slightly disappointed with the news. I kind of wanted a story that wasn't afraid to go to dark places, but speaking of dark places, I had just as much anxiety roaming the abandoned buildings in the alpha as I ever felt facing the flood, including the first time.
But ratings are weird.
BTW, I do consider Reach and even ODST more adult games than the original Halo. Can't say why exactly.
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 18:03 (3806 days ago) @ Kermit
Reach had Kat's death. ODST had... Sadie's Story?
Destiny is rated T for Teen
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Thursday, June 26, 2014, 19:11 (3806 days ago) @ Ragashingo
Reach had Kat's death. ODST had... Sadie's Story?
Yeah, and see, I loved that. I know they're going for that original Star Wars vibe, which is awesome. After seeing what games can do over the past several years, though, I was kind of hoping for more mature fare.
Then again, the original Star Wars vibe … YES.
I'm really excited about this
by kidtsunami , Atlanta, GA, Friday, June 27, 2014, 01:48 (3806 days ago) @ Ragashingo
Would love to play with my niece and nephew but don't want to show a disregard for the rating since I believe in parents paying attention to them.
This explains the lack of assassinations...
by Korny , Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Saturday, June 28, 2014, 00:16 (3805 days ago) @ Ragashingo
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