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The Last Word is wrong. (Destiny)

by bluerunner @, Music City, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 13:10 (3930 days ago)

Not wrong in the fun department. It is absolutely my favorite weapon in Destiny, and now that I have it almost fully upgraded, it is devastating in close to mid range.

To explain what's wrong, I'm going to define a couple of firearm terms, single action and double action. 99.9% of revolvers operate on one of these two actions.
- Single action: The hammer is manually cocked with your thumb. Cocking the hammer advances the cylinder to the next round. When you pull the trigger, it releases the hammer, which fires the round. To fire the next shot, you need to manually cock the hammer again. "Single action" refers to the trigger pull only performing one action: releasing the trigger.
- Double action: Pulling the trigger cocks the hammer, which advances the cylinder, and then releases the hammer at the end of the trigger pull. "Double action" refers to the trigger pull performing two actions: Cocking the hammer and releasing it. The hammer can be manually cocked with your thumb, but a trigger pull is still required to fire the gun.

The Last Word's signiture firing mode is fan fire. "Fanning" is an old trick shooting technique where one hand holds the trigger while the other hand slaps the hammer repeatedly. You see this in a lot in westerns where they're shooting something like a Colt Dragoon or Single Action Army. In the game I just hold down the trigger and it keeps firing until it is empty.

Fan firing can only be performed on single action revolvers.

You may have noticed on all other handcannons that if you pull the trigger slightly back you can see the hammer coming back and the cylinder rotating. That is a really great detail Bungie added. And it is correct because the hand cannons are double action.

Here's the problem: The Last Word is also double action. When I pull the trigger the hammer comes back. At the very end of the pull my left hand comes on screen and slaps the hammer. You can not fan fire a double action. It requires a trigger pull each time to fire.

So anyway, 0/10, preorder cancelled, all that jazz. :P

Space Magic™?

by Fantom ⌂, Chicago, Illinois, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 13:31 (3930 days ago) @ bluerunner

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The Last Word is wrong.

by stabbim @, Des Moines, IA, USA, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 13:52 (3930 days ago) @ bluerunner

Maybe the gun is a perfectly normal double-action revolver, and your character is just slapping the hammer unnecessarily because he's an idiot.

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I bet that's it! :)

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 13:59 (3930 days ago) @ stabbim

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Idiot? Or stylish?

by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 16:35 (3930 days ago) @ stabbim

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Let's not go pulling threads on this sweater...

by Penthesilean, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 16:16 (3930 days ago) @ bluerunner

...and just enjoy how plush it is.

The boniest finger from an old Irish crone could poke away at you all day, and you wouldn't feel a thing.

Woah-ah-woah-ah-woah

by Pyromancy @, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 16:58 (3930 days ago) @ Penthesilean

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The Last Word is wrong.

by Kahzgul, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 18:34 (3930 days ago) @ bluerunner

It's possible that when the trigger is held all the way down it sets the weapon to single-action mode.

Speaking of wrong things: Ever notice how much the chamber rotates with each shot? I have to different hand cannons... One has 11 rounds in the cylinder and one has 7. They both rotate the same amount when the trigger is pulled.

Space magic, man. Space magic.

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The Last Word is wrong.

by Durandal, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 18:38 (3930 days ago) @ Kahzgul

Considering you only ever put one "shell" in the chamber, I don't think the gun works how normal revolvers work.

"I won’t waste my time trying to explain the loading mechanism to you -- your primitive mind could never grasp its complex nature."

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The Last Word is wrong.

by Kahzgul, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 18:41 (3930 days ago) @ Durandal

I mean, it's some kind of glimmer tube, right?

That's what glimmer is... a substitute for money because it can be turned into anything, right?

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The Last Word is wrong.

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 19:04 (3930 days ago) @ Kahzgul

Eh. I'm no gun expert, but I believe they make quick loading slot thingies for revolvers that have the bullets lined up in the correct spacing so you just mash them in instead of loading each one by hand. I figured that's what we were doing...

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These?

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 19:12 (3930 days ago) @ Ragashingo

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Yes!

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 19:17 (3930 days ago) @ ZackDark

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Yes!

by bluerunner @, Music City, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 19:46 (3930 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Speed loaders. If you've ever tried to reload a revolver in a hurry you'll see how much they help.

I want one of these for my Invective.

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D'oh

by bluerunner @, Music City, Wednesday, October 15, 2014, 07:00 (3929 days ago) @ bluerunner

"Single action" refers to the trigger pull only performing one action: releasing the trigger.

That should read: Single action refers to the trigger pull only performing one action: releasing the hammer. I should proof read more.

That's why fanning works on single action. You're holding the trigger down and the hammer will drop every time you slap it back.

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D'oh

by SonofMacPhisto @, Wednesday, October 15, 2014, 09:29 (3929 days ago) @ bluerunner

"Single action" refers to the trigger pull only performing one action: releasing the trigger.


That should read: Single action refers to the trigger pull only performing one action: releasing the hammer. I should proof read more.

That's why fanning works on single action. You're holding the trigger down and the hammer will drop every time you slap it back.

0/10 would not blue again

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