If you are still up for it, I'll be around.

It'd be more like the 8:45 though.

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I think I got the gist of it. We should always have an Oracle-killing duo inside the time-stream to wipe them out. That means we should have another duo capable of keeping Supplicants out of the way, since maybe we'll need the third to go inside and take the Relic in case it gets dropped.

Having both Oracles and a dropped Relic being able to wipe us in no time makes it really stressful.

We were expecting the Relic-holder to kill the minions, but it is far better to have the Oracle-killers to simply bomb them ASAP and then move on to the Oracles. We should also work on communication to kill the Oracles in the same order as they appear, lest we leave one for last and it manages to wrap up its wipe-magic.

One thing I noticed was killing us a lot was "Curse of the Aegis". When I researched, turns out you can simply leave the Relic on the ground. You have to pick it up or it will wipe us.

Not gonna lie--I'm still super pissed at how fucking unfair the 4th segment was. I mean, I respect that the random teleportation forces fireteams to change strategies on the fly, but the corners of time are fucking INSANE! I don't care if Cody got it perfect, it's just impossible! There's a good million oracles that spawn in that Venus jungle/Mars desert. Sometimes, even 4 or 5 at once. And if you miss a single one of them, everybody dies! And THEN the goddamn minotaurs and fucking Hobgoblins--even the Relic's right trigger smash attack doesn't even hurt! It's like Angry and Lightswitch are on--and if ANYONE in the wilderness dies, the whole damn thing falls apart--someone has to go inside, they get killed instantly, and it's over.

I felt exactly the same way the very first time I ran the raid. It was INSANE. How are we going to beat this?! (I even had that same moment where we stared at all the oracles in the portals and shook our heads. They spawn so fast!) However instead of wanting to give up, it made me push harder to figure it out.

You will get he hang of it eventually. I suggest working out the strategies on your own as you play with a fireteam, but I can offer tips if you want.

Here is a big pro tip that helped when I was helping a friend and his group through the hard mode raid last night. They were all relatively underleveled and undergeared. If you can't kill all the oracles, and you think you'll succumb to them, just have everybody run out the portal! You won't get time's vengeance, but you also won't all die. Wait for the next teleport cycle, and try again.

Does this work for everyone or did I completely misunderstand people's timezones and availability?

I know chaos can't pull that time tonight. There might be some people looking to help out though, since the other handholding raid is going for it tonight. Maybe check with bluerunner/ragashingo?

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I'm hoping we can start off on my host, since we're almost there, anyway. If necessary, we can merge with the other one and make two raiding parties. Hell, we can even help each other out on the first leg! TWELVE guardians working the spire? Dude...

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Sign on. We'll chase those coins.

Do you by any chance have another character that's working through the story and coming up on the Venus portion? One of those Venus missions (I believe it's the one were you go into that big fallen ship to hunt Draxis) is the only other guaranteed strange coin in the game that I'm aware of (but you only get it once per character when you finish that mission). Other than that, the best method - by far - to reliably get strange coins is to run strikes in the Tiger playlist until one of the blue engrams you get awarded decrypts to a coin.

Daily Heroic and a couple of other Heroic Bounties. Finally nailed it.

So I got Light/Beware, Pocket Infinity and Plan C. Now let's see me get killed in one shot!

(evil laughter)