I watched the archive of the stream for the Dads of Destiny Crota raid, and at about 54 minutes when they are running to the bottom middle room for ogres (which is itself amusing, given the raid designer is playing with them!), one of the dads asks if there are more chests in VoG.

The answer was simply "Yes". I could not tell if Urk was being coy and messing with people, or if that was genuine.

Thanks for posting this. That stuck out to me too and I wanted to bring it up on here but forgot to.

I would like to listen to it again to see what I can glean from his inflection in response to that question. My impression was that there's more to find in the VoG.

My bet is that there is a chest somewhere in the final room. There has to be a reason they display the number of Time's Vengeance events on the stat screen.

One theory I have is that the chest appears during the actual battle, perhaps on a specific Time's Vengeance event.

Has anyone ever stuck around in a timestream during Time's Vengeance to look for one?

My bet is that there is a chest somewhere in the final room. There has to be a reason they display the number of Time's Vengeance events on the stat screen.

One theory I have is that the chest appears during the actual battle, perhaps on a specific Time's Vengeance event.

I haven't played VoG in a while, and even then we did it as fast as possible, so remind me; does something like "enrage" happen after a certain number of Time's Vengeance's or Teleports?

What if you had to endure a certain Bungie-related number (7?) before it appears? That would certainly be a difficult and specific task.

My bet is that there is a chest somewhere in the final room. There has to be a reason they display the number of Time's Vengeance events on the stat screen.

One theory I have is that the chest appears during the actual battle, perhaps on a specific Time's Vengeance event.

I haven't played VoG in a while, and even then we did it as fast as possible, so remind me; does something like "enrage" happen after a certain number of Time's Vengeance's or Teleports?

What if you had to endure a certain Bungie-related number (7?) before it appears? That would certainly be a difficult and specific task.

Atheon does "enrage" after a certain point, and Supplicants start spawning EVERYWHERE. You're right though, we've become too proficient at that fight to stick around that long.

Anyone want to schedule a VOG Firefight session?

There probably is something at the end like you mention. You can explore that room pretty far... you would think SOMETHING would be there.

I'm still betting on the Jump Puzzle myself. That's the last "section" of the raid where there feels like there should be something. (You know, the vex gate portal thing off in the distance)

Or what about that area before the templar, where the ground sometimes shakes or you can hear rumbling in the distance? Maybe it's just the gate shutting behind you....maybe something else?

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My bet is that there is a chest somewhere in the final room. There has to be a reason they display the number of Time's Vengeance events on the stat screen.

One theory I have is that the chest appears during the actual battle, perhaps on a specific Time's Vengeance event.

I haven't played VoG in a while, and even then we did it as fast as possible, so remind me; does something like "enrage" happen after a certain number of Time's Vengeance's or Teleports?

What if you had to endure a certain Bungie-related number (7?) before it appears? That would certainly be a difficult and specific task.

Atheon does "enrage" after a certain point, and Supplicants start spawning EVERYWHERE. You're right though, we've become too proficient at that fight to stick around that long.

Anyone want to schedule a VOG Firefight session?

I've got a normal run scheduled for tonight. We could try then.

Is it possible to open the door & get out after Atheon is dealt with?

The door "locks" once the Atheon encounter begins. Not sure what happens if someone is outside in the corridor at the time, but I would imagine they get locked-out.

Might be interesting to see what happens if the whole team gets out before Atheon…

Urk posted to Reddit to clarify. He just misheard the question.

Still doesn't rule out the existence of another chest or two, we just don't have the confirmation that we thought we had.

-Disciple

I believe that people have found that they can open the door by popping their ghost next to it. I doubt Bungie intended that to be the way to get to a chest though.

Nothing that nefarious. We misheard the next question as "sword glitch" instead of "sword bridge." Lots of people talking, music going, etc.

Through all of that, my brain turned the question into something along the lines of, "Is there a reason to return to the Vault of Glass?"

The question he says he heard still seems to indicate that there are more secrets in the VOG.

Oh yeah, there's GOT to be more stuff hidden in there. Most of the groups I run with just want to get through everything quickly, but I would love to just spend a few hours exploring everything sometime.

-Disciple

I'm still betting on the Jump Puzzle myself. That's the last "section" of the raid where there feels like there should be something. (You know, the vex gate portal thing off in the distance)

It always struck me as odd that there was a whole separate set of platforms that would get you to the end.

I'm still betting on the Jump Puzzle myself. That's the last "section" of the raid where there feels like there should be something. (You know, the vex gate portal thing off in the distance)

It always struck me as odd that there was a whole separate set of platforms that would get you to the end.

Maybe there's another exit from the gorgon's maze?

I believe that people have found that they can open the door by popping their ghost next to it. I doubt Bungie intended that to be the way to get to a chest though.

nope, once Atheon spawns, you cannot open the door. while dealing with the gatekeeper, it will open again just by standing near it.

we've had people stay out in the jump puzzle to watch the broken gate while the rest tackled atheon, nothing ever happened.

we've also explored both time gates after atheon's death and haven't been able to find anything before going blind.

There is a hidden room in the jump puzzle way down below the ledge to the second puzzle. (the drop down after that left hand tunnel that leads to the second jump puzzle). if there were going to be a chest anywhere, i would guess there or the broken gate.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2vmhwj/unless_i_misheard_them_this_could_be_pretty_cool/coja9a3

Looks like he misunderstood or misheard the question. We've been there before…, and look how THAT turned out :-p

I'm still betting on the Jump Puzzle myself. That's the last "section" of the raid where there feels like there should be something. (You know, the vex gate portal thing off in the distance)

It always struck me as odd that there was a whole separate set of platforms that would get you to the end.

Maybe there's another exit from the gorgon's maze?

Oooooohhh... Who wants to explore the maze tonight? Might be kinda fun :)

My bet is that there is a chest somewhere in the final room. There has to be a reason they display the number of Time's Vengeance events on the stat screen.

One theory I have is that the chest appears during the actual battle, perhaps on a specific Time's Vengeance event.

I always figured there was a reason we were allowed to explore the Vault of Glass for that long.

Do you have to manually go to orbit after defeating Crota as well? I haven't take him down myself but that might indicate that there isn't a secret after beating Aethon or Crota... then again maybe it means there is a secret after both of them!

Do you have to manually go to orbit after defeating Crota as well? I haven't take him down myself but that might indicate that there isn't a secret after beating Aethon or Crota... then again maybe it means there is a secret after both of them!

I doubt it. If one of your party is dead/dies after when the "misson complete" banner is displayed, they can't be revived... Which would mean they wouldn't be able to get any chests. And given how Bungie put in some effort to avoid players getting cheated out of loot (Raid Loot Chests never despawn, unlike regular patrol chests), I think they would try to avoid this happening.

Every time we (always a different group) beat him, a couple of the regulars I play with insist on staying until the timer eventually kicks us out to a reward screen and then to orbit. It takes about 5 minutes or so, I'd vaguely guess. They do it for tea-leaf reasons, believing that manually leaving may prevent a late-spawning exotic or something from being rewarded.

I've never seen us get kicked to a reward screen and orbit on VoG, no matter how long we waited.

I've never seen us get kicked to a reward screen and orbit on VoG, no matter how long we waited.

Happened to me 2 days ago. Took about 4 minutes.

I'm still betting on the Jump Puzzle myself. That's the last "section" of the raid where there feels like there should be something. (You know, the vex gate portal thing off in the distance)

It always struck me as odd that there was a whole separate set of platforms that would get you to the end.

I did ask a Bungie employee about that recently and was told that they were for something else removed from the game and were not hiding any chests.

That could be wrong or inaccurate, I have no idea, but I did ask :)

It never happened to us.

We took for eh-eh-eh-vor crawling all over that place, because we assumed each time that not getting sent to orbit could only mean that we were missing something.

Maybe we just landed a glitch each time.

I'm still betting on the Jump Puzzle myself. That's the last "section" of the raid where there feels like there should be something. (You know, the vex gate portal thing off in the distance)

It always struck me as odd that there was a whole separate set of platforms that would get you to the end.

I did ask a Bungie employee about that recently and was told that they were for something else removed from the game and were not hiding any chests.

That could be wrong or inaccurate, I have no idea, but I did ask :)

Ahah man that's a big spoiler right there for secret hunters :-)

I seem to remember that it used to not send you to Orbit automatically, but that changed with one of the major updates last year. Now there's a 5-10 minute timer just like with Crota.

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