I ran Atheon HM CP just now and got screwed.. After about an hour of explaining and attempts we finally got him. And it drops.... an ICEBREAKER!!!!!!!!
Right after I just bought 2 this past week. Talk about discouragement.

Heh. I feel your pain!
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 18:11 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
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RNG can go die
by Morpheus , High Charity, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 18:19 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
That's why you only buy one. After purchasing an Exotic from Xur, you seriously have up to 55% chance of earning another one from a qualifying roll. It's happened to me countless times.

RNG can go die
by stabbim , Des Moines, IA, USA, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 18:32 (3788 days ago) @ Morpheus
Nah, you go ahead and buy all you want from him. Just don't buy the accompanying exotic shards for the last-tier upgrade. You can dismantle your dropped Icebreakers to get those. ;)

There You Go.
by Morpheus , High Charity, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 18:43 (3788 days ago) @ stabbim
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You think that's bad?
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 20:51 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
7 ascendant energy from a nightfall.
……………wow.
I got a sick roll on the dead orbit scout rifle for the followup, but still…
You think that's bad?
by Claude Errera , Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 20:56 (3788 days ago) @ Cody Miller
7 ascendant energy from a nightfall.
……………wow.
I got a sick roll on the dead orbit scout rifle for the followup, but still…
I got 9 shards.
While nico (who thought he was gonna get nothing because he was dead for the last 10 minutes of the run, and was un-revivable after it ended) picked up a Gjallarhorn. :)

You think that's bad?
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 20:58 (3788 days ago) @ Claude Errera
7 ascendant energy from a nightfall.
……………wow.
I got a sick roll on the dead orbit scout rifle for the followup, but still…
I got 9 shards.While nico (who thought he was gonna get nothing because he was dead for the last 10 minutes of the run, and was un-revivable after it ended) picked up a Gjallarhorn. :)
When are you coming back to playstation, and not having a life so you can actually play?
You think that's bad?
by Claude Errera , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 10:01 (3788 days ago) @ Cody Miller
7 ascendant energy from a nightfall.
……………wow.
I got a sick roll on the dead orbit scout rifle for the followup, but still…
I got 9 shards.While nico (who thought he was gonna get nothing because he was dead for the last 10 minutes of the run, and was un-revivable after it ended) picked up a Gjallarhorn. :)
When are you coming back to playstation, and not having a life so you can actually play?
lol - I've thought about it recently, but I'd have to ramp up the character from pretty close to scratch - seems hard. :(

You think that's bad?
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 18:14 (3786 days ago) @ Claude Errera
lol - I've thought about it recently, but I'd have to ramp up the character from pretty close to scratch - seems hard. :(
Not when you have the Legendary PS4 DBO crew to do nightfalls, raids, etc with!

*eye twitch*
by Beorn , <End of Failed Timeline>, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 21:11 (3788 days ago) @ Claude Errera
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You think that's bad?
by Morpheus , High Charity, Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 21:28 (3788 days ago) @ Claude Errera
7 ascendant energy from a nightfall.
……………wow.
I got a sick roll on the dead orbit scout rifle for the followup, but still…
I got 9 shards.While nico (who thought he was gonna get nothing because he was dead for the last 10 minutes of the run, and was un-revivable after it ended) picked up a Gjallarhorn. :)
For some sad reason, it's almost always the guy with the least kills, or the guy who JUST joins, or the guy who messes up the most, or in some cases the guy who does nothing...and reaps the biggest rewards.
*Despairs*
by yakaman, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:31 (3788 days ago) @ Claude Errera
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._.
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:40 (3788 days ago) @ Claude Errera
While nico (who thought he was gonna get nothing because he was dead for the last 10 minutes of the run, and was un-revivable after it ended) picked up a Gjallarhorn. :)

If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by SonofMacPhisto , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:12 (3788 days ago) @ Claude Errera
...I'll have to choose between it, and Hard Light. That's gonna be like the day someone pays Jayne enough to betray Mal. Interesting.

If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:15 (3788 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto
...I'll have to choose between it, and Hard Light. That's gonna be like the day someone pays Jayne enough to betray Mal. Interesting.
I love you, man.
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If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by TheeChaos , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:24 (3788 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto
They should introduce Double exotic weekends or something. Where you can equip 2 exotic weapons!

This is what I wanted Iron Banner to be
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:25 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
They should introduce Double exotic weekends or something. Where you can equip 2 exotic weapons!
No limits. All the exotics you want. Go at it.

This is what I wanted Iron Banner to be
by SonofMacPhisto , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:32 (3788 days ago) @ iconicbanana
They should introduce Double exotic weekends or something. Where you can equip 2 exotic weapons!
No limits. All the exotics you want. Go at it.
The Helm, No Backups, Arma, Hard Light, Invective, Truth.
omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
This is what I wanted Iron Banner to be
by TheeChaos , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:35 (3788 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto
It would encourage people to lvl up alternate exotics, and if it worked in Raids (probably not) it would allow people that are at a wall to actually complete Crota on Hard. Just an idea.

We'll call the new playlist "Golden Showers"....wait.
by Revenant1988
, How do I forum?, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:45 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
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This is what I wanted Iron Banner to be
by Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)
, London, Ontario, Canada, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:34 (3788 days ago) @ iconicbanana
They should introduce Double exotic weekends or something. Where you can equip 2 exotic weapons!
No limits. All the exotics you want. Go at it.
I have Suros Regime, Invective, and Truth; kinda quailing at the idea of meeting others clanking around the Crucible with similar arsenals.
-- Steve sharded his Crest of Alpha Lupi, though, 'cause he's not using hand cannons for that character's build and there's no way he's giving up Knucklehead Radar.

What my loadout would be if we could equip all exotics
by BeardFade , Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 10:56 (3788 days ago) @ iconicbanana
My hunter would have:
Thorn,
Pocket Infinity or Patience & Time, if shotgun necessary, still running Found Verdict, much better than Invective
Gjallarhorn
w/
Knucklehead Radar
Don't Touch Me's
Lucky Raspberry
Radiant Dance Machines
That would be pretty awesome. Plus, i just want to see what my character would look like with all of them on at once.
What would y'all's loadouts be?

Them's fighting words.
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 10:59 (3788 days ago) @ BeardFade
still running Found Verdict, much better than Invective
They are coming for you.

Them's fighting words.
by BeardFade , Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 11:14 (3788 days ago) @ iconicbanana
Rate of fire (too fast actually), horrible recoil (stare at the ceiling bad), and low clip size make it tougher to handle than Found Verdict which also fires in auto (not that I ever use it that way). I don't know how many times I've accidentally fired two shots with Invective to then die because now I'm looking straight up in the air and am SOL.

Them's fighting words.
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 11:31 (3788 days ago) @ BeardFade
Rate of fire (too fast actually), horrible recoil (stare at the ceiling bad), and low clip size make it tougher to handle than Found Verdict which also fires in auto (not that I ever use it that way). I don't know how many times I've accidentally fired two shots with Invective to then die because now I'm looking straight up in the air and am SOL.
I'm partly with you on this, I just know there are some invective lovers around here who feel a bit differently about it. I could never really get behind Found Verdict, something about the auto fire. Maybe just not fast enough? I have a really wicked legendary shotty with full auto and shot package that probably colors my opinion of FV a little.

Them's fighting words.
by SonofMacPhisto , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 11:49 (3788 days ago) @ iconicbanana
Rate of fire (too fast actually), horrible recoil (stare at the ceiling bad), and low clip size make it tougher to handle than Found Verdict which also fires in auto (not that I ever use it that way). I don't know how many times I've accidentally fired two shots with Invective to then die because now I'm looking straight up in the air and am SOL.
I'm partly with you on this, I just know there are some invective lovers around here who feel a bit differently about it. I could never really get behind Found Verdict, something about the auto fire. Maybe just not fast enough? I have a really wicked legendary shotty with full auto and shot package that probably colors my opinion of FV a little.
Two to the Morgue with full auto.
*drops mic*
*walks off stage*

What my loadout would be if we could equip all exotics
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 11:36 (3788 days ago) @ BeardFade
What would y'all's loadouts be?
Hawkmoon, Plan C, and either thunderlord or Truth depending
Knucklehead radar, radiant dance machines, don't touch me, and lucky raspberry (for grenade energy on spawn).

What my loadout would be if we could equip all exotics
by SonofMacPhisto , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 11:50 (3788 days ago) @ BeardFade
My Defender build is earlier on, but Striker?
Skullfort, Crest of Alpha, Ruin Wings, those boots whatever they are called, Hard light, Invective, Truth.
I am become death, destroyer of worlds.

What my loadout would be if we could equip all exotics
by dogcow , Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 12:17 (3788 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto
Defender Titan
Armor: Glass House, No Backup Plans, Armamentarium.
Weapons: Hawkmoon (maybe Thorn or the Mythoclast), Truth.
Is Invective any good? I got it recently, but haven't played with it.

What my loadout would be if we could equip all exotics*
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 12:19 (3788 days ago) @ dogcow
edited by iconicbanana, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 12:22
Defender Titan
Armor: Glass House, No Backup Plans, Armamentarium.
Weapons: Hawkmoon (maybe Thorn or the Mythoclast), Truth.Is Invective any good? I got it recently, but haven't played with it.
With teammates I like Glass House. On your own I'd take HoS14. Otherwise I reaaaally like this build.
Invective is the Mauler from Halo 3 if it hit like the Shotgun from Halo CE. No Backup Plans stacks well because Invective reloads really slowly.

What my loadout would be if we could equip all exotics*
by SonofMacPhisto , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 13:28 (3788 days ago) @ iconicbanana
Defender Titan
Armor: Glass House, No Backup Plans, Armamentarium.
Weapons: Hawkmoon (maybe Thorn or the Mythoclast), Truth.Is Invective any good? I got it recently, but haven't played with it.
With teammates I like Glass House. On your own I'd take HoS14. Otherwise I reaaaally like this build.Invective is the Mauler from Halo 3 if it hit like the Shotgun from Halo CE. No Backup Plans stacks well because Invective reloads really slowly.
The boost to reload speed helped quite a bit. And yeah, works real well with No Backups or Ruin Wings.
It's a fun gun. Ammo regen. Great sound. Excellent feel with Perfect Balance. Can't go wrong.

What my loadout would be if we could equip all exotics
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 12:00 (3788 days ago) @ BeardFade
Armor would go Skull of Dire Ahamkara, claws of ahamkara, voidfang, and some boots with intellect maxed.
Weapons would go Juju, Pocket Infinity, Truth. Trade in Thorn for Juju on sniper friendly maps.
Turn on annihilate, soul rip and embrace the void. Throw a lot of nova bombs.

If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by bluerunner , Music City, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 08:57 (3788 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto

If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by stabbim , Des Moines, IA, USA, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 09:22 (3788 days ago) @ bluerunner
That person hates fun, and is wrong about Porsche.

Gold...
by Korny , Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 14:10 (3788 days ago) @ bluerunner
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2w7238/misc_why_you_need_60_gjallarhorns/
"I got [Super Good Advice], realized I had legendary LMG's with better stats in every single category, and stuck it in the vault. It has never found its way out. People may say 'oh its great for Oracles/Oversoul'. However if SGA is your choice of exotic for the Crota fight you probably caused the oversoul to spawn in the first place."
*Side-eye at you-know-who*

You know that scene in Stick of Truth...
by Revenant1988
, How do I forum?, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 15:08 (3788 days ago) @ Korny
Where Clyde asks you if you'd like to pay 2 bucks for tips and advice?
That's how I feel about SGA in Destiny....

Gold...
by RaichuKFM , Northeastern Ohio, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 15:29 (3788 days ago) @ Korny
I've been having a lot of fun with SGA in the Banner.
Its Exotic perk is frankly ridiculous if you know how to use it.

If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by stabbim , Des Moines, IA, USA, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 09:19 (3788 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto
The Gjallarhorn was too good! I got stupid!
If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by Warbow, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 09:31 (3788 days ago) @ stabbim
If I ever get Gjallarhorn...I'd call it Vera.

If I ever get Gjallarhorn...
by SonofMacPhisto , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 11:52 (3788 days ago) @ Warbow
Much calm, it would damage.

7?!? I only got 2 last week. (though this week was better)
by Kahzgul, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 09:16 (3788 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Because all I got from Nightfall the previous 3 weeks was legendary engrams of terrible weapons. That's 16 shards or energy from 8 Nightfall runs.
Fortunately, this week, I finally got a Monte Carlo! It's no Gjallerhorn (or Hawkmoon), but it's an exotic I didn't have yet, and that makes me happy.
To make matters worse
by TheeChaos , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 04:33 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
When doing VOG HM the kid who kept messing up and just doing his own thing barely knowing anything about the raid, Got a Vex. Go figured
I did run a nightfall and had slightly worse luck in the fact that I got the same exotic helmet Achlyophage Symbiote. What a day.

To make matters worse
by Revenant1988
, How do I forum?, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 06:06 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
When doing VOG HM the kid who kept messing up and just doing his own thing barely knowing anything about the raid, Got a Vex. Go figured
I did run a nightfall and had slightly worse luck in the fact that I got the same exotic helmet Achlyophage Symbiote. What a day.
Ran it last night with the wife.
Just us.
Took a long time.
For our troubles, I got a helmet for a class I don't use, and she got 7 ascendant energy.
Welp.............
To make matters worse
by TheeChaos , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 06:25 (3788 days ago) @ Revenant1988
I heard of alot of people getting ascendant energy. They need to add Radiant Energy/shards to the mix. That would be a much more welcome and beneficial drop.

That would be completely contrary to their purpose
by Speedracer513 , Dallas, Texas, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:03 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
Not disputing that it would be cool to get radiant materials from Nightfall, but that goes directly contrary to the design philosophy of having raid gear (and hence the unique material needed for raid gear) to only be available to those who invest their time in the raid.
That would be completely contrary to their purpose
by TheeChaos , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:25 (3788 days ago) @ Speedracer513
Right,
But arent the ascendant materials intended for the Raid gear of VOG? And they are drops in the nightfall.

That would be completely contrary to their purpose
by stabbim , Des Moines, IA, USA, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:28 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
VoG was made before they made the change to have raid-specific upgrade materials.

That would be completely contrary to their purpose
by Revenant1988
, How do I forum?, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:29 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
Not for VOG.
The new materials are there to keep the DLC exclusive.

That would be completely contrary to their purpose
by Speedracer513 , Dallas, Texas, Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:36 (3788 days ago) @ TheeChaos
Right,
But arent the ascendant materials intended for the Raid gear of VOG? And they are drops in the nightfall.
The ascendant materials were (and still are) for all legendary gear (except for Crota's End raid gear of course). Bungie's stated purpose in introducing radiant materials this time was because they were finding that a lot of players were holding off on upgrading their normal (non-VoG) armor because they didn't want to spend their ascendant shards on the non-raid gear. But that was causing people to stay level 26/27 for a long time instead of spending the shards to level up to 28/29, making it harder for them to run VoG and have chances at that gear. Bungie wanted to encourage players to go ahead and spend their ascendant shards on the vanguard legendary armor instead of hoarding them for if/when they got raid gear, so they introduced radiant shards as the exclusive upgrade material for (new) raid gear.
However, to some extent at least, this will probably be moot going forward since Luke Smith said recently that "mistakes were made" with The Dark Below and specifically mentioned the way they implemented radiant materials as one of the mistakes they recognize and will not repeat.
That would be completely contrary to their purpose
by TheeChaos , Wednesday, February 18, 2015, 07:39 (3788 days ago) @ Speedracer513
Good bit of information to know.
Thanks,