Thorn. Just... Thorn. (Destiny)

by Ouranje ⌂, Dallas, TX, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 11:04 (3811 days ago)

I have arrived at the PVP section of this bounty, and like most everyone, I've hit a brick wall. Not even brick, it's a full blown Old Russia giant barrier wall. I have one, ONE void weapon, and it's a shotgun. Using that, I've been able to get to 121/500, but I die far more often unless, ironically, I'm in a Voidwalker's face. But short of somehow stumbling across a nice void fusion rifle like Cody apparently has, I'm stuck! I have no idea where to go from here. Any thornbearers around with tips?

(Also, I just remembered I'd gotten a Truth recently, so there is that, but I don't play crucible often enough to really have the heavy ammo spawns down yet. )

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I got this with a void shotty and truth.

by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 11:09 (3811 days ago) @ Ouranje

Use the heavy, and don't die a lot. You'll make 40 points a game with a 1.0 k/d.

I got this with a void shotty and truth.

by Ouranje ⌂, Dallas, TX, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 11:15 (3811 days ago) @ iconicbanana

As a hunter tho? Man, I'm averaging about 15 or 20 pts per game, but then I'll hit a round where like three people have Suros Regime or worse, they actually haaaave Thorn. Gets me every time.

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I got this with a void shotty and truth.

by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 12:01 (3811 days ago) @ Ouranje

As a hunter tho? Man, I'm averaging about 15 or 20 pts per game, but then I'll hit a round where like three people have Suros Regime or worse, they actually haaaave Thorn. Gets me every time.

Mm. Didn't realize you were playing hunter. My first piece of advice would have been to not do it as a hunter. :/

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Void Shotty, Truth and Corrective Measure

by BeardFade ⌂, Portland, OR, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 12:12 (3811 days ago) @ iconicbanana

Any void FR will do if that's your style, but I used a void shotty and Truth or Corrective Measure. Run VoG a time or two and you might get Corrective Measure.

That being said, and I could be wrong, but I think your teammates and assists give you points for this as well. Staying alive is premium so play more strategically, find spots where people can only come at you from 1 or 2 directions and take 'em out.

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Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by Revenant1988 ⌂ @, How do I forum?, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 11:15 (3811 days ago) @ Ouranje
edited by Revenant1988, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 11:21

I was able to do it on CC's character with a green shotgun from Banshee and a purple HMG she had.

Personally, I prefer HMGs to Rockets, simply because I can eek out more kills for the ammo. But I'm a CQB player, and I like shotguns.

Your best bet, as we've tried telling Kermit, is going in with some friends, and either having them feed you the kills, or play control (still with friends) and stay near the heavy ammo.


The problem people have with the Thorn bounty is that they treat it like a race, and they race as the Hare instead of the Tortoise.

If you try to play games with void weapons that don't fit your playstyle, where the bounty essentially requires you to go positive, you are going to have a bad time.

Play normally, by situation, and take friends, which will increase your odds of going positive. Carry that void shotty around, and use it where applicable, but don't use it exclusively.

I got it the fastest on my third attempt on not even my character simply by playing my normal style, and then when the opportunity arose, going to town with the void weapons.

You see us on, and you want to go, you holler.

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Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Thursday, February 19, 2015, 11:23 (3811 days ago) @ Ouranje

I have the thorn bounty, I'll be grinding it out in the iron banner tonight on the ps4. Come join me!

Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by DreadPirateWes, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 11:59 (3811 days ago) @ dogcow

I'm a hunter also, but I had the Epilogue. I think that I got most of my points from Swarm (old vendor weapon). Against All Odds is a good void replacement now sold by Crucible vendor. Here's my hunter strategy to get 30-50 points per match:

- Play very conservatively (shoot for ~5 deaths per match).
- Camp heavy and aim for 5-10 void machine gun kills per match
- Get 2-3 void fusion rifle kills per match
- Get 2-3 Atheon's Epilogue kills per match (if you don't have it, don't use primary)

Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by Claude Errera @, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 12:40 (3811 days ago) @ DreadPirateWes

I'm a hunter also, but I had the Epilogue. I think that I got most of my points from Swarm (old vendor weapon). Against All Odds is a good void replacement now sold by Crucible vendor. Here's my hunter strategy to get 30-50 points per match:

Against All Odds is, unfortunately, Solar right now.

(They've got a Valedictorian 9-44 RL... that's void. Hmm.)

- Play very conservatively (shoot for ~5 deaths per match).
- Camp heavy and aim for 5-10 void machine gun kills per match
- Get 2-3 void fusion rifle kills per match
- Get 2-3 Atheon's Epilogue kills per match (if you don't have it, don't use primary)

Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by DreadPirateWes, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 14:56 (3810 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Hmm, I have a void Against All Odds. Maybe it dropped... I've forgotten. I know that Vanguard MG18A Harms Way is void (I just bought one with excess marks), but it is higher ROF and less impact. Would probably work alright.

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Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by Speedracer513 @, Dallas, Texas, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 13:18 (3811 days ago) @ dogcow

I have the thorn bounty, I'll be grinding it out in the iron banner tonight on the ps4. Come join me!

I, too, am working on a Thorn bounty at currently at the Iron Banner part.

What time will you be on? I am doing a Crota raid on Xbox at 8pm CST, but will probably be jumping on PS4 after that if y'all are still rolling.

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Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Thursday, February 19, 2015, 13:39 (3810 days ago) @ Speedracer513

What time will you be on? I am doing a Crota raid on Xbox at 8pm CST, but will probably be jumping on PS4 after that if y'all are still rolling.

I'll be running from 9:00 - 10:30 MST (10 - 11:30 CST?) after which I've got a flawless crota attempt. There is a chance I'll be on earlier than 9 MST. Shoot me an invite if you see me on (and I'll do the same).

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Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by Speedracer513 @, Dallas, Texas, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 13:45 (3810 days ago) @ dogcow

What time will you be on? I am doing a Crota raid on Xbox at 8pm CST, but will probably be jumping on PS4 after that if y'all are still rolling.


I'll be running from 9:00 - 10:30 MST (10 - 11:30 CST?) after which I've got a flawless crota attempt. There is a chance I'll be on earlier than 9 MST. Shoot me an invite if you see me on (and I'll do the same).

Count me [tentatively, but most likely] in!

I highly recommend Fusion Rifles for this part of the bounty

by Dan de Board @, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 13:15 (3811 days ago) @ Ouranje

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I highly recommend Fusion Rifles for this part of the bounty

by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 13:31 (3810 days ago) @ Dan de Board

This is why we need the blackhole sun.

Won't you come and wash away the rain?

by Dagoonite, Somewhere in Iowa, lost in a cornfield., Thursday, February 19, 2015, 20:18 (3810 days ago) @ iconicbanana

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Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by slycrel ⌂, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 13:16 (3811 days ago) @ Ouranje

I've done this three times.

The first time (and most painful, as I was new to PvP) I used a blue void shotgun. I used this as if it were my primary. It took a really long time. I found that playing the smaller, confined maps was best, and at the end I realized I was better off leaving the more open maps and queueing up again.

The second and third time I had a void plug.one and void machine gun. If I was "on" with the plug.one it would be a 1 shot kill, usually at mid-range (out of shotty/wawrlock melee range at any rate). This helped tremendously. Any kills with the MG were just a bonus.

I also learned that if my team sucked I should change my strategy -- be much more conservative and strategic rather than offensive and risky. Always try to stick by someone, it splits fire when you meet an enemy, is a bigger distraction, changes enemy tactics, and overall is just better for staying alive. Which is very important with this one.

I did try to use atheon's epilogue some, but I'd die as often (or more) as I would get a kill, so I ditched that pretty quickly.

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Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 14:30 (3810 days ago) @ slycrel

I've done this three times.

The first time (and most painful, as I was new to PvP) I used a blue void shotgun. I used this as if it were my primary. It took a really long time. I found that playing the smaller, confined maps was best, and at the end I realized I was better off leaving the more open maps and queueing up again.

The second and third time I had a void plug.one and void machine gun. If I was "on" with the plug.one it would be a 1 shot kill, usually at mid-range (out of shotty/wawrlock melee range at any rate). This helped tremendously. Any kills with the MG were just a bonus.

I also learned that if my team sucked I should change my strategy -- be much more conservative and strategic rather than offensive and risky. Always try to stick by someone, it splits fire when you meet an enemy, is a bigger distraction, changes enemy tactics, and overall is just better for staying alive. Which is very important with this one.

I did try to use atheon's epilogue some, but I'd die as often (or more) as I would get a kill, so I ditched that pretty quickly.

His problem seems to be that he doesn't have any void weapons.

The solution is either to stop dying so much, or to acquire more void weapons so more of your kills count towards the bounty. There's a few good choices that have fixed stats, like Word of Crota, Atheon's Epilogue, or Corrective Measure.

I think you may have to play more Vault of Glass, and Crota's End. You could also level up with a faction and hope for a good Void fusion rifle.

It sucks that you have to grind just to do a grindy bounty though. That's some shit right there.

Thorn. Just... Thorn.

by Oholiab @, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 14:47 (3810 days ago) @ Ouranje

I have arrived at the PVP section of this bounty, and like most everyone, I've hit a brick wall. Not even brick, it's a full blown Old Russia giant barrier wall. I have one, ONE void weapon, and it's a shotgun. Using that, I've been able to get to 121/500, but I die far more often unless, ironically, I'm in a Voidwalker's face. But short of somehow stumbling across a nice void fusion rifle like Cody apparently has, I'm stuck! I have no idea where to go from here. Any thornbearers around with tips?

I posted a similar thread a while back, and would include a link to it if doing so wasn't so cumbersome on a mobile device. Look it up if you can; there was some good stuff in there.

I would simply encourage you with this: if I can get Thorn, you can get Thorn. No one is as bad as me in Crucible. Be patient, and play so as not to die... as often. For me, this meant using a rare void sniper rifle and staying out of trouble. When trouble found me, I switched to a close-quarters weapon in defense. Remember: kills with another weapon are neutral to your bounty progress; dying is not. Or, tis better to kill, than to not.

I also convinced a buddy (in this case my 11-year-old son) to be my bodyguard. He was fantastic at protecting his old man!

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I ran it as a Hunter... back when I didn't have a Hunter.

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Thursday, February 19, 2015, 18:05 (3810 days ago) @ Ouranje

Check Banshee often. He occasionally sells void weaponry, and Sammy needed the bounty, but other than Corrective Measure, she had literally zero void weapons. I don't know how she managed to play the game for five months and somehow not have one...

So I decided to see if I could help. I bought a crappy Prost FR3 from Banshee (didn't even have a decent roll) and went to the Crucible.

As I said, I didn't have a Hunter at the time, so you can see that I screwed up a lot of stuff, and I used a much more conservative playstyle, so you'll probably have better luck doing it than I did if you're used to the class. Here are two games from that night, so hopefully you can pick up some strategies and tricks to get it yourself.

He was also selling a Shotgun, but I never once used it.

My main suggestion: Use a Machine Gun as a Heavy...


*Note that at 3:00 in the video, I sacrifice a Heavy Ammo pickup to swap to a Void. You gotta keep your eyes on the prize; regular kills won't help you in any way, shape, or form.

If all else fails though, just hit me up, we'll go into Rumble, and I'll take some shotgun rounds to the face for ya.

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