
On The Bright Side... (Destiny)
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 02:55 (3779 days ago)
edited by Ragashingo, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 03:18
Wow, what a game! I kept bouncing from point to point on Shores of Time and about halfway through I got this nagging suspicion that my team only gained the lead when I killed people and only captured points when I myself was physically in the circle. Turns out that wasn't too far from the truth!
37 kills, 11 deaths, 3.36 k/d, 6730 points.
I beat the next two people on my team combined and my team was actually in the lead for a good bit of the game! I was playing awesome! My team... well one time I watched a guy come down the C tunnel... I shot him to death with my scout rifle... then right about that time my moron teammate finally noticed something was going on, turned around, and threw his grenade at the enemy's corpse. Way to go, rando! :p
Still, that was a lot of fun despite the loss. :)
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Bah. Only because I forgot.
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 03:12 (3779 days ago) @ Morpheus

Holy Smokes! Look at the other team! ***
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 13:05 (3779 days ago) @ Ragashingo
edited by iconicbanana, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 13:08
How do you do literally nothing?! They all have the same emblems! Were they in party?! Did he play the whole game?!

Join-in-progress?
by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 14:29 (3779 days ago) @ iconicbanana
I once got dropped into a game where the only thing I could do is kill 2 dudes. Not even a Capture Point change-of-state. Perfect 2.0 K/D, but it sucked.

Maybe?
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 14:30 (3779 days ago) @ ZackDark
I once got dropped into a game where the only thing I could do is kill 2 dudes. Not even a Capture Point change-of-state. Perfect 2.0 K/D, but it sucked.
He was in for at least 2 minutes, because that's about how long you'd have to be in to die 8 times.

Nope!
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 14:36 (3779 days ago) @ iconicbanana
I once got dropped into a game where the only thing I could do is kill 2 dudes. Not even a Capture Point change-of-state. Perfect 2.0 K/D, but it sucked.
He was in for at least 2 minutes, because that's about how long you'd have to be in to die 8 times.
Here you go. Avg. life was 1 min, 25 sec. Gotta be AFK.

10min of AFK or 10min of pure suck?
by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 15:39 (3779 days ago) @ iconicbanana
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Gotta be AFK. Didn't even have a zone capture.
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 15:42 (3779 days ago) @ ZackDark
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Right. Not even an Assist, ffs
by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 15:43 (3779 days ago) @ iconicbanana
edited by ZackDark, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 15:50
I wonder why the boot-bot didn't catch it

Was wondering that too.
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 15:51 (3779 days ago) @ ZackDark
I wonder why the boot-bot didn't catch it
If he was in a party maybe it wouldn't have?

Holy Smokes! Look at the other team! ***
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 16:09 (3779 days ago) @ iconicbanana
I think there was in fact an AFKer. Once I jetted between the back B and C snipping points trying to find the radar blip I kept crossing over. This player was either a master of silent evasion or was cheating... Oh... Or wasn't moving and had a shader that blended in... :p

Holy Smokes! Look at the other team! ***
by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 16:11 (3779 days ago) @ Ragashingo
I think there was in fact an AFKer. Once I jetted between the back B and C snipping points trying to find the radar blip I kept crossing over. This player was either a master of silent evasion or was cheating... Oh... Or wasn't moving and had a shader that blended in... :p
If he was cheating, he really sucked at it. XD

On The Bright Side...
by Korny , Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 04:00 (3779 days ago) @ Ragashingo
Wow, what a game! I kept bouncing from point to point on Shores of Time and about halfway through I got this nagging suspicion that my team only gained the lead when I killed people and only captured points when I myself was physically in the circle. Turns out that wasn't too far from the truth!
37 kills, 11 deaths, 3.36 k/d, 6730 points.
I beat the next two people on my team combined and my team was actually in the lead for a good bit of the game! I was playing awesome! My team... well one time I watched a guy come down the C tunnel... I shot him to death with my scout rifle... then right about that time my moron teammate finally noticed something was going on, turned around, and threw his grenade at the enemy's corpse. Way to go, rando! :p
Still, that was a lot of fun despite the loss. :)
That's rough... But at least your team stuck it out.
Sammy and I can relate to the feeling of having to carry randoms to victory...
Heck, I'd say there's something off with Trueskill...
I actually remember back in day 1, when I was like "Can't wait for Trueskill to start kicking in..." But, like all other aspects of the game, Bungie seems to have fallen asleep at the wheel...
On The Bright Side...
by Earendil, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 12:58 (3779 days ago) @ Korny
I actually remember back in day 1, when I was like "Can't wait for Trueskill to start kicking in..." But, like all other aspects of the game, Bungie seems to have fallen asleep at the wheel...
The sign that some sort of TrueSkill math is failing is not that you have a lopsided game, but that your win/loss ratio isn't hovering around 50%. Any sort of matching system is only going to use an average ability, but some people will swinger higher/lower than average due to fatigue/alcohal/drugs/emotion/life/bounties. The system can't tell when it pairs you whether any one player will player higher or lower than their personal the average. Get a couple higher players in one side, low on the other, and it'll feel like the matching system failed. However, given enough games the tables should turn, and even out the previous lopsided game.
This doesn't mean that Bungies system is good, only that the evidense I've seen people use to prove it is insufficient.
I should stop posting from my phone
by Earendil, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 16:37 (3779 days ago) @ Earendil
I actually remember back in day 1, when I was like "Can't wait for Trueskill to start kicking in..." But, like all other aspects of the game, Bungie seems to have fallen asleep at the wheel...
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The sign that some sort of TrueSkill math is failing is not that you have a lopsided game, but that your win/loss ratio isn't hovering around 50%. Any sort of matching system is only going to use an average ability, but some people will swing higher/lower than average due to fatigue/alcohol/drugs/emotion/life/bounties. The system can't predict when it pairs you whether any one player will play higher or lower than their personal average. Get a couple higher players in one side, low on the other, and it'll feel like the matching system failed. However, given enough games the tables should turn, and even out the previous lopsided game.
This doesn't mean that Bungie's system is good, only that the evidence I've seen people use to prove it is insufficient.
I'm a bad enough proof reader. I'm 10x as bad on a phone. gah!

On The Bright Side...
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 16:19 (3779 days ago) @ Korny
I probably couldn't come up with that many examples of blowouts if I searched through all my Crucible matches. Maybe you need to consider that there isn't much Trueskill or Bungie can do if are at the top end of Destiny players... :)