I really hope the Less/More perks only appear in multi-perk slots. It would suck if you had to lower a particular trait just to max out the weapon.

I was thinking the same thing. It would quickly turn into a game of "what other gear/ability can I equip to counter the negative impact of this perk", which is a lot of trouble just to "break even".

-If replenish fills your mag the same way Bad JuJu's perk does, I could see that being great way to get extra special ammo in Crucible.

-Triple tap is identical to Phantom gift on The Word of Crota

-Some of the Less/More perks seem redundant. Specifically, Hand-Laid stock and Injection Mold.

Battle Runner, Hidden Hand

The only two I'm interested in right now.

Constantly in Crucible, thought I never understand why, since I always kill them because they miss wildly.

Interesting now that there is a hemet and a perk that increase accuracy while in the air. Do people do lots of jump shots that I'm not aware of?

The only reason I would jump shoot is if I had a shotgun, AR or something like the last word. And really, it would barely help the AR and maybe help last word...

I suspect these perks were specifically designed to go along with the Sunsigner's Angel of Light perk, in an attempt to make it more useful.

*Edit*

Of course, this would only apply to the weapon perk since the helmet is a Hunter item. Duh lol

This is already an incredibly deadly combination, add this perk on a shotgun and it may get even deadlier. I'm not very good at it, and I fear that I will die even more often from hunters and warlocks doing this.

Interesting now that there is a hemet and a perk that increase accuracy while in the air. Do people do lots of jump shots that I'm not aware of?

Constantly. It's a great way to get the jump (heh) on an opponent. If you can land a shot (rarely 2) before hitting the ground you've got the advantage. Also, if you're paying attention to other fights around you, a quick jump-shot can net you a kill on an already weakened opponent.

Now one caveat is that this works best with weapons like Hand Cannons, sometimes Shotguns, and rarely Pulse/Scout rifles. I haven't had much success with Auto Rifles, Sniper Rifles, Machineguns, or Fusion Rifles. (but then I hate Fusion Rifles)

I would imagine the positive attributes for these perks are higher than any of the perks you could previously get, otherwise, yes they would be pointless.

Thoughts?

These are mostly dumb. The current perks give bonuses without drawbacks. All of these do the same thing, but have drawbacks and so are worse. Either they are replacing the current perks, or they will just never be used and be dumb.

I want Graverobber on a shotgun.

Get up close and personal, lay waste to a dozen enemies with your boomstick, run out of ammo in the middle of the horde, then one punch the face and you're back in it with no downtime. This is how Titans were meant to play.

-Disciple

Graverobber could be great in situations such as what you've described, depending how frequently it triggers. If it's at least 50%, then it'll be useful. Much less than that and I fear it won't be enough to allow a substantial change in playstyle.

;p