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That being said, there are certain skulls that take all the fun out of fighting the Cabal. The one that stops them from flinching under fire is a real ball-buster.

Try a shotgun my friend :) Universal Remote can almost one shot them when you shoot them in the hand, faster firing ones could probably take them out as well. Of course my favorite way is still to run up to them, dodge to the left from theirs wing and then shotgun/fusion them.

That being said, there are certain skulls that take all the fun out of fighting the Cabal. The one that stops them from flinching under fire is a real ball-buster.

Only if you are playing them solo. That is what I like about the cabal, it takes tactics and the tactics change depending on different factors.

[the Hive] - Have yet to see them fight other races.

They fight the Fallen in the Cosmodrome in a movement against the enemy. They also fight the Fallen in the Devil's Lair.

(Note: Rev also finds them boring to fight from gameplay perspective)

Though it wasn't touched much in the game (like all of Destiny's 'story') the cards do hint that there is something more to the Cabal, that hints there might be more behind their motivation to fight Humanity, or rather that they are fighting Humanity because of circumstance, not so much because 'evil' or because 'darkness' said so.

Yeah, I probably should reread the grimoire on the Cabal. Like I said, I find the Vex & Hive more interesting story wise, and that's probably because of the raid & my researching of their lore/story.

1.) Hive (I also love the flood in Halo, go figure)

Evil because reasons fighting humanity because reasons. Ambiguous "darkness" overlord\force works for them, I guess. Space zombies. They fight the fallen because reasons? Aren't they all on the same "darkness" team? Whatever. Have yet to see them fight other races. They are my most favorite visually.

Yeah, I'm not clear on why the fallen are fighting the hive, perhaps the hive are the reason the fallen are ... fallen? The Hive seem the most evil to me.

2.) Fallen

Remind me of Jackals from Halo, in that they seem to be more profiteering than malicious. They look like they experienced their own cataclysm and simply war with Humanity because they need what little we have so THEY can survive. Like their over dependence on machines. Fight the Hive because....reasons. Also fighting Vex, because reasons.

I suspect they fight the Vex because of the same reason they fight Humanity, to pillage & survive, steal technology, stuff like that. Again, I think they have a grudge with the Hive.

3.) Cabal

A military force that by appearance and discipline looks like it should either be BETTER than whatever Earth had or has left or on Par. Evenly matched opponents for Humanity. Grim cards hint (I think) that they have control of one of Mars' moons, could potentially launch it like a weapon. Shit. Also hints that they might be running FROM the Darkness, forced to fight by circumstance, like the Fallen. They fight the Vex too. War on at least two fronts that we know of. Tragically boring to fight in gameplay hinders their potential. They seem like they were developed LAST compared to the other races in game.

I've felt the motivation for the Cabal fighting was just basic conquest.

4.) Vex

Robot Zealots from the days of futures-past's-future-self-and-me-2000. Destiny's entire story may or may not end up being one giant simulation, in a sleeping robots mind. Someone jiggle the mouse, please. Enemies vary, they surprise you, overwhelm you with slow precision. They fight the Fallen and Cabal because skynet probably. They are my least favorite, probably because of repetition at this point.

I REALLY hope this isn't another matrix/simulation plot. I mean, it's cool in that it brings up the questions of reality & existence, but having this all be a simulation in a vex mind(s) will make all the battle seem pointless.

If the comet is as big as has been suggested, I doubt it will be completely Hive. I would imagine we're going to get a roughly equal amount of new content (as far as missions/strikes) for each race, but maybe the Raid is a Hive Raid. I can't imagine that 12 missions and 4 strikes (the numbers according to the leaked slide) would all be Hive themed.

You're totally right in terms of who we'll be fighting across these missions... but with the lone new location seemingly Hive themed, I think it's safe to say we'll see a lot of it. I'm sure the other factions will play into the expansion prominently enough, just in previously existing locations.

Again, do we have any evidence that this is Hive content or are we surmising it based on three words?

If the comet is as big as has been suggested, I doubt it will be completely Hive. I would imagine we're going to get a roughly equal amount of new content (as far as missions/strikes) for each race, but maybe the Raid is a Hive Raid. I can't imagine that 12 missions and 4 strikes (the numbers according to the leaked slide) would all be Hive themed.

You're totally right in terms of who we'll be fighting across these missions... but with the lone new location seemingly Hive themed, I think it's safe to say we'll see a lot of it. I'm sure the other factions will play into the expansion prominently enough, just in previously existing locations.

What I want to see is more interaction between the races. That can either be fighting or cooperation. There isn't much of a stance as to why they aren't fighting each other just as much as they are fighting us.

For some reason I actually always imagined it being a human ship that had been overrun by Hive. Like the ship from the concept art:

I think I would not mind a Human ship taken over by the Hive though I still think the Cabal would be better (mostly because they need more story.) Certainly I've been intrigued by the idea of going to that ship ever since I first saw the artwork.

There is so much misinformation and rampant speculation (bleeding into one another, of course) in this thread, I find it amusing. :)

I wouldn't call mixing up these names misinformation. It is certainly speculation though, as everything in this thread is.

There is so much misinformation and rampant speculation (bleeding into one another, of course) in this thread, I find it amusing. :)

Isn't that exactly what forum threads are for? ;p

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I thought a name was given but, of course, I haven't seen it in a while.