Comprehensive trailer for the content in HoW:

Pumped!

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...gravity lift that ferries troops and supplies between the ship and the surface?!

Dammit. Hopefully Xur can sell anything that isn't Mythoclast/Necrocasm tier.

I'm really looking forward to trying out sidearms, though.

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You are building a character that persists into the future.

This makes me happy. :)

PvP

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New jumping puzzle? The sound effect and animation were there.

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Maybe so. Look at those platforms that lead over to the Ketch out in the open sky.

New jumping puzzle? The sound effect and animation were there.

Shut yo mouth!

(via reddit)

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At 4:21 in the video, it definitely shows the Scorch Cannon being used against a level 28 captain in the Vault of Glass...

Mind Blown.

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My mind was too busy being blown to notice you posted this a few minutes before I posted below.

At 4:21 in the video, it definitely shows the Scorch Cannon being used against a level 28 captain in the Vault of Glass...

Mind Blown.

I doubt that's the Vault. It's part of the new strike. Although it would be cool if the Captain fled into Vex gates or something and you had to chase him through alternate timelines.

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That's the vault.

Possibilites!

1. Captain runs through Vex gates to hide in time and space. Why else would he have gone to the Citadel?
2. Modifiers for raids which switch around enemies and stuff.
3. We are being messed with.

At 4:21 in the video, it definitely shows the Scorch Cannon being used against a level 28 captain in the Vault of Glass...

Mind Blown.

I doubt that's the Vault. It's part of the new strike. Although it would be cool if the Captain fled into Vex gates or something and you had to chase him through alternate timelines.

Dude, look again. There is no way that is not the Vault of Glass.

Does that mean this is something we'll actually see in the game? No, of course not. Maybe Bungie was just messing around with stuff in the Vault and that one-second clip made its way in there (and this will be the next thing you claim is a broken promise by Bungie) -- but it's definitely the Vault.

Does that mean this is something we'll actually see in the game? No, of course not. Maybe Bungie was just messing around with stuff in the Vault and that one-second clip made its way in there (and this will be the next thing you claim is a broken promise by Bungie) -- but it's definitely the Vault.

The ONLY promise I will say Bungie broke is going to Saturn.

Possibilites!

1. Captain runs through Vex gates to hide in time and space. Why else would he have gone to the Citadel?
2. Modifiers for raids which switch around enemies and stuff.
3. We are being messed with.

It is definitely the Templar's Well inside the Vault... the player with the shoulder canon is standing just in front of the middle staircase down to the relic spawn, but he's facing towards the left towards where the left conflux spawns.

I haz an excite!

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Here's the screenshot taken from the new HoW trailer:

And here's a screencap from one of my Vault of Glass videos:

So yeah... it's definitely the Templar's Well.

EEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

See my post above. It's taken in the Templar's Well, standing in front of the central stairs, facing towards where the left conflux spawns.

-Always spawns with ammo???
-Tracking, ricocheting projectiles???

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Yes, I know the spot that you think it is. But I see differences and I'm not convinced that's it. Furthermore, the context of the video suggests it is on the moon.

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Yes, I know the spot that you think it is. But I see differences and I'm not convinced that's it. Furthermore, the context of the video suggests it is on the moon.

It's pretty clearly the same place to me. What differences are you seeing?

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That's our ticket in!

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If the first area after going up it is a big room with multiple doors and stealth vandals I'm going to freak out.

"No Fallen? You just had to open your mouth!" After that a door should open and two Cabal Phalanxes should walk in. :)

You are building a character that persists into the future.

This makes me happy. :)

So your butt-ugly redness will persist alongside my awe-inspiring blue forever.

Well, it's the same geometry. That doesn't necessarily mean it's actually the "Vault of Glass" raid as we know it. It could be some other event taking place in that space.

I don't think it's the raid... I think it's more that the Fallen found a way into the Vault which would have big story implications... if Bungie decides to put story in this one...

"European Dead Zone" also happens to be the one place space I was looking forward to the most before launch. Presuming it hasn't been cut, its what I'm looking forward to the most in playing HOW. And it only took 7 months after launch. >_>

(Can't find the footage I'm thinking of ;_;)

YES! I thought about posting this a while ago, but I wasn't sure how to approach it w/o spoilers ;)

Edit: Looking at timestamps, probably at about the exact same time you did. lol.

The other angle threw me off, I guess.

Dat stability. Dat Rate of Fire.

Haven't gotten it yet, but a couple people have shared it online:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/35b59d/new_info_on_how_story_quests/

That link goes to the Goliath video, in case you were wondering.

It's interesting that even now they still see Fist of Havoc as a compelling thing to put in their videos.

Not saying I disagree.

4. Someone used Copy and Paste for the new levels

Not arguing for it, but it's a possibility.

I agree it looks good, but am I the only one who can't see it as anything other than Gear of War?

(Magnetic Accelerated Cannon)

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It's probably The Juncture or Citadel.

I'll eat the sock on video.

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It's very clearly the vault :)

http://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=68417

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It is pretty damn epic :)

Also, what I'm seeing here is, if I run out of Sahara bullets somehow, I can swap to my Secondary weapon, which is a mini-Sahara.

Yes please.

No sneaking in any Bill the Cat merchandise on us.

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If we fight captains in that raid, I will have a video of me buying the socks from Dollar Tree, boiling them, and eating one. I will have ProbablyLast confirm it and be present.

If we fight captains in that raid, I will have a video of me buying the socks from Dollar Tree, boiling them, and eating one. I will have ProbablyLast confirm it and be present.

I think we all were just saying that it was definitely in the vault, not part of the actual raid activity. SO:

If it's just a different activity in the Vault of Glass area, no sock ingestion.

If it's a new form of the VoG that involves fighting fallen, you eat dem socks!

I'm not saying that there is going to be a version of the raid with Fallen in it... I'm saying that at some point in the House of Wolves, we will end up in the Templar's Well (in the Vault of Glass) fighting fallen.

My suspicion is that there will be a story mission that takes us into the Vault at some point.

It's either GoW or Assassin's Creed. I can't quite picture Destiny there yet.

I'm glad everyone's on the same page now. I was reading this thread and thinking "I think these guys aren't actually having the same argument." :)

I'm 100% behind this idea.

Great episode.

That about sums it up...what were we talking about again?

Though I think there is a very good chance that that is exactly what's going on, that it's just a story mission in Templar's Well, I will eat a portion of the boiled sock.

Can't be as bad as that time I ate 3 expired tijuana mamas in 5 minutes.

And, of course, the full sock for raid bet.

I just became completely uninterested in this bet.

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I'm not saying that there is going to be a version of the raid with Fallen in it... I'm saying that at some point in the House of Wolves, we will end up in the Templar's Well (in the Vault of Glass) fighting fallen.

My suspicion is that there will be a story mission that takes us into the Vault at some point.

Wasn't there a lot of geometry that someone found early on that wasn't used in the Vault proper? Maybe it's going to be used now.

You do seem oddly committed to the idea that this is going to happen.

Oh, and, it also looks like it has Graverobber.

And, if anyone was unaware of what the flavor text is about, this is what the refrance:

GHOST FRAGMENT: FALLEN 2

A ROUTINE SUMMATION OF DARLINGS WON AND HEROICALLY HELD DURING THIS PROFITABLE CYCLE, AS COMPILED BY A DREG

ammunition of rich makes, quantity adequate to incinerate 6X6 foe

11 operational weapons, alien design, suitable for salvage

3 explosive charges of obvious design, suitable for salvage

1 cabal fusion reactor, disabled but perhaps repairable

61 machines, alien, inoperable, unknown significances

13 alien machines, inoperable, known significances

3 glints

7 herealways

1103 twists of essence

15 human body parts, kept for study, scorn

55 human adornments, full of glory and warm memory, worth the cost of their acquisition and more so

some ether, quantity negligible

considerable experience in battle

4 dregs dead, rendering House of Winter weaker

1 dreg honoring self and House, leading to consideration of fabricated arms

1 disabled Fallen skiff, scrubbed of House identity and stories

1 Fallen story found beside the disabled skiff, unknown House, partly corrupted, rendered as follows:

what others call dark which is not I know what it is but no time room calm given for an appropriate telling so I say only that what is not shadow is an ally and a wonder and I respect what I cannot steal from and you cannot take from the dark you can claim only pain from the dark and that is why the dark is worthy of love beyond all other love that astonishing ability to evade being robbed

I love what I will not name

1 story, Fallen and found beneath the skiff, unknown House, story uncorrupted

subsequently the second recording has been washed away

operator error

I know what no one else knows and now I am a marvel with ten thousand arms

Hands down my favorite Grimoire card in the game.

I'm not saying that there is going to be a version of the raid with Fallen in it... I'm saying that at some point in the House of Wolves, we will end up in the Templar's Well (in the Vault of Glass) fighting fallen.

My suspicion is that there will be a story mission that takes us into the Vault at some point.

Wasn't there a lot of geometry that someone found early on that wasn't used in the Vault proper? Maybe it's going to be used now.

Could be... If nothing else, maybe we'll do some fighting through the Trials of Kabr pathways.

That leads to the European Dead Zone. We don't go there anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsnCV-aJmfo

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