A few Youtubers are posting rundowns of all the new HoW faction gear, and it struck me: THEY'RE ALL IDENTICAL. Seriously, am I just noticing this? I guess I haven't poked around the different factions since I only rep DO and only on my Hunter, but I seem to remember the models being at least a little different. But it looks like the all the facton gear (and at least the Hunter capes) 3D models are the same, just with different textures.

And specifically, those Hunter masks... ::headdesk::

There are maybe one or two variants for helmets/gloves but yeah, lot of copy pasting happening with factions.

A few Youtubers are posting rundowns of all the new HoW faction gear, and it struck me: THEY'RE ALL IDENTICAL. Seriously, am I just noticing this? I guess I haven't poked around the different factions since I only rep DO and only on my Hunter, but I seem to remember the models being at least a little different. But it looks like the all the facton gear (and at least the Hunter capes) 3D models are the same, just with different textures.

And specifically, those Hunter masks... ::headdesk::

Yeah it's been like this since the game shipped, and it's not just faction gear, everything is basically based off of a master model of the particular item in question.

A lot of things in Destiny just looks like a form of Lego, like it is a kit.

Take ships for example- ignoring colors, many of them are similar, except for incredibly minor details. Maybe an extra antenna here, additional thruster in the back, different nose cone.

Ever look closely at a Titan helmet? The majority of them are exactly the same from behind, and the bottom lip, but with slightly different details on the face places. Kinda like changing the face plates on older xbox 360s!

Shit, if you look at the Crota expansion items, most of it looks like they took a basic weapon model, and just clipped a bunch of hive texture on it. Add a skull here, place a spike there- done. It's now a "new" gun. One of the Crota raid ships looks like Aspect of glass but with hive bones glued on.

A lot of Destiny's stuff looks like that, actually.

(Before someone get's butthurt about it, Yes, I know there are a few different models of guns\ships\armor, what I'm saying though, is you can essentially strip away the bolted on details and greeblies and boil it down to 3-4 core models.)

(Before someone get's butthurt about it, Yes, I know there are a few different models of guns\ships\armor, what I'm saying though, is you can essentially strip away the bolted on details and greeblies and boil it down to 3-4 core models.)

If anything, I think we're all butthurt that everything looks the same.

A few Youtubers are posting rundowns of all the new HoW faction gear, and it struck me: THEY'RE ALL IDENTICAL. Seriously, am I just noticing this? I guess I haven't poked around the different factions since I only rep DO and only on my Hunter, but I seem to remember the models being at least a little different. But it looks like the all the facton gear (and at least the Hunter capes) 3D models are the same, just with different textures.

And specifically, those Hunter masks... ::headdesk::

Yeah it's been like this since the game shipped, and it's not just faction gear, everything is basically based off of a master model of the particular item in question.

A lot of things in Destiny just looks like a form of Lego, like it is a kit.

Take ships for example- ignoring colors, many of them are similar, except for incredibly minor details. Maybe an extra antenna here, additional thruster in the back, different nose cone.

Ever look closely at a Titan helmet? The majority of them are exactly the same from behind, and the bottom lip, but with slightly different details on the face places. Kinda like changing the face plates on older xbox 360s!

Shit, if you look at the Crota expansion items, most of it looks like they took a basic weapon model, and just clipped a bunch of hive texture on it. Add a skull here, place a spike there- done. It's now a "new" gun. One of the Crota raid ships looks like Aspect of glass but with hive bones glued on.

A lot of Destiny's stuff looks like that, actually.

(Before someone get's butthurt about it, Yes, I know there are a few different models of guns\ships\armor, what I'm saying though, is you can essentially strip away the bolted on details and greeblies and boil it down to 3-4 core models.)

Yeah I've definitely noticed it with guns and ships, and I guess I suspected the armors were similar, but this was the first time their blatant copy/paste nature was so clearly laid out for me.

I could forgive and understand a bit of repetition in the weapons, since there are SO MANY of them; but there's only 3 Factions. Can we not have a little model-diversity among them? Like, why would I pick one over the other; colors?!

Like, why would I pick one over the other; colors?!

That's exactly what I did.

I mean, I guess I MIGHT have picked a faction if I knew what their motivations and back stories were, IF THERE WERE ANY HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOOOHOHOHOOHOHO

Seriously- Faction, bongle, why me care? Why me bother? What r point?

BONGLE, y u no answer?!

In a future where you can design literally anything you want, why would you just say "I'll take that gun Mike made and then just make it purple. Bam! New gun!" Even though I'm sure it was done to save space and memory, it reeks of laziness. Now, it's possible that it's a super clever means to put in what appears to be more variety in the game while reducing load times (loading textures is faster than loading both objects and textures), but man - in a game like this, you want to see more variation.

Space ships are where I'm really bothered. Where are the spheres, the borg cubes, and historically accurate russian space capsules, the easter egg covenant ships? WHERE???

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Like, why would I pick one over the other; colors?!

That's exactly what I did.

I mean, I guess I MIGHT have picked a faction if I knew what their motivations and back stories were, IF THERE WERE ANY HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOOOHOHOHOOHOHO

Seriously- Faction, bongle, why me care? Why me bother? What r point?

BONGLE, y u no answer?!

There is actually a decent amount of history and lore about the factions if you are willing to go looking (in the grimoire of course), and if you want to pick one based on thematic reasons (and not just colors or because you want Intellect/Discipline builds and hate Strength).

I recommend checking out Guardian Radio Episode 101 if you want to dive in to the faction lore.

Like this:

But way more Goth.

I think if DO had a representative with the same amount of charisma as the other faction leaders, they would be more appealing. That Arach Jalaal guy is just creepy.

That Arach Jalaal guy is just creepy.

The way Bungie set it up is that everything is composed of smaller pieces. The small pieces are all memory approved and just like legos you can assemble them together to form new equipment. The only limitation is that it has to fit in the memory map for gear.

There is a dev diary showing this somewhere.

Bascially, they can rapidly put together gear using this lego technique. It seems though that the ease of doing so contributes to rather minimal changes to the designs.

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Wow. Never managed to get that ship. I guess it's hard to cater to a ship that very few people will get.

I liked a lot about Interstellar but that character really didn't do it for me.

I think if DO had a representative with the same amount of charisma as the other faction leaders, they would be more appealing. That Arach Jalaal guy is just creepy.

/Arach Jalaal voice ON
Greetings Guardian. Dead Orbit requires you to find... Throat lozenges. Please Guardian, we cannot achieve our goals without your help.

That's, uh, that's from Fargo...? :)

That dev kit setup is really clever, allowing for guarantees that items fit into Poly budgets, and it makes sense for armor. But why do all spaceships have two wings, one front pod, a middle box, and an engine/back pod? It seems to me that they designed the ships to have fixed locations for connecting each element, which means the middle "box" section can't be long and thin or tall or really anything but a square with different sorts of doodads hanging off of it. I'd love to see the boxes dictate where the different other elements attached and at what angles. You'd get lots more variety.

Also, since you have modular ship design, why can't players take their ships to the shipbuilder and modularly design their ships???

And why does Birth of History still have its back section misaligned so as to create a giant poly hole in the middle? It's been this way since the first Iron Banner!

/Arach Jalaal voice ON
Greetings Guardian. Dead Orbit requires you to find... Throat lozenges. Please Guardian, we cannot achieve our goals without your help.

Theeeese creeeeatures stand between our people and the STARS!

I think if DO had a representative with the same amount of charisma as the other faction leaders, they would be more appealing. That Arach Jalaal guy is just creepy.

Dead Orbit is creepy! The put people in some kind of weird machine that gives glimpses of the future... or something... unless it renders them catatonic or deranged!

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http://db.destinytracker.com/grimoire/allies/city-factions

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And why does Birth of History still have its back section misaligned so as to create a giant poly hole in the middle? It's been this way since the first Iron Banner!

That's a feature.

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This is a huge complaint of mine. The basic ships that they give you are so mind numbingly dull and boring it's sad.

I have kept the same ship since I got it twords the beginning because what's the point. They all look the same to me.

The same with Sparrows, I wish different models would at least have different choices like a racing boost, a gun attached, different trick modes, a flamethrower something........just having a different color, and a colored trail isn't enough.

CC

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Well when MY guardian was put in the machine, she realized she was the single most important frood in the universe!

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