Qodron is haaaard. (Destiny)

by TeejayF, Sunny California, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 00:11 (3698 days ago)

Thanks to Blackstar and Warbow, I managed to make it through level 32 PoE tonight. I've gotta say, woooow is Qodron hard but oh boooy was it so much fun! The amount of teamwork that required was jut excellent. It felt like a real accomplishment finally getting him down after about an hour of trying.

Sweet deal! Now on to level 34 PoE!

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Qodron is haaaard.

by Kahzgul, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 00:51 (3698 days ago) @ TeejayF

It is a hard fight, I agree, but the AI for the Eye of Qodron is frustratingly the same AI as all other Goblins, which means that sometimes it will just stay behind cover where you can't see (or shoot) it, and sometimes it will stay inside the spawn area where it literally cannot be harmed. Things like this about Destiny just mystify me. Bungie has scripted scores of epic encounters and they're no strangers to giving special units scripted behavior to make the fight flow in a desired way. I can't believe that "sometimes the players will be totally unable to do anything about the the Eye and they'll wipe" was a game design goal of this fight, and yet it seems like exactly the situation that unit scripting exists for. Of the 20 or so attempts it took my team to beat Qodron this week, at least half of those attempts were aborted because the eye couldn't be found or refused to leave his spawn. Three of those A-Eye fails were when Qodron had less than 10% health remaining. Almost as frustrating as dying to lag during Crucible matches.

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by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 01:26 (3698 days ago) @ TeejayF

Thanks to Blackstar and Warbow, I managed to make it through level 32 PoE tonight. I've gotta say, woooow is Qodron hard but oh boooy was it so much fun! The amount of teamwork that required was jut excellent. It felt like a real accomplishment finally getting him down after about an hour of trying.

Sweet deal! Now on to level 34 PoE!

He is depressingly easier than he was last time, as a 34 AND before Bungie added all of those nerfs/training wheels. Can you imagine?

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by TeejayF, Sunny California, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 01:31 (3698 days ago) @ Korny

Oh yeah? What did they change/nerf/add?

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The bubbles were nigh-impossible to burst before dying back

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Sunday, June 07, 2015, 01:59 (3698 days ago) @ TeejayF

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by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 05:01 (3698 days ago) @ TeejayF

Oh yeah? What did they change/nerf/add?

According to the Patch Notes:
Damage caused by Qodron’s Gaze is reduced by 25%
Damage multiplier for the Jailbreaker buff increased by 100%

Before, a 33 would die in about three-four seconds at full health. A 34 would die in about six seconds. With Jailbreaker, depending on the weapon, you'd be lucky to break out both teammates; and if you didn't have the Jailbreaker, good luck to your team. Sunsingers were super valuable, and communication/timing was all standing between you and failure.

It was great. I loved every second of it. Now...

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by petetheduck, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 21:04 (3698 days ago) @ Korny

Oh yeah? What did they change/nerf/add?


According to the Patch Notes:
Damage caused by Qodron’s Gaze is reduced by 25%
Damage multiplier for the Jailbreaker buff increased by 100%

Before, a 33 would die in about three-four seconds at full health. A 34 would die in about six seconds. With Jailbreaker, depending on the weapon, you'd be lucky to break out both teammates; and if you didn't have the Jailbreaker, good luck to your team. Sunsingers were super valuable, and communication/timing was all standing between you and failure.

It was great. I loved every second of it. Now...

Played it today, the buff wasn't necessary--we missed it several times and still had no problem breaking out. Maybe it was because we were 34 in a 32 encounter but yeah, ..

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by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 21:42 (3698 days ago) @ petetheduck

Maybe it was because we were 34 in a 32 encounter but yeah, ..

That probably has a lot to do with it.

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by stabbim @, Des Moines, IA, USA, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 02:58 (3698 days ago) @ Korny

He is depressingly easier than he was last time, as a 34 AND before Bungie added all of those nerfs/training wheels. Can you imagine?

Yeah, I was saying as much to my team when we did it a couple nights ago. I never ran him that first week, but even as it is now on 32, you can just BARELY break yourself out without jailbreaker, IF you were at full health when detained and you have a decent weapon fully loaded. It seems to me that previously, getting out without jailbreaker must have been nearly impossible.

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by DreadPirateWes, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 03:13 (3698 days ago) @ stabbim

365 found verdict broke me out

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by TeejayF, Sunny California, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 03:53 (3698 days ago) @ DreadPirateWes

Blackstar was a huge help keeping track of jailbreaker, but a 365 Invective helped a ton. No issues running out of ammo, and a full round clip + 1 seemed to break me out pretty quickly.

Imagine what?

by Monochron, Sunday, June 07, 2015, 04:04 (3698 days ago) @ Korny

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Qodron is haaaard.

by Warbow, Monday, June 08, 2015, 12:33 (3697 days ago) @ TeejayF

I had a blast. It took us a while to get our rhythm, but we got it. The adds were relentless. Between them and the containment fields I barely had any time to shoot at Qodron. I can't imagine this on 34 before the de-buffs.

I also had a great time with Blackstar and Narcogen after. Just running around doing bounties and I think there was a Weekly Heroic in there somewhere.

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Qodron is haaaard.

by BlackstarBSP, Monday, June 08, 2015, 22:37 (3697 days ago) @ TeejayF

Thanks for playing! It was fun. Glad I could help. Sorry it took so long. :P

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