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Because it was encrypted via radial A. Ghost didn't know whom he stole the log in info for, just that he had gotten it.

Given the stated dangers of just being in proximity to Vex structures, it is reasonable that the collective took serious measures to keep people from poking around, including encrypting the login data. So even if Ghost decrypted the user ID in order to get access, he would have no idea who the ID was for.

That isn't true, at least not today.

User Names are usually clear text, while passwords are hashed. You may not be able to look at the hash and determine anything from it, but you can look at the user name. On top of that, when systems are "hacked" they usually bypass the authentication system entirely. Brute forcing (rainbow attacks etc) would, if successful, give you the login and password in clear text. Bypassing the authentication entirely would mean that the doors were opened, but the AI wouldn't know who entered.

Having said that, the problems with encryption in use today, are already solved problems, it's just that the world is slow to adopt the solutions. Given the time difference, I would not expect traditional login/pw brute forcing and related "hacks" to be the way of the future. For example, you can simply have a couple incorrect attempts lock out the account. No matter how fast Ghost could brute force, he'd never be so lucky to nail it in the first couple tries.

On top of that, when you break into a system via a REAL login and password, it's usually really simple to figure out who you logged in as, because there is a permission level associated with that person that Ghost would most certainly want to know. Given that he hacked in whole minutes before the Dr. Shim greeting, ghost should have known who he signed into the system as.

And again, since you brought it up, Occam's Razor. We have an AI that interfaces with hardware via light beams, and cracks doors all the time. If every other instance of cracking a door open, I doubt he's using a Hive login/pw. So, I don't think he typed in a password, I think he bypassed the security and authentication entirely, giving himself root access to all data, not a subset of data limited by whatever "random" credentials he happened upon first.

Now, modern security tends to use two-factor authentication. Something you have, and something you know. Something you "know" could be guessed, hacked, or bypassed, and usually would not be identifying. For example, I know my passcode for work, and my work does not. They have a hashed version, but that's it. On the other hand, the "have" usually is identifying. In my case it's a keycard, which identifies me as a unique entity on the system. This is also where biometrics are used. A finger print, an eye scan, an entire body scan. That is something you have, combined with something you know.

So, either Ghost went through the authentication system, in which case Ghost knows who he logged in as, and shouldn't be surprised by being referred to as that. Or, and this is my simple explanation, Ghost went around the authentication system, and security before or after identified us biometrically as Dr. Shim.

Our Guardians aren't Dr. Shim. Our Ghost is! :)

I've often thought that MY ghost is the traveller, it's essence put into a ghost. Everyone else's ghost is a decoy. :)

Now that would be an interesting twist.

Some people didn't like the Karen Travis novel either, Glasslands IIRC. But I've enjoyed every single one. Come to think, there are still a few I haven't read. Need to pick up that series about the forerunners.

So my complaints about Bears novels was that constant verbal stream of meaningless sci fi jibber jabber. Kind of the exact thing Destiny does.

No wonder I didn't like the storytelling of either.

Yes, even the 2nd one.

I think he is a good writter it was just . . . too murky? Reading about them slogging around the ring chapter after chapter was like wading through mud. I must have started and stopped reading that book 5 times now.

The game lacks story. If it didn't the cards would be this supplementary cool thing for the hardcore. There's not enough to supplement--that's the issue.

Indeed.

Although I wouldn't be opposed to an in-game Grimoire viewer by any means. The Reef was a perfect opportunity for Bungie to implement a feature like that.

At the same time I think there is a pretty strong need for cool backstory like this that isn't revealed on day one in a terminal or cutscene. And that isn't in game. Connecting the dots over time and watching stories like Thorn vs The Last Word and the story of The Ishtar Collective and perhaps the Exo Stranger come together is pretty neat. But on the flipside, I think to have such neat backstories Destiny really needs to work on its frontstory.

For instance, when we kill the Heart of the Black Garden we get a message from The Speaker saying Light is returning to The Traveler. Wut?? We knew The Traveler had been silent for a long time. We knew The Hive were attacking it via a captured shard of its shell. But we killed something in the Black Garden without really knowing what it was or what it was doing or why it was doing it. We went there to stop the Vex but we sorta accidentally fixed The Traveler too... except it still hasn't done anything over the first two expansions... even after having a big Tower ceremony at the end of the original story missions...

Describing the entire Reef Wars via in game cutscene would be way too much, but having the idea that what the Vex were doing in The Black Garden was affecting The Traveler get lost and muddled was way too little. The in-game story needs a solid shove to a place quite a bit more in between.

I don't think he really meant just taking the same text word-for-word and dumping it into the game. I don't think most of the people who talk about "putting the Grimoire content in the game" mean it literally in that way.

I guess that's just how I interpreted him saying (emphasis my own):
"Relegating this kind of deep and interesting lore to Pokemon cards that are not available in the game itself kills immersion."

Once you add in more basic story, and add in deep and interesting lore, exactly what are you not putting in there? This entire thread started with a story that revolved around a conversation between scientists eons ago. How do you slip that into Destiny without it being text? And if it's text, where do you put it?

Call me old fashioned, but I really don't mind reading, and think that many stories are told better as text. Do I think TLOTR movies are an incomplete telling of the story? Yes. Do I think all that info should have been squeezed into the movie? @#$% no. If you want to understand more about the movies, go read the books. And if you want to understand the books better, go read the Silmarillion, which is borderline written in Grimoire farm.

Now. Just as any movie adaptation of a book can be good, bad, or meh, I think that Destiny's game adaption of the story they obviously have written is meh bordering on bad. The example below of light returning to the travel is great. Some things were cut that shouldn't have been, some things were left in that should have been cut. I realize that the realities of game design do not allow for last minute editing of games the way they can with movies.

I do wish there was an alternative format for the cards. I'd like to sit down with them as a PDF and read them on my couch without having to flip through cards.

Grimoire would have been just fine had there been more meat to the campaign story.

Exactly, Grimoire cards are excellent at being what they are. The game needs more story. Different issue, really. The problem of the game not feeling like it has a narrative wouldn't be solved by allowing us to view Grimoire cards in the game.