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by Schedonnardus, Texas, Monday, June 15, 2015, 12:27 (3689 days ago)
http://petapixel.com/2015/06/14/photographer-captures-the-ruins-of-the-soviet-space-shuttle-program/
more images at the link.

The Cosmodrone IRL *imgs*
by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Monday, June 15, 2015, 12:58 (3689 days ago) @ Schedonnardus
http://petapixel.com/2015/06/14/photographer-captures-the-ruins-of-the-soviet-space-shuttle-program/
more images at the link.
Cool! I remember seeing other photos a while back that were more of the exterior and I was struck by how extremely flat and boring the landscape was (all the better to transport rockets, for sure).
Just goes to show, video games make reality better.
QED

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by stabbim , Des Moines, IA, USA, Monday, June 15, 2015, 13:20 (3689 days ago) @ Schedonnardus
Wow. I don't think the Russian government usually gives photographers access to places like this, most likely he had to sneak in. His write-up probably says what happened, but I don't know any Russian.
Those photos are so creepy. There's something really saddening about a program that got so far and just had to be abandoned. Lots of smart people worked very hard toward a dream that they probably could have reached if they'd been allowed the chance.
It's interesting how similar their shuttle looks to the American version. I wonder if that's because they intentionally copied ours (not a terrible idea, since that design was already known to work), or if they started on their own and that just happened to be the optimal design for a reusable orbiter, given the technology available at the time. Probably the former.

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by Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)
, London, Ontario, Canada, Monday, June 15, 2015, 14:24 (3689 days ago) @ stabbim
It's interesting how similar their shuttle looks to the American version. I wonder if that's because they intentionally copied ours (not a terrible idea, since that design was already known to work), or if they started on their own and that just happened to be the optimal design for a reusable orbiter, given the technology available at the time. Probably the former.
Mostly column "A", but a bit of "B". Wikipedia entry
-- Steve also regrets the abandonment, but in light of the Shuttle's not quite meeting its initial expectations* it was a reasonable decision to make.
* Shuttle alas never did realise the "cheap access" goal, because it took so much effort to refurbish an orbiter after every mission that the labour and part replacement costs ate up the savings over an expendable launcher. Pity, but them's the breaks.

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by uberfoop , Seattle-ish, Monday, June 15, 2015, 18:14 (3688 days ago) @ stabbim
It's interesting how similar their shuttle looks to the American version. I wonder if that's because they intentionally copied ours (not a terrible idea, since that design was already known to work)
Or perhaps a fairly terrible idea, since the Space Shuttle program had substantial financial and technical issues. It was ridiculously expensive to launch, the notion of being able to turn the craft around with fast and efficient maintenance wound up catastrophically underdelivering, and it wasn't a very reliable machine, being the vehicle for fourteen of the eighteen deaths that have ever occurred in spaceflight.

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by Vortech , A Fourth Wheel, Tuesday, June 16, 2015, 00:51 (3688 days ago) @ uberfoop
It's interesting how similar their shuttle looks to the American version. I wonder if that's because they intentionally copied ours (not a terrible idea, since that design was already known to work)
Or perhaps a fairly terrible idea, since <snip> and it wasn't a very reliable machine, being the vehicle for fourteen of the eighteen deaths that have ever occurred in spaceflight.
Ok, but I mean the system had like what, 130 missions and an average of like 10 days in flight per mission iirc? I mean, what portion of all U.S. space flight does that represent? Not to mention the highest crew capacity.

It's weird that that hangar is abandoned.
by Funkmon , Monday, June 15, 2015, 14:41 (3689 days ago) @ Schedonnardus
Considering that is a super busy spaceport. It's, AFAIK, the busiest spaceport in the world, just beating out Cape Canaveral. Imagine if there was a massive abandoned hangar at the Cape with some Ares I rockets lying around like that. That would be strange.

It's weird that that hangar is abandoned.
by Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)
, London, Ontario, Canada, Monday, June 15, 2015, 14:50 (3689 days ago) @ Funkmon
Considering that is a super busy spaceport. It's, AFAIK, the busiest spaceport in the world, just beating out Cape Canaveral. Imagine if there was a massive abandoned hangar at the Cape with some Ares I rockets lying around like that. That would be strange.
Not so strange after all. Old article from 2012, but still there were units at the KSC that sat vacant. It's not even a new problem; lots of Gemini and Apollo facilites are abandoned too.
-- Steve thinks the only reason Pad 39a (launch pad for the Moon landings) isn't a museum is that NASA leased it to SpaceX for the cash.

I don't think these are that similar.
by Funkmon , Monday, June 15, 2015, 15:33 (3689 days ago) @ Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)
Considering that is a super busy spaceport. It's, AFAIK, the busiest spaceport in the world, just beating out Cape Canaveral. Imagine if there was a massive abandoned hangar at the Cape with some Ares I rockets lying around like that. That would be strange.
Not so strange after all. Old article from 2012, but still there were units at the KSC that sat vacant. It's not even a new problem; lots of Gemini and Apollo facilites are abandoned too.-- Steve thinks the only reason Pad 39a (launch pad for the Moon landings) isn't a museum is that NASA leased it to SpaceX for the cash.
The second article is a little bit old. From what I remembered, and can tell from still looking from news articles, most of the spots have been leased, or are still for sale but not abandoned. Things being "at risk" of being abandoned is very different from these things actually being abandoned.
The things that are in that first article are not abandoned. Most of them are museums or open as historical things open for touring, though one is a launch pad no longer used (which makes sense, since those need to be modified to be used for different platforms), which is also very different than an entire hangar stuffed with old junk basically left to rot for a photographer to take pictures of.
I think that is weird.