While, surprisingly enough, coming to Luke's defense...

Read here!

I wish he would've mentioned that IN the article.

Am I missing something with this whole interview situation? I just don't see why everyone thinks Luke was being bad-tempered or behaved badly. I didn't care for the answers given, but only because it's the same sort of pretend-I-don't-see-the-problem stuff we always get from developers who are pressed on pricing questions. I didn't think Luke handled it badly compared to anyone else.

I do wish big developers felt like they could be honest with people about things like that, but they don't. A combination of PR policies and fear of the internet rage mobs keeps that from being a realistic expectation, I think.

Am I missing something with this whole interview situation? I just don't see why everyone thinks Luke was being bad-tempered or behaved badly. I didn't care for the answers given, but only because it's the same sort of pretend-I-don't-see-the-problem stuff we always get from developers who are pressed on pricing questions. I didn't think Luke handled it badly compared to anyone else.

I do wish big developers felt like they could be honest with people about things like that, but they don't. A combination of PR policies and fear of the internet rage mobs keeps that from being a realistic expectation, I think.

I see it the same way you do, I'm mostly annoyed at the way GI handled it since they painted it to look negative without any context.

I think it boils down to two things. One he said things that people didn't actually want to have him say. And two, that phrase about how he wanted to poke at the developer sounds intrinsically bad even if I think in context it had a slightly different meaning.

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I think it boils down to two things. One he said things that people didn't actually want to have him say. And two, that phrase about how he wanted to poke at the developer sounds intrinsically bad even if I think in context it had a slightly different meaning.

Also, Text vs video or even audio makes a HUGE difference. You start thinking the worst from the context.

I mean DBO wouldn't know anything about this right?

when being recorded. The way he talks doesn't translate as smoothly onto paper because he's doesn't have a PR filter. He's upfront, honest, and without things like tone to put words into context this kind of crap happens.

This is the same guy we were praising last week for his awesome video interview.

when being recorded. The way he talks doesn't translate as smoothly onto paper because he's doesn't have a PR filter. He's upfront, honest, and without things like tone to put words into context this kind of crap happens.

word substitution is fun. I mean if we can make excuses for luke, why not cody ;)

I've heard Cody is a awesome person to chat with in person! I hope I have that opportunity. :)

word substitution is fun. I mean if we can make excuses for luke, why not cody ;)

I'm certianly not trying to make excuses or telling anyone they don't have a right to feel a certain way. I am trying to remind us all of context. Also, not to make assumptions or point fingers, but guess who's website has generated a ton of traffic the last 24 hours? ;)

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Also, not to make assumptions or point fingers, but guess who's website has generated a ton of traffic the last 24 hours? ;)

...Right?

*Goes looks at front page.*

Ah... shit. My bad.

...but it wasn't great. I didn't need his opinions at the end throwing in all Destiny fans into an angry mob. And we apparently read Deej's tone very differently.

As it stands, I don't think Luke handled the interview perfectly, but I also think the interview was presented terribly.

I'm not in love with the Taken King package options; it's also nothing different than what games have been doing for a decade.

I'd love a compromise, but I don't think an uninformed, click-bait-journalism-fueled pitchfork mob is the way to make it happen, especially when the collector's edition is already sold out.

I think the biggest problem is how open Bungie is. The more open they are, like creating a weekly update to try and keep everyone in the loop, the more people want, the more entitled they feel, the more they complain. There's great feedback in that, but there's also a lot of overwhelming, distracting noise. I don't know.

all the butthurt about Bungie. People seem to take gaming way to seriously these days.

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He gets too much love here for my tastes.

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DeeJ is a cool guy. I think he does the best he can with what he has to work with, which sometimes isn't much.

DeeJ is a cool guy. I think he does the best he can with what he has to work with, which sometimes isn't much.

Not to mention, can you imagine being in his shoes? Holy shit, to have everything you say picked apart by the destiny community?

=-(i^2)

And Deej does a pretty good job at it. I would never want to be the spokes-hole for a much beloved company that is having advertising and marketing handled by Voldemort.

a much beloved company that is having advertising and marketing handled by Voldemort.

Nice to see snake people getting some representation in the industry, though.

Oh, sorry, I meant millennials.

DeeJ is a cool guy. I think he does the best he can with what he has to work with, which sometimes isn't much.

He gets a hard time online and doesn't deserve most of it, but cmon... "cool"???

I have disliked the tone of his writing for some time. I'm not sure when my feelings changed, but now everything he writes sounds condescending to me. This quote from the article sums up my feelings pretty well:
"Personally, I’m bugged more by DeeJ’s subsequent responses than I was by Smith’s initial comments. DeeJ is probably a perfectly charming man in real life, but he has always come off as a smarmy presence on Destiny’s various message boards, often responding to widespread player concerns with a jokey, condescending tone that feels out of touch with the community. His second response in particular stands out to me—how he’s sure to start by telling the person to whom he’s responding that the collector’s edition has sold out, before noting “but that’s not the point. Right?” The way he begins his promise of better rewards by telling us what “the real conversation here is,” as if the players who started this conversation need to be reminded what it is."

I have disliked the tone of his writing for some time. I'm not sure when my feelings changed, but now everything he writes sounds condescending to me. This quote from the article sums up my feelings pretty well:
"Personally, I’m bugged more by DeeJ’s subsequent responses than I was by Smith’s initial comments. DeeJ is probably a perfectly charming man in real life, but he has always come off as a smarmy presence on Destiny’s various message boards, often responding to widespread player concerns with a jokey, condescending tone that feels out of touch with the community. His second response in particular stands out to me—how he’s sure to start by telling the person to whom he’s responding that the collector’s edition has sold out, before noting “but that’s not the point. Right?” The way he begins his promise of better rewards by telling us what “the real conversation here is,” as if the players who started this conversation need to be reminded what it is."

I honestly usually appreciate his tone. Bungie has always been a little condescending and border-line insulting, it's part of the way they work, which I always find much more genuine than companies who act like a parent comforting their child (and often don't end up making any changes).

On an unrelated note though, I found his message to be more about the fact that people complain about the price, but it's already sold out, so it must not be THAT widespread of a complaint. The "the real conversation here is" was showing that Bungie (and DeeJ) KNOW what the issue is, not that he's reminding them.

I honestly usually appreciate his tone. Bungie has always been a little condescending and border-line insulting, it's part of the way they work, which I always find much more genuine than companies who acts like a parent comforting their child (and often don't end up making any changes).

I thought "nah..." and just went through the community guys I can remember vividly. Soell was like that. Frankie was like that. Lukems was definitely like that. KP wrote those things for like 6 months and he was like that. Uhhhh...I don't have any clear memories of anyone else.

You might be right.

I honestly usually appreciate his tone. Bungie has always been a little condescending and border-line insulting, it's part of the way they work, which I always find much more genuine than companies who acts like a parent comforting their child (and often don't end up making any changes).

I thought "nah..." and just went through the community guys I can remember vividly. Soell was like that. Frankie was like that. Lukems was definitely like that. KP wrote those things for like 6 months and he was like that. Uhhhh...I don't have any clear memories of anyone else.

You might be right.

Sketch was rarely like that - but he was definitely the exception. :)