With Destiny, it seems like we just consume. There aren't community projects like there were at HBO. Do we let the game dictate too much about what we get out of it?

Game nights at HBO were a thing. There were write-ups. It felt substantial. Here, we arrange our LFG, get our RNG, and the only related posts that tend to turn up on the forum are apologies for absences afterwards.

Huh. I always felt like CruelLEGACEY's write ups were exactly like what the HBO write ups were like.

And he's also been doing that Destiny Raider site. Yup, good stuff from him.

Heh. Do you really think the Destiny narrative is strong enough to give rise to interesting story discussion? I've seen about three really good ones over at reddit. Only THREE. And reddit is way bigger than MSP or HBO ever was.

Guardian Radio's lore segments have me thinking yes.

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I hope you and Claude realize I was talking in general, and not in absolutes.

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Sometimes, in my darkest moments, I wonder if Halo's story was good, or if the brilliant HBO community made it so.

H1 and H2, yes. H3 does a good job of taking the wind out of a ton of what came before it, but it does manage some good story at times. ODST has a great story. Reach's was mostly bad. Halo 4's is Star Wars prequel bad, but I don't know if that should be counted since it wasn't Bungie. Marathon's story was awesome. So, somewhere in there at some point long ago, Bungie did do some great things with stories. The Grimoire is awesome, but will that writing ever get transplanted into the game? If they can't get it together by Destiny 2, I suppose we'll know if that's all gone.

Now all you have to do is hope that they don't legitimately go the microtransaction route.

I don't know. Destiny is just a huge time sink to be able to play it the way I want to play it (with sweet stuff, and using that sweet stuff on all the hardest content). More than it should be.

I might be out either way. Dunno yet. I'll see if Trials cheers me up this weekend.

With Destiny, it seems like we just consume. There aren't community projects like there were at HBO. Do we let the game dictate too much about what we get out of it?

Game nights at HBO were a thing. There were write-ups. It felt substantial. Here, we arrange our LFG, get our RNG, and the only related posts that tend to turn up on the forum are apologies for absences afterwards.

Our forum is basically an auxiliary comments section for articles posted on other sites. There's no story discussion happening here.

We have become a dead thing made by a dead power in the shape of the dead.

...and there's just so little in that department. From the 10,000 foot view, most discussion here revolves around loot. Not story or speculation or whatever. Loot. Loot?

My very highest hope is that with much of the meta worked out in D1, Bungie pushes the story aspect in D2. I wonder though, in a game-world-style such as Destiny will story ever take center stage? Or does story live best in the single-player universe?

Sometimes, in my darkest moments, I wonder if Halo's story was good, or if the brilliant HBO community made it so.

That's sort of what happened with Marathon as well. We share some hopes and some dark moments.