the Gardener... (/-/ Rampant Speculation /-/)
We know The Traveler helped the Fallen and then something (almost certainly The Darkness) happened to them. I don't believe we know if The Traveler was there at the time. And it certainly doesn't seem like it left them destroyed. Variks recounts it as: "First , the Great Machine. Then, sky fell away. Whirlwind ripped away the past." Skolas said: "Remember the hope that brought us here. Remember the age before the Whirlwind, when ether ran free, when we ruled ourselves and our futures as kings."
In both cases it looks like The Fallen had a Golden Age. Maybe The Traveler abandoned the Fallen, or maybe it did what we're told it always did: "flicking from solar system to solar system, making grand plans, overseeing the culturing of civilizations, before leaving in a blink." and The Darkness came later?
That said, The Traveler has certainly pruned some gardens as well. It halted the Vex when they took over Mercury and started to take over Venus. It drove The Darkness out of our system to a large extent. So it does help and hurt, but so far it seems like it has only hurt the weeds...
Complete thread:
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-16, 14:27
- Orbital Mechanics Does not work that way! -
Durandal,
2015-07-16, 14:33
- Orbital Mechanics Does not work that way! -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-16, 14:45
- You know the correct year? - Ragashingo, 2015-07-16, 14:54
- Orbital Mechanics Does not work that way! -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-16, 14:45
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 14:55
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity - Ragashingo, 2015-07-16, 15:04
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Beorn,
2015-07-16, 16:02
- Ha, can't believe I never thought of that. - someotherguy, 2015-07-16, 16:05
- I wouldn't rotate 180 degrees, though... - ZackDark, 2015-07-16, 16:07
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
SilverBrin,
2015-07-16, 16:19
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Earendil,
2015-07-16, 16:24
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity - CyberKN, 2015-07-16, 16:27
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity - Ragashingo, 2015-07-16, 16:59
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Durandal,
2015-07-16, 16:28
- Reminds me of this gc. - iconicbanana, 2015-07-16, 16:39
- On Rasputin giving up -
Earendil,
2015-07-16, 17:07
- the Gardener... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-16, 18:30
- the Gardener... - Ragashingo, 2015-07-16, 18:47
- A Small Aside - Ragashingo, 2015-07-16, 19:13
- the Gardener... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-16, 18:30
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Earendil,
2015-07-16, 16:24
- ^ This ^ -
Earendil,
2015-07-16, 16:25
- probably flipped over to keep bird crap from falling in ;) -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 16:36
- THAT'S why it's white! - Xenos, 2015-07-16, 17:06
- Vex death goo, bird crap, same difference, amirite? - Kahzgul, 2015-07-16, 18:07
- probably flipped over to keep bird crap from falling in ;) -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 16:36
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-16, 17:36
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity - Ragashingo, 2015-07-16, 18:19
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 18:20
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Xenos,
2015-07-16, 18:25
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 19:11
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Xenos,
2015-07-16, 19:13
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 19:38
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity - Xenos, 2015-07-16, 19:40
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 19:38
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Xenos,
2015-07-16, 19:13
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-16, 19:11
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity - Ragashingo, 2015-07-16, 18:33
- I don't think the traveler cares about humanity -
Xenos,
2015-07-16, 18:25
- Orbital Mechanics Does not work that way! -
Durandal,
2015-07-16, 14:33