Both guns much less good after this DLC. (Destiny)

by Funkmon , Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 17:53 (3505 days ago) @ TheeChaos

They both have crap aim assist and are only useful for their impact. You can no longer do damage bonuses plus outlaw on Timur's lash, so it sucks for PvE. Litc and final round are useful on a PvP gun, but the fact is, when those proc, they're no better than on a Fulcrum, which has only one more shot and a much better fire rate and aim assist.

TL could have been a PVE beast, but they killed those rolls.

E Spear without final round is worse than a Benevolence for PVP. Low aim assist, fewer rounds in mag, longer time between shots, and extra impact is meaningless.

E Spear IS decent during PVE. Roll for extra ammo perks except mulligan and you're all right. I would still prefer Benevolence, because even though the impact is slightly less, your DPS is higher and it's easier to use.

If you're on the fence and considering running this for the guns, don't.