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On play styles and fun and weapons and other thoughts. (Destiny)

by cheapLEY @, Wednesday, July 29, 2015, 21:56 (3640 days ago)

The events of the last few weeks have set the hamster wheels in motion. It saddens me to see people leave the wonderful world of Destiny, although I respect the decision if the game is no longer appealing. But I do not want this post to be the same old thing we've heard over and over again, although I suspect some of that may happen anyway.

Today I want to look on the brighter side.

Something happened last night that I want to lead with. As I've been doing for the past month, I signed up for Kermit's Co-Op game night, wherein we split into Fireteams and do the Weekly Heroic and Nightfall strikes and other things, depending on what folks are in the mood for. One memorable evening saw Anton P. Nym and myself knocking out some wolf bounties, culminating in a memorable Defend the Warsat, pack of wolves, and Urzok battle (the wolves got away, unfortunately).

Last night I ran the Nightfall and Heroic strikes with Kermit and Lawnmower, and it was the most fun I've had doing strikes in quite a while. After going up the gravity lift during the Taniks strike, we spent six or seven minutes staring out the window, looking at the landscape of the moon, and realized you can totally see the patrol area, and the beginning of the Crota raid.

The best thing, however, was that we actually did both of the strikes, the full things. We didn't run past anything, we fought our way through all encounters during both Taniks and Winter's Run. It's the first time I've done that in months, and it was great.

And it made me realize that I've been playing Destiny wrong, at least partly (I've been slowly coming around to this conclusion for a while.) While I've never really been focused merely on getting the event rewards and hunting loot, I am guilty of taking the quickest way through strikes, mainly because when I started playing, I didn't have anyone on my friends list that also played. So I just went into the strike playlists, and that's how everyone does them. As quickly as possible. That's how I learned to play the game.

Now, I try not to play like that, or at least not as often. I've realized that Destiny is much, much more enjoyable when you stop chasing that Gjallarhorn or Hawkmoon, stop worrying about getting that Etheric Light. Just play the game to have fun.

I realize that sometimes this is difficult. I still want that Etheric Light so I can reach 34 and attempt to take on Skolas. I still want that Gjallarhorn because it looks like stupid fun to shred enemies to pieces. I still want all the things. But I've stopped being frustrated when I don't get the things. When the rewards start driving the gameplay so much, it's time to slow down.

Which brings me around to another thing I want to mention. I received a Hard Light from the Nightfall last night. This is my second Hard Light. The first one I received the first time I opened a PoE chest. I used it for all of the thirty minutes, decided it sucked, and sharded it. Now, I'm in love with it. I'm really glad I got another one. It's so much fun to use!

So I want to ask, what other weapons are just fun to use, even if they're not necessarily good? It seems like many of the weapons focus on being good weapons, with damage or accuracy perks, or Red Death's health regen, or what have you. Hard Light's ricochet is just stupid fun, and I wish there was more of this.

So basically, what I'm trying to say is this:

Destiny is super fun, once you get off the treadmill and focus on the little things. Bad weapons are fun. Not cheesing things is fun. You guys are fun.

After some of the things that have been going down lately, I just want to say that this place is awesome. Being a part of this community brings out the best in Destiny. It truly wouldn't be the same without you all.

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Fun guns that suck

by Funkmon @, Wednesday, July 29, 2015, 22:16 (3640 days ago) @ cheapLEY

Hard Light #1.

Followed by

P. Revenge in PvE
Dr. Nope
Invective (which we all know is good but still gets little use)
Light of the Abyss
Stranger's Rifle
Universal Remote

PvP
HL
Invective (again, still great with no use and it's fun)
The PoE exotics
Light of the abyss
Pocket infinity
Super good advice

Related to fun vs efficient: if I get an idea to do something in game, and I think that I would judge someone for doing it, like grinding anything or being super efficient, I refuse to do it, 100%. I will not let myself be that kind of player.

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Fun guns that suck

by stabbim @, Des Moines, IA, USA, Wednesday, July 29, 2015, 22:34 (3640 days ago) @ Funkmon

I have an Unwilling Soul (high RoF AR) which I re-rolled with Focused Fire, Extended Mag, and some stability perk (I forget which one at the moment). It's still not the best AR, but with Extended Mag it has 80-something rounds per magazine, and that takes a while to empty with Focused Fire. Plus the giant drum mag just looks cool sticking out of the bottom.

Dragon's Breath. I maintain that this is actually a good launcher, but of course it's not Gjallarhorn so everyone hates it. Sigh.

Also, it is my opinion that UR does not suck. It does have major limitations in terms of effective range, but that's only an issue if you're not playing a sunsinger. And for comparison, here is the list of other primary weapons which are capable of doing as much damage as UR in a quick burst:

*crickets*

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Fun guns that suck

by Funkmon @, Wednesday, July 29, 2015, 22:47 (3640 days ago) @ stabbim

I have an Unwilling Soul (high RoF AR) which I re-rolled with Focused Fire, Extended Mag, and some stability perk (I forget which one at the moment). It's still not the best AR, but with Extended Mag it has 80-something rounds per magazine, and that takes a while to empty with Focused Fire. Plus the giant drum mag just looks cool sticking out of the bottom.

Dragon's Breath. I maintain that this is actually a good launcher, but of course it's not Gjallarhorn so everyone hates it. Sigh.

Also, it is my opinion that UR does not suck. It does have major limitations in terms of effective range, but that's only an issue if you're not playing a sunsinger. And for comparison, here is the list of other primary weapons which are capable of doing as much damage as UR in a quick burst:

*crickets*

True about UR's damage, but in general I find it to be a subpar companion. I've tried UR primary, sniper secondary, but the middle range is too hard to get. The secondary shotguns are, IMO, almost universally better for PvE so when you're being slammed by a mid range enemy you can do something.

The damage is what makes it super fun. It's just too niche to be good.

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by red robber @, Crawfish Country, Wednesday, July 29, 2015, 22:57 (3640 days ago) @ stabbim

I have an Unwilling Soul (high RoF AR) which I re-rolled with Focused Fire, Extended Mag, and some stability perk (I forget which one at the moment). It's still not the best AR, but with Extended Mag it has 80-something rounds per magazine, and that takes a while to empty with Focused Fire. Plus the giant drum mag just looks cool sticking out of the bottom.

I had a Soul with the same setup, but I didn't like it, just too little impact. So I rolled a Similars Wrath (new version) with FF, Extended Mag (52 round), and Rangefinder. I really like it for Rumble in PvP. I can easily combat multiple enemies without reloading. Get this gun if you can.

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Fun guns that suck

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Thursday, July 30, 2015, 00:03 (3640 days ago) @ stabbim

Dragon's Breath. I maintain that this is actually a good launcher, but of course it's not Gjallarhorn so everyone hates it. Sigh.

Dragons Breath is really good, it would be great if it had a tracking option.

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by ProbablyLast, Thursday, July 30, 2015, 01:31 (3640 days ago) @ Funkmon
edited by ProbablyLast, Thursday, July 30, 2015, 01:38

Like grinding out 5k sidearm kills even though you hate the weapon type?

Related to fun vs efficient: if I get an idea to do something in game, and I think that I would judge someone for doing it, like grinding anything or being super efficient, I refuse to do it, 100%. I will not let myself be that kind of player.

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Fun guns that suck

by Funkmon @, Thursday, July 30, 2015, 02:04 (3640 days ago) @ ProbablyLast

There is a reason I haven't made much progress on that.

Fun guns that suck

by DreadPirateWes, Thursday, July 30, 2015, 14:32 (3639 days ago) @ Funkmon

I only use vestiian dynasty in arc burn nightfalls. It's pretty fun even though it does less damage than fatebringer.

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Specialist+Arc Burn. FTFY

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, July 30, 2015, 14:37 (3639 days ago) @ DreadPirateWes

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You know I <3 my Invective.

by TeejayF, Sunny California, Saturday, August 01, 2015, 13:03 (3637 days ago) @ Funkmon

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On play styles and fun and weapons and other thoughts.

by DreadPirateWes, Thursday, July 30, 2015, 14:36 (3639 days ago) @ cheapLEY

All the exotic shotguns are pretty fun -- Lord of wolves, Invective, Universal remote. They don't suck, but you always have a better option. Double shotgun in PoE is effective enough most of the time.

I also have fun with guns with triple tap. Fun to see the perk lighting up.

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Double shotgun is my favorite way to play the game.

by ProbablyLast, Thursday, July 30, 2015, 15:21 (3639 days ago) @ DreadPirateWes

If I was good enough to do it on nightfalls, it would be the only way I play.

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