Year 2 Livestream Thread (Destiny)
Bungie is starting their Twitch reveal shortly. Use this thread to comment and point out interesting things you notice.
This is the stream thread, please stop making new threads.
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I need Tyson's shirt.
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It's good to see Tyson again!
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It's not on the store, I looked ;_;
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didnt see eris in her usual location...
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Moved to at the bottom of the stairs to the Vanguard.
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I believe it was for the Pentathlon...
... but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be made available for us all! :D
Light level will affect your damage taken and damage done
Sounds like it makes it so you don't have to get to the next actual level (or previous light levels) to effectively do more damage, it's more incremental.
Refreshed bounties
Some even carry over across PVP and PVE
Spark of Light brings character to level 25 WITH gear
Level appropriate gear of course.
You know what would be cool? Beards. Come on Bungie.
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Change displayed weapon in tower with Y/Triangle
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+1
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Speaker will sell Ghost shells/class items with perks
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Very unique perks
Such as armor increased when using a solar class. Or better defense when a burn is active.
Did anyone see the perks on the machine gun?
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"Reforge Ready" perk was missing from the New Monarchy LMG
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or at least, the Dual hammer icon was.
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Yeah, stuff we've seen.
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"Reforge Ready" perk was missing from the New Monarchy LMG
Also, the "ascend" icon looked different.
Faction quests after hitting certain ranks
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Any Field Scout or Surplus? :3
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Nightfall level rewards from completing all weekly bounties
From Shaxx
Crucible perks on ghosts have glimmer boosts
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Don't think so. :P
I think it was Army of One, Small Bore, and another boring one.
Shaxx bounties? Those were weekly.
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Eww. Pledging my allegiance to DO again.
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Yeah I fixed it :)
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Unlimited earning of Legendary Marks every week. 200 wallet.
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Commendations for extra marks on 9/15
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Earn marks from dismantling legendaries
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Deej is at Marks cap, tries sharding for more Marks. /palm
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Confirmed: Legion of Boom new Tower Faction. XP
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Running gag about vault space is amusing.
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Missed something, or missing the joke
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Some year 1 exotics will have improved year 2 versions
And you have them unlocked in blueprints automatically if you have the year 1 version
Year 2 Exotics have different INT/DIS/STR Rolls
Light Beyond Nemesis had INT/DIS instead of Pure Strength.
They were joking about the new weapon color scheme.
"Oh yeah, I have no idea where these colors are from."
Odd. Year 2 Gun looks different. Not so for Armor?
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Year 2 Suros had old Thunderlord-esque Perk
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Cryptarch sells Legendary engrams for 60 Marks.
And yes, they can decrypt into exotics.
Does Cryptarch Rep even matter?
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Absolutely love the Banshee stuff.
Especially the stuff with the Weapons Foundries.
Can order guns that Gunsmith has available each week
Specifically from foundries
or annoying when your job pulls you away while waiting 4 it.
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class item only. 135? for weapons
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Infuse more powerful guns to make favorite guns better
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Vault space has been doubled. Boom.
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More Vault Space
Double weapon vault space. More than double armor.
SWORD!
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New dance moves
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I loved the apartment!
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SWORD! SWORD!
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The Sock Dispenser was sorta weird, though.
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Why was it in the kitchen?
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Yes, we love your chicken!
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Yeah, isn't everyone?
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FWC for Life.
Just look for Speedracer a week after TTK drops too, FWC is the best
Yeah, but the 15 day waiting period is outrageous!
Plus the background checks... man, such a hassle. Would be great if you could just get them from a vending machine, or the internet.
Why not go all the way?
Exotic Blueprints are cool… but why not go all the way and give us Legendary blueprints too? Bypass the vault issue entirely. Double the space is good, but it'll have to keep growing each year!
I thought the apartment would have been the perfect solution :-p
They have actually made them worse; good job Bungie!
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Looks like a giant iPad stuck to the wall.
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Why not go all the way?
Exotic Blueprints are cool… but why not go all the way and give us Legendary blueprints too? Bypass the vault issue entirely. Double the space is good, but it'll have to keep growing each year!
I thought the apartment would have been the perfect solution :-p
Since Legendary guns and below can be given to you with different perks, it may be more difficult to catalog not only all the Lengendaries but also all their variants. Sounds like a UI mess. :)
Confirmed: Deej is filthy casual
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Why not go all the way?
Exotic Blueprints are cool… but why not go all the way and give us Legendary blueprints too? Bypass the vault issue entirely. Double the space is good, but it'll have to keep growing each year!
Because Legendaries all have different rolls. Would you like to have a Blueprint for every single roll possible for a weapon?
I thought the apartment would have been the perfect solution :-p
A clan dojo, like certain other games have would have been even better. Statues of the founding Guardians! Clan Objectives! Resource donations for Research! 1v1 combat room! Clan Wars!
Did they ever mention ranks for the quests?
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Why not go all the way?
Exotic Blueprints are cool… but why not go all the way and give us Legendary blueprints too? Bypass the vault issue entirely. Double the space is good, but it'll have to keep growing each year!
Because Legendaries all have different rolls. Would you like to have a Blueprint for every single roll possible for a weapon?
If you like your roll, keep it in the vault. Otherwise dismantle it. But you want it back! Make it from a blueprint with default perks. Reroll it again if you want. Either that or have the game just keep one legendary blueprint per weapon, and if you get another ask if you want to replace it.
Why not go all the way?
Have it just be a default version. If you take it out, you can reroll it after all.
I would actually be ok with this. Only for the simple fact that once you acquired the blueprint then other weapons would have a higher chance at dropping.
Is it just me or...
Did everyone look/sound tired?
Frontier Shell?
I was kind of disappointed that some of those Ghosts had the same look as the Frontier Shell. :-\ Wonder if they’re going to update it with perks and such…
FWC for Life.
Just look for Speedracer a week after TTK drops too, FWC is the best
Agreed, but they have no sense of style man.
Energy definitely seemed low.
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Nightfall level rewards from completing all weekly bounties
From Shaxx
I still kind of feel the same way as I used to about crucible bounties. Wouldn't this make it worse since now there's tons of reason to do them? If it's anything other than winning, won't you have people on your team trying to satisfy the bounty conditions, possibly to the detriment of you?
My thoughts as well.
For a brief second Deej put the cursor over the Frontier shell. Didn't screen cap it. Waiting for Youtube.
Two immediate questions about the exotic blueprints
(1) If I have a specific roll for my year one Light Beyond Nemesis (Strength 130) and I shard it, will the copy I can buy in the Exotic Blueprint console retain the 130 roll? If later on I receive a Light Beyond Nemesis drop with a higher Strength 135 roll, will my blueprint update to the new value?
I'm assuming the answer to that one is "yes", but it'd be nice to be sure.
(2) If I've leveled that Light Beyond Nemesis to fill out all perks, I will have spent 75 armor parts, an exotic shard, and a great deal of experience and glimmer (time). If I shard that helmet and then later decide to purchase it from the Exotic Blueprint console for 125 Legendary marks, will I receive a leveled copy with all perks unlocked, or will it require the same (considerable) effort and expense to level again before it becomes fully useful?
Given Bungie's general attitude toward player time requirements, I'm guessing that the answer to that is "no" - we'd have to level it again. Which makes sharding exotic items that I've already leveled to free up vault space unwise - IMHO it would cost too much of my time and effort to rebuild what I'd already done, I'll just have to keep wasting vault space storing all my exotics.
SWORD.
SWORD!
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Two immediate questions about the exotic blueprints
(2) If I've leveled that Light Beyond Nemesis to fill out all perks, I will have spent 75 armor parts, an exotic shard, and a great deal of experience and glimmer (time). If I shard that helmet and then later decide to purchase it from the Exotic Blueprint console for 125 Legendary marks, will I receive a leveled copy with all perks unlocked, or will it require the same (considerable) effort and expense to level again before it becomes fully useful?
Given Bungie's general attitude toward player time requirements, I'm guessing that the answer to that is "no" - we'd have to level it again. Which makes sharding exotic items that I've already leveled to free up vault space unwise - IMHO it would cost too much of my time and effort to rebuild what I'd already done, I'll just have to keep wasting vault space storing all my exotics.
I have MANY exotic weapons that have one or less upgrades unlocked. I'd be just fine losing that progress to free up some space. But it would suck for ones I've nearly fully upgraded.
Tyson seemed like he was having fun.
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SWORD?!
Infuse more powerful guns to make favorite guns better
My understanding was "improve existing guns using a more powerful gun." It looked like you need to sacrifice a gun with a higher attack rating than the gun you're improving, and it would raise the weaker gun up to the attack value of the sacrificed gun. Essentially Ascension without the etheric light. If my understanding is correct and this mechanic is usable immediately, there must be at least 2 possible attack values for legendary TTK guns.
Dreams do come true.
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Is it just me or...
I think they just had a lot of bulletins to hit so there wasn't much time for fun spontaneousness (even the vault build-up seemed planned), but they made me a smile a couple of times despite that.
Two immediate questions about the exotic blueprints
You're right, I'm sure a lot of folks have unleveled (or near unleveled) exotics and this would let them save space until they decide to level them. I'm an edge case with every (XBox) exotic weapon and armor ascended and maxed, so the blueprints do nothing for my vault space issue.
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful
Still waiting.
You can definitely reforge *something*
I saw it flash up briefly when they were looking at the Gunsmith's stock. Pretty sure someone even said "oops" when it came up.
You can definitely reforge *something*
Deej's weapons were all HoW Dead Orbit stuff. The Reforge option for all three was in the Gunsmith's inventory.
I recently maxxed every single Exotic
It was no small undertaking. I only finished yesterday. I'd really rather not have to do it again, though I suppose no one is forcing me .
Still, I'm much less likely to re-obtain some items. The Arachnid will be first to go.
Nightfall level rewards from completing all weekly bounties
I dont think so. They werent anything crazy. Win 7 matches, do 3 dailys over the course of 3 days, getting points by winning games. Its not like getting headshots with sniper rifles, the other vendor has those. I am really excited to have a Crucible way to get ensured high tier drops. Just doing the nightfall got old. Now I can play at my own pace and do this. I dont have to get a team together!
Super important gear question that's not been answered...
The Makeshift Scarf...
I don't want to wear a hood. Given that they now contain defense stats that affect your light level, how much of a negative impact will that have on my character?
Would there be no way to infuse them?
Could we get other, non-hooded scarves?
No capes!
(To a lesser extent, I rarely wear butt towels with the Titan. Same issue tho.)
I recently maxxed every single Exotic
If I'm right and the blueprints don't store weapon progression, you'll need to keep all leveled exotics in your vault or character inventory (63 items). You'll only use the blueprint screen to buy new versions of existing exotics, but once you start leveling those you'll need to hang onto them in your inventory (another 26 exotics for a total of 89).
It's a good thing the vault space was doubled, I'll need half just to store my leveled exotics. Honestly the exotic changes have raised far more questions than answers for me.
Yeah, but the 15 day waiting period is outrageous!
Come see me. I can make you a deal in the parking lot.
They have actually made them worse; good job Bungie!
I like some of the dances, but the ones shown are rather...silly.
SWORD?! SWORD! SWORD!
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They looked like a teenage raver hopped up on E and Redbull™
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I recently maxxed every single Exotic
If I'm right and the blueprints don't store weapon progression, you'll need to keep all leveled exotics in your vault or character inventory (63 items). You'll only use the blueprint screen to buy new versions of existing exotics, but once you start leveling those you'll need to hang onto them in your inventory (another 26 exotics for a total of 89).
It's a good thing the vault space was doubled, I'll need half just to store my leveled exotics. Honestly the exotic changes have raised far more questions than answers for me.
You know, you don't HAVE to pull out every single Blueprint at once...
Even if you were to unload en entire character's weapons into the vault, that's only 27 slots.
Do things piecemeal and only what you plan to use.
Which reminds me.
We need a Redbull™ quest of dancing for 24 hours straight at the jukebox. This should be the only way to earn the radiant dance machines.
NO CAPES!!!!
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Here ya go Beorn.
SWORD!
SWORD!
Yay!
They meant to cover Artifacts, will cover them next week
Is it just me or...
Despite it's ridiculousness, they made me smile too.
I bet . . .
I'm betting more than two attack values. I bet it's somewhat similar to vanilla Destiny. Remember how you found Light Level? How it trickled in, finding gear with like 8 Light, then finding some with 15, then 18, etc, until the Raid Gear was the top tier gear.
I bet that happens all over again with Attack and Defense values as we go through TTK, with end game activities (especially the Raid) giving the most powerful gear.
+1000
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Thanks :)
It's not nothin, I guess.
you fools!
Suros Regime should always be red and white as God intended. You screwed up the most beautiful gun in the game. Sigh.
Just you?
Did everyone look/sound tired?
I think they sounded like professional adults doing their jobs, rather than screaming manchildren hopped up on energy drinks. That was a definite improvement on previous streams.
Defense 3 (it'll noticeably sink your Light level)
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Agreed. Suros 2.0 is uuuuuuugly.
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+1
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Agreed. Suros 2.0 is prettttttty. (FTFY)
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Exo Beard FTW!
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Defense 3 (it'll noticeably sink your Light level)
Hopefully it's just a bonus to your average. simple example
avg
lvl cnt gear
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100 1 helmet
100 1 arms
100 1 chest
100 1 legs
003 0 ghost shell
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403 / 4 = 100.75 -> 101 light
Edit: Versus:
avg
lvl cnt gear
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100 1 helmet
100 1 arms
100 1 chest
100 1 legs
003 1 ghost shell
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403 / 5 = 80.6 -> 81 light
Agreed. Suros 2.0 is pretty ugly. (FTFY)
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N7 livery is best livery (FTFEveryone)
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I recently maxxed every single Exotic
Even if you were to unload en entire character's weapons into the vault, that's only 27 slots.
Do things piecemeal and only what you plan to use.
It looks as if pulling an item requires materials. Year One exotics required an exotic Shard, and Year two revisions Legendary marks. So, it's not like the blueprints are free vault space. You're still going to want to have stuff in the Vault.