People are different. Probably best to accept that. (Destiny)
I think his point is that it's NOT an accomplishment. Hell, those 29s might have played more and been better players than you, you just got lucky drops that allowed you to get to 30 before them.
Like I said, this is nothing to do with the rate at which people get rewarded in the game. The point of investment systems (and why they are so wildly popular across different games) is that there is a concrete and visible result of the progress or time you put into the game. People appreciate when they are able to complete things (even if a part of that completion relied on RNG), and that's okay. By getting to the max level at some point you have still accomplished something (by putting in time, being somewhat decent at the game, and relying on RNG), even if you personally don't appreciate that accomplishment. Your caring or not caring about what level you are doesn't diminish others' caring of what they accomplished, or it shouldn't anyway. You can not care all your want, but telling other people they shouldn't enjoy what they see as an accomplishment is just strange.
Not trying to be a dick, I've just never really understood the attitude. It's the same thing as people who got Gjallarhorn being pissed when Xur sold it and saying, "Well I earned mine." No, you didn't. We literally did the exact same thing for months, you just go lucky.
I enjoy the competition between myself and my friends in life, and I find that competition in lots of different ways. Some of those accomplishment are a direct reflector of skill; I tend to care more about those. Some of those accomplishments reflect time put in rather than skill and, while I don't care as much about those, it's still fun to care along with my friends.
What you are talking about with Gjallarhorn is people putting other people down, rather than holding themselves up. I hope I am not putting anyone's enjoyment down, I'm just explaining where some of mine comes from.
Complete thread:
- BWU 08/27/15 -
CyberKN,
2015-08-27, 21:53
- Wow -
Monochron,
2015-08-27, 22:06
- But what WILL it do? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-27, 23:21
- But what WILL it do? -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-27, 23:32
- And I'm glad they're listening -
ZackDark,
2015-08-27, 23:39
- And I'm glad they're listening - Cody Miller, 2015-08-28, 00:10
- And I'm glad they're listening -
General Vagueness,
2015-08-28, 16:45
- Heh, "coy" - ZackDark, 2015-08-28, 19:22
- And I'm glad they're listening -
stabbim,
2015-08-28, 19:56
- And I'm glad they're listening - General Vagueness, 2015-08-28, 21:16
- But what WILL it do? -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 02:06
- But what WILL it do? -
stabbim,
2015-08-28, 03:06
- You might be reading it wrong -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-08-28, 03:27
- You might be reading it wrong -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-28, 12:13
- You might be reading it wrong -
CyberKN,
2015-08-28, 12:34
- You might be reading it wrong -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-28, 12:59
- You might be reading it wrong - stabbim, 2015-08-28, 19:51
- You might be reading it wrong -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-28, 12:59
- You might be reading it wrong -
CyberKN,
2015-08-28, 12:34
- You might be reading it wrong -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-28, 12:13
- But what WILL it do? -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 12:00
- But what WILL it do? - stabbim, 2015-08-28, 19:57
- You might be reading it wrong -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-08-28, 03:27
- But what WILL it do? -
stabbim,
2015-08-28, 03:06
- And I'm glad they're listening -
ZackDark,
2015-08-27, 23:39
- But what WILL it do? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-27, 23:50
- Rereading it... - ZackDark, 2015-08-28, 00:05
- But what WILL it do? -
stabbim,
2015-08-28, 03:14
- But what WILL it do? - DreadPirateWes, 2015-08-28, 03:29
- But what WILL it do? -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-27, 23:32
- Yikes. -
narcogen,
2015-08-27, 23:59
- Everything you said I agree with, except heroic playlist - Funkmon, 2015-08-28, 00:04
- Yikes. - Cody Miller, 2015-08-28, 00:16
- Yikes. -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 02:01
- This feeling is meaningless -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 11:25
- Don't apologize, you are right. - ProbablyLast, 2015-08-28, 11:38
- No -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 11:57
- Yes -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-28, 12:21
- Exactly -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 12:35
- Walking on a treadmill is hard. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-08-28, 12:36
- Exactly -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 12:51
- Pushing down -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 13:11
- Pushing down - Monochron, 2015-08-28, 13:18
- Pushing down -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 13:11
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 12:47
- Because we do not all live in vacuums -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 12:56
- Because we do not all live in vacuums - MacAddictXIV, 2015-08-28, 13:06
- Because we do not all live in vacuums - Monochron, 2015-08-28, 13:07
- Do you... Do you wanna talk about it? -
someotherguy,
2015-08-28, 15:43
- The achievement heat death of the universe -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 16:02
- Bleep Bloop -
someotherguy,
2015-08-28, 16:20
- You need to clear the universe's cache for it to pop. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-28, 16:25
- You've made it to the end of the universe on easy mode - kidtsunami, 2015-08-28, 18:44
- You need to clear the universe's cache for it to pop. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-28, 16:25
- Bleep Bloop -
someotherguy,
2015-08-28, 16:20
- The achievement heat death of the universe -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 16:02
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-28, 13:07
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 13:12
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 13:14
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 13:29
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. - kidtsunami, 2015-08-28, 13:41
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 13:29
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 13:14
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
Monochron,
2015-08-28, 13:12
- People are different. Probably best to accept that. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 14:25
- haha I knew you'd agree with me on this one - kidtsunami, 2015-08-28, 14:38
- Yup. I want that too! - Monochron, 2015-08-28, 16:23
- Because we do not all live in vacuums -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 12:56
- Exactly -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 12:35
- No -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 12:41
- No - Monochron, 2015-08-28, 12:54
- Yes -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-28, 12:21
- This feeling is meaningless -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-28, 11:25
- Yikes. -
stabbim,
2015-08-28, 03:47
- Yikes. - narcogen, 2015-08-29, 02:45
- Yikes. -
ProbablyLast,
2015-08-28, 07:08
- Yikes. - Funkmon, 2015-08-28, 07:29
- Yikes. - General Vagueness, 2015-08-28, 17:06
- Wow - Schedonnardus, 2015-08-28, 14:13
- But what WILL it do? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-27, 23:21
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" -
Kahzgul,
2015-08-27, 23:35
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-28, 00:10
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" -
Kahzgul,
2015-08-28, 01:03
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-28, 01:14
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" - Monochron, 2015-08-28, 02:05
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" - cheapLEY, 2015-08-28, 01:14
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-28, 01:14
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" -
Kahzgul,
2015-08-28, 01:03
- "You have to defeat Oryx before unlocking endgame content" -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-28, 00:10
- Dislike those nightfall changes -
electricpirate,
2015-08-28, 01:04
- +10 - Oholiab, 2015-08-28, 01:57
- Dislike those nightfall changes -
stabbim,
2015-08-28, 03:29
- Dislike those nightfall changes -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 04:12
- It's a combination of both - ZackDark, 2015-08-28, 13:18
- Dislike those nightfall changes -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 04:12
- It's like this - Durandal, 2015-08-28, 15:10
- Wow -
Monochron,
2015-08-27, 22:06