
Who wants to try for the rarest treasure of all? (Destiny)
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 14:59 (3468 days ago)
With only two weeks left before our year one legendaries go the way of AOL and Palm Pilot, who wants to go for the ever elusive:
SOLAR SIX DREG PRIDE II?
There's 6 chances between now and Taken King. This of course doubles as a Hawkmoon chance since I have keys.

Who wants to try for the rarest treasure of all?
by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 16:45 (3468 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Wait, what? I'm unfamiliar with this gun. Lighthouse??

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by RaichuKFM , Northeastern Ohio, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 16:47 (3468 days ago) @ Ragashingo
I have no idea why it being Solar, specifically, should mean anything in particular over simply elemental at all.
Or why Six Dreg Pride is itself more special than any other PoE gun.
Edit: Maybe it can just only come in Solar? I don't really know how the II weapons work.

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by bluerunner , Music City, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 17:14 (3468 days ago) @ RaichuKFM
I have no idea why it being Solar, specifically, should mean anything in particular over simply elemental at all.
Or why Six Dreg Pride is itself more special than any other PoE gun.
Edit: Maybe it can just only come in Solar? I don't really know how the II weapons work.
Fatebringer - arc
Word of Crota - void
There isn't a solar hand cannon from the raids. Six Dreg Pride or Jewel of Osiris from Skolas or the Lighthouse are the only ways to get one.

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 17:15 (3468 days ago) @ RaichuKFM
I have no idea why it being Solar, specifically, should mean anything in particular over simply elemental at all.
Or why Six Dreg Pride is itself more special than any other PoE gun.
Edit: Maybe it can just only come in Solar? I don't really know how the II weapons work.
Because there are no other potential solar hand canons besides Six Dreg and Jewel, and Six Dreg is a lot rarer.

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by MacAddictXIV , Seattle WA, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 17:19 (3468 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Because there are no other potential solar hand canons besides Six Dreg and Jewel, and Six Dreg is a lot rarer.
But for someone of my skill sets, it's not necessarily harder to get...

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by Chappy, Arlington, VA., Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 17:45 (3468 days ago) @ MacAddictXIV
Because there are no other potential solar hand canons besides Six Dreg and Jewel, and Six Dreg is a lot rarer.
But for someone of my skill sets, it's not necessarily harder to get...
Want to do a XBone Skolas run Wed or Thursday night?

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by MacAddictXIV , Seattle WA, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 17:47 (3468 days ago) @ Chappy
Because there are no other potential solar hand canons besides Six Dreg and Jewel, and Six Dreg is a lot rarer.
But for someone of my skill sets, it's not necessarily harder to get...
Want to do a XBone Skolas run Wed or Thursday night?
I could possibly do it Wednesday Night, but the earlier the better for me.

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by Chappy, Arlington, VA., Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 18:07 (3468 days ago) @ MacAddictXIV
Because there are no other potential solar hand canons besides Six Dreg and Jewel, and Six Dreg is a lot rarer.
But for someone of my skill sets, it's not necessarily harder to get...
Want to do a XBone Skolas run Wed or Thursday night?
I could possibly do it Wednesday Night, but the earlier the better for me.
I'll set up a fireteam event for 7pm Eastern; let me know if that works for you

Six Dreg Pride is the PoE Hand Cannon, isn't it?
by MacAddictXIV , Seattle WA, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 18:10 (3468 days ago) @ Chappy
Because there are no other potential solar hand canons besides Six Dreg and Jewel, and Six Dreg is a lot rarer.
But for someone of my skill sets, it's not necessarily harder to get...
Want to do a XBone Skolas run Wed or Thursday night?
I could possibly do it Wednesday Night, but the earlier the better for me.
I'll set up a fireteam event for 7pm Eastern; let me know if that works for you
Out of all the times, that is pretty much perfect :-)

Who wants to try for the rarest treasure of all?
by JDQuackers
, McMurray, PA, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 16:50 (3468 days ago) @ Ragashingo
Each Primary in Prison of Elders has a "II" version which deals Elemental damage.
"II" weapons are acquired via random drop, after completing the level 35 Arena Challenge Skolas's Revenge.
[Source]

Who wants to try for the rarest treasure of all?
by Chappy, Arlington, VA., Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 17:10 (3468 days ago) @ JDQuackers
Each Primary in Prison of Elders has a "II" version which deals Elemental damage.
"II" weapons are acquired via random drop, after completing the level 35 Arena Challenge Skolas's Revenge.
[Source]
The drop rate for Skolas reward weapons is pretty terrible. That being said, I wouldn't mind giving this a go later in the week on the XBox One if anyone is interested.

I have one. You'll be disappointed.
by Funkmon , Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 18:24 (3468 days ago) @ Cody Miller
I also have a few solar Jewels, and those are way worse, so at least it's better than those.

I have one. You'll be disappointed.
by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 18:49 (3468 days ago) @ Funkmon
I also have a few solar Jewels, and those are way worse, so at least it's better than those.
Jewel is great. Do you not Icarus? While Titan jumping it's great. While bouncing around with quadruple jump it's great!

I love my Solar Jewel!
by CruelLEGACEY , Toronto, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 19:43 (3468 days ago) @ Funkmon
Handles beautifully, hits like a truck. Not as flashy as some weapons, but I love it for its simplicity and pure stopping power (it eats wizards alive).

Agreed. Jewel is my favorite PvP Hand Cannon.
by Xenos , Shores of Time, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 19:53 (3468 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY
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Hows it compare to TDYK or Thorn?
by dogcow , Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 19:57 (3468 days ago) @ Xenos
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Hows it compare to TDYK or Thorn?
by Xenos , Shores of Time, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 19:59 (3468 days ago) @ dogcow
It's been a long time since I've used TDYK, so I can't compare it to well, but with perfect balance it has amazing stability, kills in 3 shots as long as one of them is a headshot, and Icarus makes it so you can reliably hit someone even while jumping (just don't count on getting headshots reliably). If you've used Fulcrum at all it is very similar, just with the advantage of having perfect balance. Oh, PLUS it has third eye.

Stop it. Now I wish I had one. :)
by dogcow , Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:00 (3468 days ago) @ Xenos
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It *feels* virtually identical to Fatebringer...
by CruelLEGACEY , Toronto, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:13 (3468 days ago) @ dogcow
... but with perks that are better suited to PvP. And it has better range than Fatebringer.

I love my Solar Jewel!
by Funkmon , Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 19:56 (3468 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY
I disagree with you on all points. It does no more damage than any medium high impact hand cannon, giving me no real reason to use it over other guns, its small magazine size makes killing yellow enemies difficult, and its recoil curve isn't up/down like the other hand cannons, but way off to the left. I have much greater success using Vision of Confluence.
6 dreg pride, in addition to having a normal recoil curve, does as much damage, but critically also holds 12 shots so I can at least kill a guy with it. It's the better gun for my gameplay.
PVP is different, but in general, the point is moot because neither of these hand cannons are an ideal PVP choice, where you would want a Red Hand for auto aim, word of Crota for TTK, fulcrum for mini hawkmoon, etc. Unless it's your only legendary hand cannon, it won't come up except for fun. And it's not fun to me.

Word ?
by dogcow , Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:00 (3468 days ago) @ Funkmon
PVP is different, but in general, the point is moot because neither of these hand cannons are an ideal PVP choice, where you would want a Red Hand for auto aim, word of Crota for TTK, fulcrum for mini hawkmoon, etc. Unless it's your only legendary hand cannon, it won't come up except for fun. And it's not fun to me.
Word of Crota has a good TTK? I did not have much success when I tried that gun in PvP for my latest Thorn bounty; Slycrel was just complaining to me about how long it took to kill in Iron Banner w/ it.

Word.
by Korny , Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:08 (3468 days ago) @ dogcow
PVP is different, but in general, the point is moot because neither of these hand cannons are an ideal PVP choice, where you would want a Red Hand for auto aim, word of Crota for TTK, fulcrum for mini hawkmoon, etc. Unless it's your only legendary hand cannon, it won't come up except for fun. And it's not fun to me.
Word of Crota has a good TTK? I did not have much success when I tried that gun in PvP for my latest Thorn bounty; Slycrel was just complaining to me about how long it took to kill in Iron Banner w/ it.
Yeah, no Idea what he's talking about. As an expert in all things hand cannon, I've always hated Word of Crota. Recoil is ridiculous, accuracy is crap, and damage is laughable. As far as PvE goes, a void Jewel trumps it in all respects. Less ammo per mag, yes, but less wasted/marshmallow rounds. I don't use my jewels much (I prefer my elemental Messengers and Scholars), but that's mostly because of how fast they burn through ammo. That said, the rounds almost always land on target, and they pack a heavy punch (most if not all crits).
Dammit Korny
by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:31 (3468 days ago) @ Korny
Word.
My page hadn't refreshed, I swear. This is almost as embarrassing as that time I ate an entire family of Zebra by accident.
Dammit Korny
by marmot 1333 , Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 21:07 (3468 days ago) @ someotherguy
And now you're banned from the zoo... For life!
Word.
by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:29 (3468 days ago) @ dogcow
Yep, it requires two headshots, but as all non-exotic handcannons take 3 shots to kill, the fastest Handcannon is King.

Jewel of Osiris has better auto aim than Red Hand
by Xenos , Shores of Time, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:02 (3468 days ago) @ Funkmon
90 vs 89
But can't roll Hidden Hand
by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:07 (3468 days ago) @ Xenos
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But if I'm rerolling perks I'd rather have Outlaw.

I love my Solar Jewel!
by CruelLEGACEY , Toronto, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 20:08 (3468 days ago) @ Funkmon
I disagree with you on all points. It does no more damage than any medium high impact hand cannon, giving me no real reason to use it over other guns, its small magazine size makes killing yellow enemies difficult, and its recoil curve isn't up/down like the other hand cannons, but way off to the left. I have much greater success using Vision of Confluence.
It has better range and accuracy than most hand cannons, which helps mitigate the middling clip size. Doesn't hit quite as hard as Timur's Lash or Hawkmoon, but has a faster rate of fire. You're right about the recoil, but I still find it stable enough to be quite effective from mid-long range. I know lots of people love Vision of Confluence, but it just doesn't click with me. I like SRs on both ends of the spectrum: fast/ weak, or slow/powerful. VoC is too middle of the road for me.
6 dreg pride, in addition to having a normal recoil curve, does as much damage, but critically also holds 12 shots so I can at least kill a guy with it. It's the better gun for my gameplay.
I thought 6 Dreg Pride had lower impact than Jewel, but I could be wrong about that. I had a non-elemental version a couple months ago and sharded it because it didn't stand out in any way. Although I can totally see how an elemental version would give an adept Jewel a run for its money.
PVP is different, but in general, the point is moot because neither of these hand cannons are an ideal PVP choice, where you would want a Red Hand for auto aim, word of Crota for TTK, fulcrum for mini hawkmoon, etc. Unless it's your only legendary hand cannon, it won't come up except for fun. And it's not fun to me.
I actually do quite well with Jewel in PvP. It doesn't go toe to toe with Thorn, but I can out-duel most Hawkmoons, TDYKs, etc. It fires faster than most, great range and accuracy, and hits hard enough to deliver an easy 3 shot kill.

They are identical except in range
by Durandal, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 22:22 (3468 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY
The Jewel has 10 more range then Pride, but otherwise the two are identical stat wise. Icarus and 3rd Eye are probably better then Army of One and Vandal burn, which is what I have on mine in PVP. Army of One is really handy in PVE though.
I love my Solar Jewel!
by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 23:55 (3468 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY
It fires faster than most, great range and accuracy, and hits hard enough to deliver an easy 3 shot kill.
Actually, it fires faster than literally only two Legendary handcannons. All other handcannons fire at the same speed or faster.
Iy does less PvE damage than a comparable handcannon with Explosive rounds (actually it does less than even a faster/weaker model with Ex. rounds), and has less auto-aim than a comparable handcannon with Hidden Hand. It's a nice weapon, but it fills no niche, and you could easily roll a superior Red Hand or Fulcrum.
Edit: Of course, Six Dreg Pride is nothing special either. Both only worth having for Solar burn, IMO.

Not Void Messenger, not interested
by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 23:28 (3468 days ago) @ Cody Miller
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