Helm of Inmost Light
Celestial Nighthawk
Apotheosis Veil
No Land Beyond
Exotic Body Armor Engram

Plasma Drive
Emerald Coil
Heavy Ammo Synth

He's chilling with the Crucible Quartermaster.

**Protip**
- For only 27 Strange Coins you can level up a faction with the Nightfall Buff. You need 81 Heavy Ammo Synths per level with the Buff. If you are close to rank 25 I would recommend doing this so you can start your faction quest.

Can't have people getting geared up for the raid that easily.

So it'll take 27 strange coins per level.

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I mean, I do know why but I think it is silly.

I leveled up dead orbit two ranks last night and finally got Bittersteel. Besides the new ship and exotic bond I'm close to being DO complete on my warlock. Only at rank 47 too.

- For only 27 Strange Coins you can level up a faction with the Nightfall Buff. You need 81 Heavy Ammo Synths per level with the Buff. If you are close to rank 25 I would recommend doing this so you can start your faction quest.

only 81 heavy ammo synths? That's 405 gally rockets down the drain. Think i'll take my time.

Does heavy ammo level you up more than the motes, materials and weapons parts exchanges?

I have three dead orbit shaders, all Bittersteel. The worst one.

only 81 heavy ammo synths? That's 405 gally rockets down the drain. Think i'll take my time.

Does heavy ammo level you up more than the motes, materials and weapons parts exchanges?

Heavy Ammo is the easiest way to gain rep in my opinion since you can use strange coins (which are somewhat useless when you have 300+ of them already).

You can buy rep with 5 motes of light, which are good for reforging items, buying engrams, etc...

I believe it's 4 Special Synths which are somewhat harder to acquire now, but cost way more glimmer to buy then heavy if you use strange coins

you can also trade in armor materials and weapon parts for rep.

5 motes = 100 (125 w/NF) rep
25 armor or weapon parts = 50 (62) rep
Heavy ammo synth = 25 (31) rep
4 special ammo synth = 25 (31) rep

Isn't the nightfall boost going away next week? I vaguely recall reading that.

Isn't the nightfall boost going away next week? I vaguely recall reading that.

Yeah, they are trying to figure out a way to do it so you don't feel like you have to complete it first thing every week.

**Protip**
- For only 27 Strange Coins you can level up a faction with the Nightfall Buff. You need 81 Heavy Ammo Synths per level with the Buff. If you are close to rank 25 I would recommend doing this so you can start your faction quest.

**Even Pro-er tip**

Hold off on leveling your faction until the 15th, so you can get the new gear with greater light.

Also, if you're doing a faction quest, hold off on completing it until the 15th, as you have a better chance at a new exotic (the faction quests are real easy, so be careful about accidentally finishing it).

Isn't the nightfall boost going away next week? I vaguely recall reading that.

I'm pretty sure this is what I've heard also. if you need to hedge a faction up to 25 then I would do the rep gains now since you get the buff.

And for probably the first time since he sold them, I went a few weeks without refilling my heavy ammo coffers. Bummer.

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**Protip**
- For only 27 Strange Coins you can level up a faction with the Nightfall Buff. You need 81 Heavy Ammo Synths per level with the Buff. If you are close to rank 25 I would recommend doing this so you can start your faction quest.

**Even Pro-er tip**

Hold off on leveling your faction until the 15th, so you can get the new gear with greater light.

Also, if you're doing a faction quest, hold off on completing it until the 15th, as you have a better chance at a new exotic (the faction quests are real easy, so be careful about accidentally finishing it).

Don't the faction quests require you to do 10 Nightfalls as one of the steps?

Don't the faction quests require you to do 10 Nightfalls as one of the steps?

10 nightfalls or heroics. This week's nightfall can be done in less than 5 minutes so I'd recommend grinding them this week.

This week's nightfall can be done in less than 5 minutes ...

People keep saying that, but what about this "Very Hard" label it now has? I'm skeered.

TRust me, it's not hard.

I did it on my Titan who was L34 with maybe ~160 light and it was a breeze. I'm not sure why the "Very Hard" label was on it, but it actually felt easier than it used to. The PUG I was playing with was very aggressive, which was an awesome change of pace. But yeah, it was definitely an under 10 minute endeavor

Heroic strike playlist next week might actually be fun, though.

until trials, i only played crucible during Iron Banner.

Guess i'll get there eventually.

I know that feeling. My Titan is at rank 8 for new monarchy. And then my warlock and Hunter have some higher ranks in a lot of them.

Yeah, I don't even know if my highest faction is that high...

Isn't the nightfall boost going away next week? I vaguely recall reading that.

Yeah, they are trying to figure out a way to do it so you don't feel like you have to complete it first thing every week.

Except, that they're not taking it away so much as they're effectively applying the buff to everyone whether they've run it or not now, right?

I thought that was the way they explained it, but I could be totally remembering that wrong.

-Disciple

That kind of defeats the purpose of a buff. I mean, you do something hard to get something. The way it is now makes perfect sense to me.

That kind of defeats the purpose of a buff. I mean, you do something hard to get something. The way it is now makes perfect sense to me.

True, but it was kind of meant to be a band-aid until they figured out how they wanted the nightfall buff to work. Rather than take away the bonus rep/XP that people were counting on, they'll just give it to everyone for now.

-Disciple

That kind of defeats the purpose of a buff. I mean, you do something hard to get something. The way it is now makes perfect sense to me.

True, but it was kind of meant to be a band-aid until they figured out how they wanted the nightfall buff to work. Rather than take away the bonus rep/XP that people were counting on, they'll just give it to everyone for now.

-Disciple

They said they were increasing the rep gains, but I don't know if they are increasing it to the level you got from Nightfall, they didn't really clarify.

Also, from the way they worded it, I don't think it'll come back in some kind of rep buff, they wanted it to be more of a "mark of prestige" to have completed the Nightfall.

That kind of defeats the purpose of a buff. I mean, you do something hard to get something. The way it is now makes perfect sense to me.

True, but it was kind of meant to be a band-aid until they figured out how they wanted the nightfall buff to work. Rather than take away the bonus rep/XP that people were counting on, they'll just give it to everyone for now.

-Disciple

Gotta give us Nightfall buff addicts our fix or we will go ape shit on them!

That kind of defeats the purpose of a buff. I mean, you do something hard to get something. The way it is now makes perfect sense to me.

True, but it was kind of meant to be a band-aid until they figured out how they wanted the nightfall buff to work. Rather than take away the bonus rep/XP that people were counting on, they'll just give it to everyone for now.

-Disciple

i never saw a problem with the way it was. You get xp for everything (except raids). If you do this one thing that is extra hard, then you get rewarded with the Buff.

i never saw a problem with the way it was. You get xp for everything (except raids). If you do this one thing that is extra hard, then you get rewarded with the Buff.

I think there are a lot of people that agree with you, but I totally get where Bungie is coming from. If you wanted to max out your potential XP gain for the week you HAD to do the Nightfall first thing. Giving players options in what they want to do when they want to will often be a better system.

And yeah as a programmer I see how obnoxious this would be. But how about when you do the Nightfall, you get the bonus XP/Rep for the XP/Rep you already gained that week as a lump sum upon gaining the buff.

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This week's nightfall can be done in less than 5 minutes ...

People keep saying that, but what about this "Very Hard" label it now has? I'm skeered.

It was ridiculously easy to do with a single teammate. A Fireteam of three can do it in no time.
Like I said, even level 20 people can run it (although given their low Light rating, they'll have a nasty time of it).

I got to Rank 3 in Dead Orbit just to get the Deadshot Luna when HoW came out, and deleted that character shortly thereafter.

**Protip**
- For only 27 Strange Coins you can level up a faction with the Nightfall Buff. You need 81 Heavy Ammo Synths per level with the Buff. If you are close to rank 25 I would recommend doing this so you can start your faction quest.

This doesn't even make sense to me. As usual, I think I need the Dummies Guide
Is this new 2.0 stuff? You can trade coins into faction leaders for heavy ammo synths and it increases faction XP?

Is this new 2.0 stuff? You can trade coins into faction leaders for heavy ammo synths and it increases faction XP?

You can buy heavy ammo synths from Xur for cheap. Then there is a material donation section in with the factions for you to donate stuff for rep with them.

This is the last week of the nightfall XP buff (as far as we know). When you trade in 1 Heavy Ammo Synth you get 25 rep (31 with nightfall buff).

If you are close to leveling up a faction to 25 then this is the best week to do it. At level 25 you are eligible to start the faction quest line which will yield you an exotic class item for your chosen faction.

Or if you are really trying for a shader or ship from a faction, then you can do it for cheap this week.

edit: This is still older gear, but not the Taken King gear until after Tuesday.

**Protip**
- For only 27 Strange Coins you can level up a faction with the Nightfall Buff. You need 81 Heavy Ammo Synths per level with the Buff. If you are close to rank 25 I would recommend doing this so you can start your faction quest.

This doesn't even make sense to me. As usual, I think I need the Dummies Guide
Is this new 2.0 stuff? You can trade coins into faction leaders for heavy ammo synths and it increases faction XP?

The idea is that you can trade in materials (even synths) to reputation. Trading heavy ammo synths give you the most rep. In fact the best way to do it is to buy with motes and then trade in the synths.

The problem was it only lasted till the reset, so you got inequitable rewards depending on when you were able to play the nightfall.

With the server resets work, but could they make it so that if you do the Nightfall you get the buff for a week, regardless of reset? Or make it five days, or three, or whatever. I'm just not sure if it's possible for them to make it track to individual Guardians through the reset.

Some consumables work on timers right now (telemetries, glimmer consumables, etc), so if they went that route they would just have to make it last for however many hours they settle on.

Knowing me, I'm still going to run the nightfall as early as possible. Mostly out of habit.

Yeah, I think 11 is my highest.

Yeah, I think 11 is my highest.

Woah, I thought you'd be much higher. 15 for me (Dead Orbit)

hunter 8 - NM
titan 11 - FWC
warlock 8 - DO

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I'm quite similar.

Didn't do the faction levelling at all; I was much more interested in levelling Vanguard, especially since for most of my time I wasn't playing in the Crucible.

-- Steve's pondering changing his approach this year, particularly now that faction rep doesn't displace Vanguard/Crucible rep.