So uh, how do you earn marks?

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Until then, I think RNG is going to play a significant factor....

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Dailies (PvE and Crucible), a number of Quests, drops from PvP(?), Weeklies, Dismantling Legendaries

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There are a number of ways, but I've found that the most reliable so far is just to dismantle the Legendary gear/weapons that you get (all Year 2) that you don't plan on keeping forever. The daily Crucible gives 15, so there's that...

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There are a number of ways, but I've found that the most reliable so far is just to dismantle the Legendary gear/weapons that you get (all Year 2) that you don't plan on keeping forever. The daily Crucible gives 15, so there's that...

So. It seems the majority of your marks come from doing daily activities. This absolutely sucks because this means if you don't log on every day, your progress is slowed and you can't make that up. This makes me so angry that they would stoop to this to get people playing every day.

When they get so much right this time around, it's baffling that there are still these bad decisions let through.

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I was able to upgrade stuff, buy a vanguard weapon, and I've still got 55 left. Never could have happened in the last version.

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Wait, what? How many have you earned in one day? Crazy :s

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30 - Heroic strike 3 times
15 - Daily Heroic
15 - Daily crucible playlist
25 - Vanguard's Hand
25 - Do 5 strikes
20 - Taken War Venus
20 - Taken War Earth

There's 150 right there. Dismantle a bunch of crappy purples, and you're in good shape.

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30 - Heroic strike 3 times
15 - Daily Heroic

These are light level 240. I'm nowhere near that (~205). Explain how you got there so fast!

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I'm nearly at 280 right now. I think I got really lucky drops, but I also used a lot of materials to upgrade my faction packages to get high level stuff early, did a bunch of court of Oryx to get high light blues, etc. I had saved a buttload of engrams before it came out to turn in, too.

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Forgot you could turn in your extra mats to your faction (donate). I have to try that out. I've been forced to save this stuff for so long I forgot you can get rid of it now.

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Thanks again for letting me run with you two! I had such a great time.

I should have taken a break, but dang, I was having a blast. I ended up playing from 4am-Midnight. I managed to get both my Hunter and my Warlock to around the 240 light mark and have around 150 legendary marks.

I tried doing the 260 level strike at 241 and it was an absolute murderfest. I had a lot of fun, but it sucks to wipe on the final boss with less than an 1/8th of their health left.

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I apologize if I came off super negative, but 9 hours of any game will get to me. Today hasn't been much better, I need to get a solid night's sleep in so I'm not so angry.

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"30 - Heroic strike 3 times
15 - Daily Heroic
15 - Daily crucible playlist
25 - Vanguard's Hand
25 - Do 5 strikes
20 - Taken War Venus
20 - Taken War Earth"

I'll add that I got:

25 marks for completing a single Dreadnaught Patrol. Pretty fun, it's like a randomly generated strike.

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People who log in everyday always earned marks faster, because they were playing the game more. How is this any different?

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Because you used to be able to make up for it. You didn't have to play every day, you could play once or twice a week for longer periods, rather than doing a few things every day. And it sucks if you basically only mainly get marks from the dailies. If you don't do them you're missing out.

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People who log in everyday always earned marks faster, because they were playing the game more. How is this any different?

Because, if you are playing to progress and get marks and gear, not all time spent is the same.

Consider you have two hours to play Destiny every week. If you spend those two hours over two days, you get more than if you spend 2 hours in one day.

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People who log in everyday always earned marks faster, because they were playing the game more. How is this any different?

Because, if you are playing to progress and get marks and gear, not all time spent is the same.

Consider you have two hours to play Destiny every week. If you spend those two hours over two days, you get more than if you spend 2 hours in one day.

Ok, I see where you're coming from now. But I think it is waaaaay too early to worry about this. It's been 1 day. We know that dismantling legendary gear gives you marks. We're still in the early hours of this expansion, soaking up all the new gear we can find. But people who play as much as you and I will quickly begin scrapping rewards because we don't need them. We'll get plenty of marks that way.

Think of it like this: if Destiny year 1 ONLY rewarded marks for dismantling legendary gear, you and I would still have earned more marks than we could ever spend.

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This must be some kind of record. TTK is so good it took nearly a day for Cody to be angry and baffled by something. yawn.

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heh, if grind is the worst complaint after 24 hours Bungie has done something right.

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Halo it was all the way in 343GS. Halo 2 was 10 yards in front of you in your first mission. Destiny doesn't seem to have the problem because of how the ammo and gun system works, dropping from enemies...and yet, playing the new strikes and some missions, they DO give you ammo crates. What's up with that?

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Halo it was all the way in 343GS.

Huh? There were crates everywhere - on the Pillar of Autumn, even!

Halo 2 was 10 yards in front of you in your first mission. Destiny doesn't seem to have the problem because of how the ammo and gun system works, dropping from enemies...and yet, playing the new strikes and some missions, they DO give you ammo crates. What's up with that?

Oh. The original TTC (from Old Man Murray) was to a CRATE, not an ammo crate. Any crate - the point was that game designers found them really easy to plop into games, so a high TTC told you that you were playing a slightly less boring game.

But even ammo crates... so you're not counting the grenade trays at the end of PoA, or any of the weapons/ammo packs on the ground on Halo (around dropships)?

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Nah, those don't count. They were still creative and gave you guns in context of the story, and ammo crates don't count. 343GS just had guns laying on blocks, which is consistent with time to crate's philosophy.

I also know Destiny can't really work within the time to crate framework, I just thought it was weird they added ammo crates in the narrative.

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...ignoring the post if you don't find it constructive?

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...ignoring the post if you don't find it constructive?

Because too often silence is mistaken for agreement. I've seen folks disuaded from joining DBO specifically and other Destiny forums in general because of the perception that we're/they're just gigantic whinefests that drain the fun out of the game, and I'm empathetic here having very nearly soured on Halo from all the negativitity until I took a social media break.

-- Steve'd rather see open discussion, thank you. Better for the community overall, even if it ruffles some feathers. (That, IHO, deserve a vigorous ruffling.)

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...ignoring the post if you don't find it constructive?

Because too often silence is mistaken for agreement. I've seen folks disuaded from joining DBO specifically and other Destiny forums in general because of the preception that we're/they're just gigantic whinefests that drain the fun out of the game, and I'm empathetic here having very nearly soured on Halo from all the negativitity until I took a social media break.

I guess I'm replying here on this specifically because I find the ad hominem attacks more damaging to the tone and content of the boards than someone saying they have a concern with the game. If people prefer personal attacks over what they see as attacks against the game, then this becomes a community that is much much less attractive to me.

Now I'm going to go be an example and reply to cody in a different way. You be the judge if it helps or not.

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I love DBO. But one thing I see here a bit too often is:

* Person A complains about something in Destiny
* Person B insults person A.

It's OK to disagree with someone. It's OK to be completely flabbergasted by their opinion or complaint or the way they voice their thoughts. But if you can't communicate your own thoughts without resorting to personal insults... well I find that a lot more upsetting than someone voicing a negative opinion about a videogame.

Cody and I disagree on plenty of stuff. Anyone who frequents the forums will come across plenty of exchanges between the 2 of us where we discuss an issue from opposite sides. But not once has either of us resorted to personal insults or attacks. We, and many others here, keep things friendly while we disagree.

Kermit, I just want to say specifically that I'm not including you in my statements about some DBOers resorting to personal insults. I was building off of Slycrel's post in a more general way. I took your response to Cody's complaint as more of a friendly poke than anything else :)

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I love DBO. But one thing I see here a bit too often is:

* Person A complains about something in Destiny
* Person B insults person A.

It's OK to disagree with someone. It's OK to be completely flabbergasted by their opinion or complaint or the way they voice their thoughts. But if you can't communicate your own thoughts without resorting to personal insults... well I find that a lot more upsetting than someone voicing a negative opinion about a videogame.

Cody and I disagree on plenty of stuff. Anyone who frequents the forums will come across plenty of exchanges between the 2 of us where we discuss an issue from opposite sides. But not once has either of us resorted to personal insults or attacks. We, and many others here, keep things friendly while we disagree.

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Kermit, I just want to say specifically that I'm not including you in my statements about some DBOers resorting to personal insults. I was building off of Slycrel's post in a more general way. I took your response to Cody's complaint as more of a friendly poke than anything else :)

Thanks, Cruel. I didn't see my post as an ad hominem attack. It was a friendly poke, but within that was a legitimate criticism of Cody's hyperbolic negative reactions, their sameness and their frequency. I stand by that criticism.

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I see what you are saying. But they made this a good change IMO. Having no weekly cap is amazing. but in order for that to work they have to limit how many you can actually get in a week. They did this by limiting how many you could earn in a day. If they allowed you to get more per day, they would just put the weekly cap back on.

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I see what you are saying. But they made this a good change IMO. Having no weekly cap is amazing. but in order for that to work they have to limit how many you can actually get in a week. They did this by limiting how many you could earn in a day. If they allowed you to get more per day, they would just put the weekly cap back on.

There is essentially a soft weekly cap, based on how many marks you can earn from the daily and weekly activities. Yeah, I guess you can dismantle items to get more, but you're looking at a small number of marks for that. You get marks for quests the first time only.

Prior it was a weekly cap which you could earn towards all week whenever you played. Now it is a weekly cap which only allow you to earn marks towards it at certain times.

I am not sure I see the improvement yet. The cap is still there, it's just much more limiting. For someone looking to play the progression and grindy game less because that is dumb, I get hurt way more than I would under the old system.

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There are a number of ways, but I've found that the most reliable so far is just to dismantle the Legendary gear/weapons that you get (all Year 2) that you don't plan on keeping forever. The daily Crucible gives 15, so there's that...

So. It seems the majority of your marks come from doing daily activities. This absolutely sucks because this means if you don't log on every day, your progress is slowed and you can't make that up. This makes me so angry that they would stoop to this to get people playing every day.

When they get so much right this time around, it's baffling that there are still these bad decisions let through.

Wait, what?

You're complaining that the currency that you need to earn to get good stuff is earned by... doing stuff?

WTF?

If you don't log on every day, you lose ONLY THOSE MARKS YOU COULD HAVE EARNED IF YOU'D LOGGED ON. The ones available to you when you ARE on, playing, do not go anywhere.

If you don't play, yes, your progress is slowed. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PLAYING.

Sometimes I simply don't understand what you're complaining about. :(

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...I STILL don't really buy your argument.

If you treat Destiny like a skinner box, it's gonna BE a skinner box.

Take yourself out of the box, Cody.

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...I STILL don't really buy your argument.

My argument is this:

In game about progress, your progress should pause when you aren't playing, but not go away. If you don't do the dailies, those marks go away. Under the old system, your progress paused since if you didn't earn your 100 marks one day, you could get them the next.

Those 50 pieces on the Dreadnought are there whether I take a week to do it, or a year. At the end, I still get those same 50 pieces. But you don't get the same number of marks if you don't play everyday. And guess what? I want to do the raid on friday, but can't log in everyday between now and then.

Unless 5 others want to promise to do a blind raid with me next week, I have to be ready on friday.

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...I STILL don't really buy your argument.

My argument is this:

In game about progress, your progress should pause when you aren't playing, but not go away. If you don't do the dailies, those marks go away. Under the old system, your progress paused since if you didn't earn your 100 marks one day, you could get them the next.

You talking about potential marks. Potential marks always went away, some on a weekly rather than daily schedule.

... I have to be ready on friday.

Ah, the REAL problem.

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I want to do the raid on friday, but can't log in everyday between now and then.

These statements seem to be at odds with one another.

We're saving our blind raid for a whole week. I don't think we'll be missing anything by giving ourselves time to level up and actually enjoy the process while we're at it.

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I want to do the raid on friday, but can't log in everyday between now and then.

These statements seem to be at odds with one another.

We're saving our blind raid for a whole week. I don't think we'll be missing anything by giving ourselves time to level up and actually enjoy the process while we're at it.

I find the longer you wait, the greater the chance of someone getting spoiled. Even if they don't want to be.

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At first glance I felt the same way. I mean, I play 2-3 days a week. For the first couple of months, the daily is the new nightfall.

But then I realized that marks, just like in days past, will become less and less useful as we progress. We just want a ton now so we can "quickly" level up and be at "end game" content by Friday so we can do the raid. I think it can be played that way, but wasn't designed to.

Bungie took the concept of etheric light, which is pretty darn good, and turned it into currency. This has a number of benefits, some for them, some for you.

* It gives you a reason to play more often
- This keeps your interest for longer
- This keeps the world more populated.
- It makes it much more likely you won't wander away before the next expansion.

* It keeps currency account-wide. This encourages you to play what character you want when, rather than "forcing" you to play on your best character more often. Yes, it doesn't completely solve that, but it's one less barrier here.

* It keeps things fresh, reminding you of the cool content they have, rather than focusing on what isn't there.

There's likely more here, but I have to work.

I watched a bunch of us rush to 34 after HoW came out, at the expense of some enjoyment. Pushing for tons and tons of marks too fast feels like it's in the same direction -- the end justify the means, rather than enjoying the journey. I think a great game is all about enjoying the journey to the end. Gearing up is great, but doesn't have to be everything, and arguably shouldn't be. Otherwise this really is just a big skinner box to take your money rather than a shared experience that becomes a win-win for everyone.

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So uh, how do you earn marks? (Destiny)

Weekly Strikes and... uh... Quests?

heroic strikes get you 10

Limit of 3x account wide though. Ick.