Do we know yet why we aren't the center of the universe? (Destiny)
I wondering if this is a plot hole, requires suspension of belief, or I've missed the grimoire card for it.
In the cosmic scheme of things, we know that the traveler came, and eventually we met other species (be they living, dead, or deactivated). Eventually the "darkness" came, and we were introduced to those that we would call enemy. Now it seems to me and my ego that everyone should be seeing the Sol system as the center of the galaxy. Yet we have to beat up on kids and scouts to get anyone's attention. What gives?
In the case of the Fallen, well, okay, they are doing what they are supposed to be doing. We aren't expecting any sort of Fallen high command to come walzing into the system because their civ has already been destroyed.
But how about the Cabal? The Cabal are supposed to be an unstoppable army, "destroying entire planets" when they need to, and yet we only get a few outposts? Where is the Cabal Death Star and why don't they care about us?
And the Hive, where apparently having your kid take a whack at the Traveler and and his band of merry Guardians is a good galactic domination strategy. I would have thought the Traveler chilling all docile like over our planet would have been reason to swing by and say hello. Instead he let's his kid fail not once, but TWICE.
The Vex make a little more sense if only because most times they actually make no sense at all. We also faced the Vex "first" as far as our personal guardian is concerned, so in a way they have been "dealt with" (though anyone who thinks that is crazier than Eris). We're also a lot less sure about their motivations and methods, so perhaps they already know they beat us and just don't need a show of force. Maybe they now worship us, since that'd be the only logical conclusion to us bitch slapping their god.
So, what exactly is out there in the universe that is soooooo much more interesting than the Travel, and that has all the other powerful (but literally not fallen) races distracted? Perhaps the ones we've faced so far are breaking rank, and not following the Darkness Master Plan™? Perhaps we really don't rate in the scheme of things, and the Traveler is simply the equivalent of a door-to-door salesmen entering an Amish community?
Given any other similar artifact associated with an ancient race, be it a Vorlon mothership, jewelry designed by a Maia, or a Forerunner ring, generally speaking younger races go ape shit for that kinda stuff and immediately start fighting over it. Yet here we are camped out on earth afraid that the next race that looks at us funny will end our civilization, and that we're just lucky none of them have tried yet. What gives?
Do we know yet why we aren't the center of the universe?
by Ragashingo 
, Official DBO Cryptarch, Tuesday, September 22, 2015, 21:49 (3446 days ago) @ Earendil
Good question. One that doesn't have a solid answer yet. A few possibilities:
1. We are, and everyone is rushing this way, they just haven't gotten here yet.
2. We are, and everyone tried to rush our way, but something (The Darkness, The Nine, etc) slowed or stopped them.
3. We should be, but Space Is Big, Really Big™ and only most don't even know the Traveler is stuck here with us. And those that do were only smaller scouting forces and not a race's full might. The Cabal, for sure, have a lot more strength than we've yet seen.
4. We are, and everyone tried to rush our way, but the Traveler has done something that makes getting here harder / take longer than normal.
5. Maybe there is something else going on in the galaxy?
6. Maybe word is spreading of a race of unkillable warriors with a powers that are almost as deadly as their frabjous sense of style. Oh, and they just killed Oryx, the Hive god who had been terrorizing the galaxy for the last several hundred thousand years... maybe we shouldn't go over there after all... yep... seems pretty nice over here not getting wiped out by the Guardians.
I've been wondering about who is left for us to fight. We've defeated the HIve... except we really haven't. There's still Savathûn the cunning and Xivu Arath the strong are still out there. The Vex, who were able to stand against the Hive and who Oryx considered a worthy opponent are still out there. The Cabal empire is still out there. The Nine are still out near Saturn. And there is the Darkness itself. In some ways it feels like we've reached an end, but like the Exo Stranger said: All ends are beginnings. I can't wait to see what happens next. :)
What happens next
Pretty confident that our next House of Wolves-sized content drop will be the arrival of a Cabal fleet to ruin our day.
The question is, will we see Mara Sov/Eris make another appearance then, or the content pack after that?
The silence is deafening
Think about it. The backstory of the Traveler and the Hive show there were a multitude of races, but space travel is difficult for all but the Vex, Traveler, and Darkness.
Add on that the Hive have been wiping out multiple species and empires every century, thousands upon thousands if you believe the data in the World's Grave, and you have a major answer to the Fermi Paradox.
The Darkness, and it's proxies the Hive, have destroyed the higher ruling forces of the galaxy and now all you have left are individual species that haven't been contacted yet due to obscurity and distance.
There is no universal holo-net or FTL newsfeed or anything. There is no way to find the Traveler or the Darkness short of going to a system and looking for them. The Cabal have a splinter fleet here but really don't understand what the traveler is or it's importance. The fallen do, but are here by happenstance. Only the Vex planned to be here, because they knew the Darkness would be here.
Whatever other races are out there don't know what's going on in the Sol system, and even if a message reached them now it would take time to get forces here using the conventional FTL systems shown in game.
The silence is deafening
by Xenos 
, Shores of Time, Thursday, September 24, 2015, 12:35 (3444 days ago) @ Durandal
Whatever other races are out there don't know what's going on in the Sol system, and even if a message reached them now it would take time to get forces here using the conventional FTL systems shown in game.
Which, I might add, are not even FTL systems, they call the drives on your ship NLS drives, which I would imagine means Near Light Speed.
Which is why it takes over 8 minutes for Mercury to load :p
by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, September 24, 2015, 13:47 (3444 days ago) @ Xenos
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Do we know yet why we aren't the center of the universe?
So we know that the Traveler had no problem flitting through space, system to system like a crazy little evolution-bringing bug. We know he raised up the Fallen, and that when the Darkness came, the Traveler fled (to us, eventually) and the Fallen chased it.
We also know that the Traveler was here for a long time (not long, cosmically speaking, but still several hundred years) before the darkness got here.
And we know that the Vex transcend space and time and worship the darkness, that the hive seek light to fuel their immortality (but are not necessarily servants of the darkness, right?) and that the Cabal are a seemingly neutral party to all of this light/darkness nonsense.
Okay, so I think we can assume that the Vex would let the darkness know where the Traveler was at any given moment *if* the Traveler was actually important to the Vex or the Darkness. So either the Darkness has known that the Traveler was here since it first showed up, and literally didn't care enough to come here right away, or the darkness came as quickly as it could and just travels really, really slowly, or the Vex didn't see the presence of the traveler as significant enough to report back to their dark overlords.
To me, it seems far more likely that the Darkness just don't care.
The Traveler is this one thing, which is only able to raise up a single planet at a time, and seems to grant benefits to only single species at a time, and which has been - up to this point - constantly running from the darkness whenever it's been encountered. The Darkness, however, is clearly some kind of vast power capable of dominating multiple systems and the space between them simultaneously. That kind of force is really unfathomable. It's effectively infinite when compared to the entirety of the Guardians. So what does it care if some ants are harder to kill than others? We're a nuisance, nothing more.
I predict that, until the plot of Destiny turns so far as to show the Guardians actively pushing the darkness back, out of Sol and the systems beyond, that we'll never encounter the true might of the real enemy.
So no, I don't think we're the center of the universe. We're an anthill in a forest. Interesting, maybe, but by no means important. Yet.
On the nature of the Darkness
I think the darkness is a singular thing, like the Traveler. "IT is alone" - Rasputin.
But IT has supplicants, proxies, like the Hive (oh reader mine), that take care of lesser foes and expand the rate at which it can eliminate life in the universe without being a direct threat, as the hive don't know how anything works. They just know if they follow the correct rituals they will get the desired result.
So even if the Darkness is active from the start, it would take a long time to travel from system to system and eliminate all the races.
Do we know yet why we aren't the center of the universe?
by Blackt1g3r , Login is from an untrusted domain in MN, Thursday, September 24, 2015, 13:58 (3444 days ago) @ Kahzgul
So either the Darkness has known that the Traveler was here since it first showed up, and literally didn't care enough to come here right away, or the darkness came as quickly as it could and just travels really, really slowly, or the Vex didn't see the presence of the traveler as significant enough to report back to their dark overlords.
Wait, aren't you forgetting that the Traveler sacrificed itself (was forced to sacrifice itself by Rasputin?) in order to stop the Darkness at the collapse? So doesn't that mean that the Darkness already knows where the Traveler is? My assumption has been that whatever the Traveler did when the Darkness came last time, it managed to wound it enough that it hasn't been able to return yet.
In my head at least, I'm picturing something like The Fifth Element. The Traveler manages to destroy the Darkness, but after a period of time it's able to reconstitute itself and when it does it will be coming for us. In the meantime we are trying to revive the Traveler and gain enough power for ourselves that we'll be able to survive when it does.