Curiously, I only heard about the game on this forum. And yet it really struck me that Destiny 1.0 felt, in hindsight, quite derivative and not in a good way.

Yet here we are in the bold new world of 2.0 and Destiny has truly come into its own. I'm so in love.

After all the blahblah about Warframe, I went to Youtube and searched for a Warframe Raid.

What I saw looked like garbage. Rolling like a pinball super fast through the entire map, bouncing off walls randomly, tons of random proximity markers everywhere, nothing made sense. It looked awful.

I put it to you guys to refer me to a video that makes Warframe actually look like anything even remotely worth playing.

Didn't think so..

And it was a clumsy feeling bland experience. I deleted it laughing about how awful of an experience it was with my mate.

Warframe did a lot of things right. Fluid play (in theory), interesting abilities, varied playable characters, etc.

Unfortunately the gameplay was plagued by control issues, "endless" gametypes relied largely on "fake difficulty" and the grind could be hideous.

Warframe was a lot of fun to get into. Building and trying new weapons, learning how to use new Warframes and fighting cool bosses was great. Continuing to play Warframe became really tiring though. The late-game grind is pretty intense, and really not fun after you figure out what to do. I spent an awful lot of time standing in a corner pressing Triangle over and over. Warframe's endgame is essentially the Loot Cave.

I quit before the Raid came out so I can't talk about that.

I know this post sounds pretty negative, but I fully recommend you at least try Warframe. The first 20-30 hours are a lot of fun, and after that how much fun you have depends on how seriously you take it. My recommendation : Mess around with some of the playable characters, make some cool/weird/gross-looking guns, play some endgame content, then move on. Consumed that way it's a good experience (and free!). Just don't get caught up in the Collector mindset.