Let's talk Legendary Marks and the Iron Banana

Doing some quick math on the purchasable items for Iron Banner it looks like it will now cost you 420 Legendary Marks in order to purchase one of each item. That means on top of earning the maximum of 270 marks, you will need to either start with a minimum of 150 marks for the week, or get extremely lucky and earn an additional 150 marks through dismantling 50 unleveled legendary items.

What are other people's thoughts on this?

I personally think it's crazy that they are requiring so many marks for 280 level gear. This wouldn't be nearly as bad if they weren't limiting the number of marks you could earn to less than half of what you could previously earn.

Edit: You can earn an additional 75 marks by completing the weekly IB Bounties.

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Doing some quick math on the purchasable items for Iron Banner it looks like it will now cost you 420 Legendary Marks in order to purchase one of each item. That means on top of earning the maximum of 270 marks, you will need to either start with a minimum of 150 marks for the week, or get extremely lucky and earn an additional 150 marks through dismantling 50 unleveled legendary items.

What are other people's thoughts on this?

I personally think it's crazy that they are requiring so many marks for 280 level gear. This wouldn't be nearly as bad if they weren't limiting the number of marks you could earn to less than half of what you could previously earn.

In the weekly update a couple weeks back, Bungie said they were increasing the drop rates of all Iron Banner items as post-game rewards. Their intention is for us to be able to get all the available IB gear through drops, and only resort to purchasing items as a last-ditch backup plan. If it actually plays out that way, I'm fine with it.

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In the weekly update a couple weeks back, Bungie said they were increasing the drop rates of all Iron Banner items as post-game rewards. Their intention is for us to be able to get all the available IB gear through drops, and only resort to purchasing items as a last-ditch backup plan. If it actually plays out that way, I'm fine with it.

I really hope it plays out that way. In that case I would be okay with it. I know I am pretty frustrated with the new legendary mark system in general. It's just another item that requires LM as a currency to an already reduced pool of potential marks.

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Since it combines PvP and PvE marks into a single mark, I am able to play 99% of my time in PvE and still pick up crucible gear if need be. In the old system I rarely had enough crucible marks to do that. Fewer currencies means that I can more easily play the game the way I want, and when I show up to pay for my goods I will have earned the currency I need.

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Since it combines PvP and PvE marks into a single mark, I am able to play 99% of my time in PvE and still pick up crucible gear if need be. In the old system I rarely had enough crucible marks to do that. Fewer currencies means that I can more easily play the game the way I want, and when I show up to pay for my goods I will have earned the currency I need.

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You can read my typical play style above for a frame of reference. I absolutely love that they have combined the separate Vanguard and Crucible marks into one single Legendary Mark currency. This is how it should have been from the start.

I really despise the new system of how we earn marks though. I now need to run the daily crucible playlist and the daily story mission if I want to earn any substantial amount of marks (210 out of 270 per week are earned doing daily items).

I'd rather go run control/clash and earn marks like we used to compared to getting thrown into some BS gametypes like Mayhem Rumble and then having to win those matches to earn marks. Let's not forget that Nightfall no longer gives you adequate rewards to make it even worth playing.

This approach to earning marks is completely contradictory to giving us freedom to play how we want to. I do not see the new mark system as a quality of life improvement in any way. In fact, I view this a taking away the freedom to play how I want to play.

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Well... Only if you must by things right now. You're are and always have been free to play the way you want. ;)

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Well... Only if you must by things right now. You're are and always have been free to play the way you want. ;)

Remember, it's not only just for buying stuff.... but also used for infusing your gear to be able to participate in the end game activities. I need those marks so I can play the want I want to play lol

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Man I hope it plays out as advertised. I'd much rather be playing IB than farming marks to buy things to play IB.

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It forces you to make a choice. If you could always afford all three, you'd simply buy all three. There would be no analyzing how each weapon would benefit your current set up.

I'm not going to say I agree with it, but it is a common enough way to deal with rewards. It's like not giving a kid enough money to buy everything he wants, only enough to buy half of it. That way the kid has to think and decide what is truly important to them.

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We were always HEAVILY glimmer limited before when buying Iron Banner stuff to the point I could only buy a couple of things each Iron Banner. Now we are still heavily limited, it sounds like, just by Legendary Marks. The only real difference is before you could blacken your soul by Glimmer Farming which almost never did as I saw it about half a step above the Loot Cave.

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I have a ton of old raid shards and energies in my vault. I was saving them for Iron Banner. It seems like they swapped to legendary marks to cut off people who were waiting to cash in the stuff in their vaults.

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We were always HEAVILY glimmer limited before when buying Iron Banner stuff to the point I could only buy a couple of things each Iron Banner. Now we are still heavily limited, it sounds like, just by Legendary Marks. The only real difference is before you could blacken your soul by Glimmer Farming which almost never did as I saw it about half a step above the Loot Cave.

We were limited by glimmer, which was fine with me. My soul is very blackened as is, so I would go farm the exclusion zone (those guys are the most unstoppable force in all of Mars btw). The thing I liked about this is that I had the option to grind to rank 5 on all characters and then go grind so more if I wanted to. With the new semi-rigid hard cap, I no longer have the same options as before.

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Sure you do, just go farm the heroic strikes for a while. Granted it might be a bit slower, but I'm not convinced it's all that much slower.

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Sure you do, just go farm the heroic strikes for a while. Granted it might be a bit slower, but I'm not convinced it's all that much slower.

In which sense? You only get a guaranteed 30 marks account-wide doing the heroic strike playlist. After that, you have to rely on RNG dropping legendary engrams you don't want and can dismantle for 3 marks each.

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I seem to get around 1 legendary weapon per strike or so. Like I said, it will probably take longer but you can still grind for the marks.

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My luck hasn't been nearly as good as yours then. Which is actually the heart of the problem for me on this. You now have to rely on RNG to drop those legendaries instead of getting a guaranteed 3 marks or whatever it was per strike.

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Sure you do, just go farm the heroic strikes for a while. Granted it might be a bit slower, but I'm not convinced it's all that much slower.

In which sense? You only get a guaranteed 30 marks account-wide doing the heroic strike playlist. After that, you have to rely on RNG dropping legendary engrams you don't want and can dismantle for 3 marks each.

My RNG luck is HORRIBLE. Even so, I still shard 3 or 4 legendaries a day. Running strikes is fun, and an easy way to earn stuff.

I was an idiot - I completely forgot that IB might use Marks as a currency. Last night, I had 177 marks, and I didn't want to hit the cap and stop earning. So I bought a Y2 Red Death, even though I didn't really want it right now. (I want one - but down the road a bit.)

So this morning I woke up with 30 marks, and read the note about needing to buy stuff with Marks. (I guess I assumed it'd be glimmer again - I have more than 80k banked right now.)

I played 2 strikes and one Iron Banner game (45 minutes, maybe) and I currently have 75 marks. And that's after 3 new infusions.

They build up pretty quick. :)

(It helps that the two strikes completed a 25-mark bounty, but still... :) )

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I played 2 strikes and one Iron Banner game (45 minutes, maybe) and I currently have 75 marks. And that's after 3 new infusions.

They build up pretty quick. :)

(It helps that the two strikes completed a 25-mark bounty, but still... :) )

I found the same thing, until I completed all the quests on my hunter. Now they trickle in. I don't do the daily mission/playlist unless I'm in the mood, which kills most of my "earning potential". But as you said, I'm finding that legendary gear drops often enough that I'll still get 10-15 marks per day that way.

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They were terrible options. I'm glad Bungie has decided to protect you from yourself. :p

Seriously though, Glimmer Farming always sucked and I'd rather do just about anything else. Either the pervious Iron Banner prices were too high or the Glimmer cap was too low. Or both. Hopefully, the "you get the gear from drops while playing" system works because if it does I think it will be far superior to saving up Marks or Glimmer.

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They were terrible options. I'm glad Bungie has decided to protect you from yourself. :p

Seriously though, Glimmer Farming always sucked and I'd rather do just about anything else. Either the pervious Iron Banner prices were too high or the Glimmer cap was too low. Or both. Hopefully, the "you get the gear from drops while playing" system works because if it does I think it will be far superior to saving up Marks or Glimmer.

We'll see after the week is done if the you get the gear from drops thing works out. Even though I hate glimmer farming, I would do it since it was a guaranteed way of earning what I needed to get what I wanted.

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We'll see after the week is done if the you get the gear from drops thing works out. Even though I hate glimmer farming, I would do it since it was a guaranteed way of earning what I needed to get what I wanted.

I just played for two hours with squid and Disciple. Saw one Legendary drop the entire time we played (we played something like ten or eleven matches). I forgot to ask if it even decrypted into IB gear.

Granted, that's not a terribly long play time, but that's a god awful Legendary drop rate compared to running strikes.

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I figured that was probably the case. I'm just barely under Rank 2 after last night, but Disciple was Rank 4 while we played, if I remember correctly.

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I figured that was probably the case. I'm just barely under Rank 2 after last night, but Disciple was Rank 4 while we played, if I remember correctly.

I mentioned only having the "Reach Rank 4" task left to complete all of the dailies and weeklies yesterday, so that might have been where the confusion came from. And the engram didn't decrypt into an IB glove, but it was at least in the 290s so my Warlock will have something that can be infused now :)

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Edit: Actually, I just realized that I decrypted two glove engrams on my Warlock last night and one turned into 290 Impossible Machines (I already had 310 Impossible Machines, so I was actually way more excited to have a decent set of legendary gloves). No way to know if it was the IB one or one I had sitting my vault, but I doubt it makes a difference.

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I had zero IB drops before this.

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I'm not a fan of the current setup because the currency used to buy IB gear (legendary marks) is something that cannot be earned while playing Iron Banner. Aside from the 75 marks you can get from the weekly IB bounties, you need to go outside the IB playlist. This is a huge pain for anyone who's time is limited. I only have a few days to try and get my IB rank up, but even if I'm able to do it I won't be able to buy anything because I won't have time to run dailies as well.

Really, I think this whole Lehendary Mark system needs a substantial overhaul. It's clearly painting some players into corners where they feel like they need to play activities they wouldn't otherwise play just to earn currencies. It's no better than the split vanguard/crucible currencies we had before... not yet, at least. If they awarded some small amount of marks for strikes and crucible matches, I think that would be a big help.

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I'm not a fan of the current setup because the currency used to buy IB gear (legendary marks) is something that cannot be earned while playing Iron Banner.

The bounties give you legendary marks. 25 each for the gold ones.

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I'm not a fan of the current setup because the currency used to buy IB gear (legendary marks) is something that cannot be earned while playing Iron Banner. Aside from the 75 marks you can get from the weekly IB bounties, you need to go outside the IB playlist. This is a huge pain for anyone who's time is limited. I only have a few days to try and get my IB rank up, but even if I'm able to do it I won't be able to buy anything because I won't have time to run dailies as well.

Really, I think this whole Lehendary Mark system needs a substantial overhaul. It's clearly painting some players into corners where they feel like they need to play activities they wouldn't otherwise play just to earn currencies. It's no better than the split vanguard/crucible currencies we had before... not yet, at least. If they awarded some small amount of marks for strikes and crucible matches, I think that would be a big help.

I think you could also go to the other side and say, that people have to play iron banner (activity they wouldnt otherwise play) to get gear. Before you could just get your marks by doing strikes/crucible/whatever you wanted and get the max marks. The problem was that you were restricted on where you could spend them. They did not set a cap, which is nice, but you are limited on how you can get them. I think they should keep the dailies the same, but just give you a set time a week you can earn marks by activities overall. For instance, instead of 3 strikes or 3 weekly crucible playlist wins, just give accounts 6 chances, applicable to either activity. During IB, You should be able to earn a capped amount (or count as your weekly playlist wins, since there isn't another weekly playlist) by winning in IB. I am not sure the exact numbers that would work, but it will be annoying to have to play something else, to earn gear for IB. Kind of defeats the purpose. At least before you could just farm the glimmer, but you were still doing another activity that NO ONE wanted to do.

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