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A Few Things (Destiny)

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 03:46 (3564 days ago)
edited by Ragashingo, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 04:34

1. Dropping people into the middle of a Rumble match is complete insane. Of all the gametypes that might possibly benefit from Join In Progress, Rumble isn't one. I got dropped in, kicked serious ass, but couldn't overcome the 1000+ point lead the leader had on me. How the hell is that fair? Someone want to defend Join In Progress here? Yeah, I didn't think so.

2. Sunbreakers are just stupid overpowered. I had one take several Thunderlord rounds to the face while he killed an ally then turned and killed me. Had another one kill my bubble then me in there hammers then watched him use his next three to kill more people. Something seriously needs to be done both to nerf Sunbreakers and to give Defenders a Super that's actually... you know... "super."

3. That said, I had a pretty good run with my Defender during this Iron Banner. No Backup Plan is pretty awesome. Maybe it's just fine-frickin'-ly getting to use Force Barrier in the Crucible (as more than a random, once in a thousand encounters, fluke) but I actually felt running as a Defender was fairly viable. I've also been running Blessing of Light instead of Armor as I'm pretty well convinced trying to stay within the bubble is a death sentence. Instead I charge out at a funny angle and rely on my overshield to protect me. And, if I get the shotgun kill I get an even more powerful overshield! It works pretty well!

4. I had the most heartbreaking grenade throw where I was sure I finally would get to kill a Sunbreaker only to either miss with my Suppression grenade or the game decided that, nah, Sunbreakers aren't subject to the normal rules. It's actually really hard to tell. (No damage numbers from the Grenade I don't think, but I still think I got the bounce right... or should have...)

5. No video, unfortunately, but I had the most fantastic 10-kill Streak on the Dungeons map in one of the side tunnels near A or C. I can't even relate the whole thing, but it involved A shotgun kill leading to Force Barrier, whirling around and surviving a shotgun exchange with a sliver of health thanks to Force Barrier, saving myself from that with a Ward of Dawn and taking the fight to an enemy that thought he was going to wait me out, sprinting off as the heavy ammo appeared, pulling out Thunderlord and killing a close follower, returning to see an enemy take refuge in my Bubble.. except I could hear the bubble winding down so I just tore into it with Thunderlord catching him totally by surprise as his cover went away, then a few more kills as I helped defeat a counterattack on the control point. Nothing quick enough to get Shax all excited but still pretty awesome. And only something a Defender could have pulled off. :)

6. Speaking of Shax getting all excited: Almost took out 5 with a bubble and Thunderlord. Darn Golden Gun guy nailed me one bullet too soon! (Yep, Unoudid, that's where I took the lead. +895 for those kills moved me from 4th place at 2,270 to first at 3,165!)

7 Nirwen's Mercy, the Iron Banner Pulse Rifle, is pretty good. Got a drop with Life Support, Smallbore (which leaves it with a very healthy 30 rounds), and Third Eye. It's not as good as my Last Extremity or Hung Jury SR4 at long range but at midrange it is smooth and powerful. I think I've even gotten some two burst kills with it.

8. Just as dropping me into the middle of a Rumble match makes no sense, neither does having Iron Banner gear drop at anything less than 300. Remember when Bungie talked about realizing how it was bad that people would get Vault of Glass gear that they couldn't immediately equip because it had to be leveled first? This is that times ten! What the heck was I supposed to do with a 267 Titan Mark when I was already only barely hitting 294 with my best gear?? It's just bizarre, you know?

And with that I think I'm done with the Crucible for a while. Perhaps until Bungie fixes Shadowshot (saw five or so people cheating and reported them all to Bungie / Xbox Live) and does something about the Sunbreakers. (Honestly, just taking away the renewing health on a Super kill would be a limited action that I could live with...)

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by CrazedOne, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 04:31 (3564 days ago) @ Ragashingo

I think I owe you one of these
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by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 04:34 (3564 days ago) @ CrazedOne

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by Kahzgul, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 05:49 (3564 days ago) @ Ragashingo

I agree with you on all points. Okay I don't play Titan so I can't empirically say I agree that playing defender is awesome, but if more people did, then there wouldn't be as many sunbreakers, and I'd appreciate that.

I actually am not thrilled with Nirwen's Mercy, but my roll is also not great (exhumed and glass half full) plus I have a nearly perfect spare change .25 (counterbalance + perfect balance) that I can't help but compare it to.

The gear dropping below light 300 is insane to me. What a terrible decision. IB is a challenge every bit as difficult as the raid and takes waaaaaay longer, yet the drops are basically worthless because of the low light level.

Also, my new favorite blade dancer grenade is skip grenade. Just started using it two days ago and I love it. The tracking seems to be much improved, as is the range of the tracking bits. Wing a guy, he ducks around the corner, skip grenade! Seems much more effective than arcbolt.

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by Claude Errera @, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 06:13 (3564 days ago) @ Kahzgul

I actually am not thrilled with Nirwen's Mercy, but my roll is also not great (exhumed and glass half full) plus I have a nearly perfect spare change .25 (counterbalance + perfect balance) that I can't help but compare it to.

Thanks for this - I wasn't sure if the roll was random or standard. (Mine came with Third Eye and Outlaw; I think I'll enjoy it, once I can get it up to a decent light level.)

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by Funkmon @, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 12:22 (3564 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Reading this forum, I am thinking I might be too mellow.

I like dropping into half done games of rumble. It's fun seeing how far up I can get. I don't care about sunbreakers. I think defenders are fine. I don't really care that the new iron banner stuff is crap. It's been crap before and it'll be crap again.

I don't really empathize with very many complaints on this forum.

The few changes I have issues with seem to be universally praised, and the things I really don't care about in any way seem to be what people are harping on constantly.

Congrats on 10 kills though. Those are hard.

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by cheapLEY @, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:31 (3564 days ago) @ Funkmon

I like dropping into half done games of rumble. It's fun seeing how far up I can get.

I'm with you on this. It doesn't always have to be about winning. It's about fun. If someone can't have fun unless he wins (or even has a fair chance to win), then that's a completely valid position, but one I certainly don't share with him. I get that it's completely different in Iron Banner (which is where a lot of complaints are directed in this regard), but in Rumble, who cares? The matches aren't longer than five minutes anyway, so just get has high as you can, and enjoy knowing that you COULD have one if you'd have been there from the beginning.

I don't really care that the new iron banner stuff is crap. It's been crap before and it'll be crap again.

I do think that it's unfortunate that it's not higher light level for reasons that keep being brought up. However, for completely selfish reasons, I'd be okay if Bungie didn't change it. It would mean I'd never feel pressure to do Iron Banner to get something. :P

The few changes I have issues with seem to be universally praised, and the things I really don't care about in any way seem to be what people are harping on constantly.

Such as? That really piqued my curiosity.

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by Funkmon @, Sunday, October 18, 2015, 16:15 (3564 days ago) @ cheapLEY

Nothing much. I don't like the raid, for example, and don't like how complex it is. I don't like quest based exotics as much. I don't really like matchmaking in heroic strikes. The playlist format is AWFUL we all seem to agree now, but I wasn't a fan even before.

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by marmot 1333 @, Monday, October 19, 2015, 17:04 (3563 days ago) @ Funkmon

The playlist format is AWFUL we all seem to agree now

Now I'm curious. What's so awful about it?

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by Funkmon @, Monday, October 19, 2015, 18:30 (3563 days ago) @ marmot 1333

Reddit bitches about it constantly, with quitting players, limited strike choices, and needlessly difficult sections. It really is constant. It's less common this week since they're complaining about iron banner, but from launch to the week before this it was unending.

Other than that, I just hear the complaining in game. "Weeklies suck." "Yup." "Quitters." "Yup." Not much detail.

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