I think getting 2500 pts in a match is a damn hard challenge (I don't often get 20+ kills cause I like to hang back and engage at a distance).

That bounty was a pain in the ass. I thought it would be easy because I was picturing the score in terms of Control, but the points scale very differently this time around. Dur.

I also think it actually leads to less map movement. Without the incentive of capturing a B-zone, there's less reason to go to certain parts of the map, or to engage the enemy in the open areas.

Yeah, the maps definitely move differently when the objective is removed. Spawn rotation definitely helps keep things flowing, though.

Overall I like it. Not sure if I like it better or worse than Control, but the change of pace is nice. Just as long as we don't end up with Iron Banner Salvage…

When they capture a bad point in control I think "come on, dumbass."

When they perform poorly in clash, I have no animosity. They are just having a bad game, which happens to everyone.

Yeah, 2500 is HARD to do. You pretty much have to be the top scorer on your team to make that happen.

That being said, I like clash. The battle is a lot more fluid and team shotting is waaaay more important that control where you can sometimes just sneak in solo to take a point.

Yet again, Sunbreakers are destroying Iron Banner for me. Of my 10 deaths in my first game, 7 were from hammers, and most of those hammers weren't even thrown at me (they were thrown at teammates near me which is all it takes thanks to the insane splash damage). It's utter garbage. I'm pretty far towards the "Destiny PvP would be better without supers" camp, so this probably bothers me more than most other players. But I can't stand it. Not touching IB or 6v6 crucible again until they nerf Sunbreakers... which isn't happening until December.

Sigh :(

I know being on the 2nd page might make this hard to get this conversation going again, but now that I'm post-IB, I had a few thoughts I wanted to share.

1) Overall, loot dropping was much improved and made the experience a lot more fun. IB packages were great, allowed me to get all three of my characters into the mid 300s (lowest is 305, highest 308). I got a 320 ghost to drop for me, I literally yellled. Robot Chickens and Rellekh can attest to this as they were in my living room when it happened. Getting that much gear from IB made the experience worth the grind IMHO.

2) Clash was fine, except for one thing: the damn auto-spawn switching. For anyone who knows my play style, I purposely stay on the half of the map my teammates are on. I hang back and I take people out from a distance. This leads to a relatively long average life for me. I think I'm pretty close to the 1 minute mark for average life length if I remember correctly. So, frequently, I'd be the last one alive on my team; they'd all revive on the other half of the map and all of a sudden I'd go from being supported to being surrounded with no escape. On one particular occasion, I started the match with a 14-kill streak to have it ended by this. I was frequently frustrated to unscope on a target to find 2 or three triangles converging on me suddenly in the radar. That wasn't fun at all.

3) Ranking went really fast. I had all 3 characters to rank 5 by Saturday morning and I don't think I even played that much. I don't even have class items for any of my characters, so I was only getting 2/3s the possible buff. I got the titan class item to drop for me, so next IB, I'll be able to do this even faster I think.

Overall, though, this was one of the best IBs for me yet.