love that map. Completed the void portion of my Thorn quest there

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And write some epic, 100% accurate write ups.

Except for Supremacy, I guess, which is the new game mode. :D

can I have the extra 10 ;P

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Also, test all the wacky Crucible theories and my weapons without feeling like I'm letting anyone down. I mean, anyone but you guys, but you're used to me letting you down on Raids already. :D

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That would be like earning multiplayer achievements in custom games in halo. It defeats the purpose.

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According to Bungie:

Privates Matches count toward:
- Daily Bounties
- Gunsmith Test Weapons
- Crucible Rep

But not:
- Weekly Bounties
- Quests
- Record Books

To switch teams in a Private Match:

• While alive in a Private Match, enter Navigation Mode by pressing the Touchpad(PlayStation 4) or the View Button(Xbox ONE).
  
• Use the D-Pad to view the Scoreboard.
  
• Hold Right on the D-Pad to switch teams.

Headhunter?

kind of. when you die, you drop an engram.

red = enemy engrams
blue = friendly engrams

you don't get points for kills until the engram is picked up. you can deny the enemy points by picking up friendly engrams

If it's exactly like CoD:

Kills = 50 points.

Whenever someone dies, they drop an engram at the location of their death.

Picking up your teams engram = 0 points, but it's off the map.

Picking up enemy engrams = 100 points.

The game mode favors mobility and close quarters combat over ranged map control and camping. That being said, the most effective play is to have one or two snipers holding the enemy in a confined zone with 4-5 teammates running as a group to pick up all of the tags.

Even Y1 Destiny players (on current gen) can play private matches!

I see this as a positive. Remember, we are still on Destiny 1 and they are adding private matches (apparently to all current-gen players, not just those who buy RoI). This bodes well for what should be in Destiny 2 at launch, and hopefully it only gets better from there.

I bet we eventually get full customization, as well as forge in Destiny 2/3.

I think electric pirate correctly identified something deeper than that. It's not just about having options and stuff. He is talking about the philosophy of the game itself. A game set up to take from you.

They also missed one of the coolest uses for custom games: trying out guns. In a custom game, why shouldn't players be allowed to set what guns they take in, regardless of whether they have them in PvE?

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It would be neat if they let you add modifiers to change things up. Add airborne and grounded to keep everybody hopping like bunnies. Or add elemental damage bonuses to make players prefer certain weapons. We might not have as many options as Halo did, but it would still provide for some interesting game types.

We don't have Active Camo, Overshields. We don't have restricted weapon sets. The further you could go is go crazy on modifiers, but somehow I few it's not enough.

a few things that would be cool in customs:

• movement speed
  
• gravity
  
• ability recharge time (maybe this is already included? due to mayhem)
  
• infinite heavy ammo (or even just starting with heavy)
  
• swords of crota (Swords + Rift = griffball)
  
• scorch cannons
  
• juggernaut

Private matches in Halo were all about house rules and weird gametypes. While I"m sure we can do some of that in Destiny, it's kind of disappointing that they didn't include anything past the most basic match modifications.

Yeah, for now. Nothing precludes them from adding these in.

One reason Bungie has put themselves in this crazy content box, is that ALL destiny content flows from Bungie out to the players. The players ability to create content of their own was a pretty key part of Halo's longevity. Destiny has really eschewed this, even 2 years later, which is sad.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Forge ship with Halo 3? Which was a solid 6 years after the first Halo was shipped? I mean, I want it too, but let's not use the Halo time frame as evidence that we should have had it yesterday when it actually took Bungie forever to release tools for the community. A better example might be the Myth or Marathon tools.

Forge landed in 3, but both one and 2 had some really powerful options you could use to create custom gametypes. For example Halo CE let you basically make one bomb out of CTF, and Halo 2 had tons of great modes created out of it (Tower power was a favorite of mine).

I actually would be less keen on a Halo3/reach style forge, as I thought they were never fully realized as platforms, though they had a few cases where they were very important. But those gametype options were amazing for creating house games and general weird stuff. (Favorite: 400% shields, rockets, KOTH damnation. SUMO WRESTLING)

The difference now is in philosophy and where bungie wants to devote resources. While this is a step in the right direction, there isn't enough here to make me think they've actually modified their approach at all, hence my disappointment.

That raid armor will be infusion fuel. I like the Iron Wolves armor.

That's why my ideal Warlock wears the Camelot Helmet, Voidfang Vestments, Camelot Gauntlets (or the regular IB gauntlets), and Viper Spine legs (which have no Year 2 equivalent, for some reason).

I've always hated asymmetrical armor, which is unfortunately 95% of Destiny armors.

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I think it's great that custom games are finally being added. Definitely going to provide some fun opportunities.

I do wonder; how much time will people actually spend playing custom games, knowing that there are no loot rewards? There are the obvious scenarios: Tournaments, the occasional DBO vs DBO event, etc. But I wonder how many players will be willing to sink substantial time into custom matches. I could actually imagine a situation where a year from now we look back and realize that custom games ended up being one of the most wanted features that actually gets used very rarely. Especially when we think about how important "God rolls" can be to the hardcore PvP players. Outside of the occasional tournament, I bet most of those serious PvP players will be reluctant to give up the opportunity for drops, in the long run.

Remember Reach. Custom games had a nearly nonexistent cR payout, but were still super popular.

That said, Halo 4 & 5 didn't have very popular Custom Game options, and weren't really played all that much, so I guess it's all about how fun the game is on its own.

I can't imagine that "hardcore PvP players" make up the majority of the community. Plus, honor rules have always existed, so if you want, you can have a Khvostov-only match if you're playing with friends.

Reach's unlock system didn't involve elements that directly effect gameplay (armor and weapons), plus Reach's custom options were way more diverse and fully-customizable than what is being added to Destiny. So I don't think it's really a fare comparison.

I could see custom games becoming more popular over time; everyone will be clamouring for new gear right after the expansion launches, but as the months go by and drops become less important, perhaps customs will see more action.

To be clear, I don't want anyone to think I'm down on custom games or anything like that. I'm just interested in how the psychology of the player base shakes out.

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I think this is a bit more valuable, if only for the ability to use the multiplayer maps for videos and weapon / ability testing and tournaments.

I think actually most people didn't want public chat. Who wants to listen to kids yelling in their ears all day or being called a nigger by some punk who thinks racist comments are cool?