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So when did they make the drops even more dogshit? (Destiny)

by cheapLEY @, Wednesday, June 09, 2021, 17:36 (134 days ago)

I'm at 1314 Base Power. How come everything I get is 1310? Shit doesn't even drop at level anymore?

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I’m Pretty Sure That’s The Softcap.

by Morpheus @, High Charity, Wednesday, June 09, 2021, 17:42 (134 days ago) @ cheapLEY

At this point, you can focus on just the pinnacles—strikes, Nightfall, Gambit, Crucible, Prophecy, Presage, Harbinger, and the Vault of Glass.

Oh, and the Splicer Servitor bounties and the Conflux chest in Override.

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I’m Pretty Sure That’s The Softcap.

by cheapLEY @, Wednesday, June 09, 2021, 17:59 (134 days ago) @ Morpheus

Yes, 1310 is the soft cap. That didn't used to prevent stuff from dropping at your power level once you had broken through the soft cap. At 1314, I would have previously been getting 1312 or 1313 drops from regular engrams, but only Pinnacles would have dropped above that.

Maybe it's been like it is currently for a while--I only usually get a few levels into the Pinnacle climb before I just stop giving a shit.

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Yeah, I think only powerfuls drop at-light

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, June 10, 2021, 05:56 (133 days ago) @ cheapLEY

And then pinnacles over it

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Yeah, I think only powerfuls drop at-light

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, June 10, 2021, 09:42 (133 days ago) @ ZackDark

I think I’ve yet to hit max light in D2.

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Yeah, I think only powerfuls drop at-light

by cheapLEY @, Thursday, June 10, 2021, 09:46 (133 days ago) @ ZackDark

Yes, my question is “since when?” It didn’t previously work that way.

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by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, June 10, 2021, 11:49 (133 days ago) @ cheapLEY

I don't remember every purple dropping at light after pinnacles became a thing, but I do share your impression that it was more common.

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by cheapLEY @, Thursday, June 10, 2021, 13:06 (133 days ago) @ ZackDark

I don't remember every purple dropping at light after pinnacles became a thing, but I do share your impression that it was more common.

I have to assume it might have been with Beyond Light, or perhaps the season following. I think Beyond Light was when they nerfed turning in Tokens to Zavala and Shaxx to get on level drops, so maybe this change was at the same time. With Beyond Light and last season, I basically got to the start of the Pinnacle climb and just stopped paying attention, so I never noticed the change.

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Yeah, I think only powerfuls drop at-light

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Friday, June 11, 2021, 07:48 (132 days ago) @ cheapLEY

Yes, my question is “since when?” It didn’t previously work that way.

I feel like it's been two seasons or so since they changed to that system (post 1300 soft cap), and it especially sucks that it no longer kicks in at the soft cap like before (or rather, it likely still uses the 1230 Beyond Light softcap as the basis for Legendaries being on-level).

In slowing down the people at cap at the end of each season, Bungie has outright punished anyone below that level with an increased grind, which is poop.

Yeah, I think only powerfuls drop at-light

by electricpirate @, Wednesday, June 16, 2021, 12:41 (127 days ago) @ Korny

Yes, my question is “since when?” It didn’t previously work that way.


I feel like it's been two seasons or so since they changed to that system (post 1300 soft cap), and it especially sucks that it no longer kicks in at the soft cap like before (or rather, it likely still uses the 1230 Beyond Light softcap as the basis for Legendaries being on-level).

In slowing down the people at cap at the end of each season, Bungie has outright punished anyone below that level with an increased grind, which is poop.

Legendaries/rares are on level until 1310, minus vendor drops which are always 20 behind. IMO that's fine, it really doesn't take long to ffind a drop for a gap, especially if you do something like pvp.

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Yeah, I think only powerfuls drop at-light

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Thursday, June 17, 2021, 08:58 (126 days ago) @ electricpirate

Yes, my question is “since when?” It didn’t previously work that way.


I feel like it's been two seasons or so since they changed to that system (post 1300 soft cap), and it especially sucks that it no longer kicks in at the soft cap like before (or rather, it likely still uses the 1230 Beyond Light softcap as the basis for Legendaries being on-level).

In slowing down the people at cap at the end of each season, Bungie has outright punished anyone below that level with an increased grind, which is poop.


Legendaries/rares are on level until 1310, minus vendor drops which are always 20 behind. IMO that's fine, it really doesn't take long to ffind a drop for a gap, especially if you do something like pvp.

Don’t think that’s the case anymore. At 1283 base, Legendaries/Umbrals/rares are dropping at 1281, Consistently two below your base level. Given that you can also no longer pull at-level armor from the Season Pass, leveling is almost entirely relegated to Primes and Pinnacles, even on your way to the soft cap, which was previously not the case

I’m Pretty Sure That’s The Softcap.

by electricpirate @, Wednesday, June 16, 2021, 12:38 (127 days ago) @ cheapLEY

Yes, 1310 is the soft cap. That didn't used to prevent stuff from dropping at your power level once you had broken through the soft cap. At 1314, I would have previously been getting 1312 or 1313 drops from regular engrams, but only Pinnacles would have dropped above that.

Maybe it's been like it is currently for a while--I only usually get a few levels into the Pinnacle climb before I just stop giving a shit.

It's been like this since shadowkeep, or maybe it was even harsher then.

Pinnacles advance the power, and powerfuls drop at power level.

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I’m Pretty Sure That’s The Softcap.

by cheapLEY @, Wednesday, June 16, 2021, 13:43 (127 days ago) @ electricpirate

I do not think that’s true. I feel like I remember stuff in the Contact public event dropping at my power level.

I’m Pretty Sure That’s The Softcap.

by electricpirate @, Wednesday, June 16, 2021, 14:07 (127 days ago) @ cheapLEY

I do not think that’s true. I feel like I remember stuff in the Contact public event dropping at my power level.

They described this change in the twab before shadowkeep, https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/48188

The Power bands for Season 8 are as follows
Floor: 750
Soft Cap: 900
All drops up to this point will be upgrades to the most powerful item in your inventory or vault
Beyond this point, only powerful and pinnacle rewards will increase a player’s Power
Powerful Cap: 950
All non-powerful/pinnacle rewards are capped at 950
Pinnacle rewards are the only way to raise Power above this point
Powerful rewards are equivalent to the character’s highest-equippable Power beyond this point
Pinnacle Cap: 960
This is the highest Power at which gear drops; also known as the “hard cap”
The Seasonal Artifact bonus Power allows characters to attain values above this level

I didn't really play arrivals, so I'm not sure if there were some sneaky powerfuls in there. I do know that Crucible/Strikes/Gambit have a random chance of dropping a powerful on completion so that can make it confusing too.

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I’m Pretty Sure That’s The Softcap.

by cheapLEY @, Wednesday, June 16, 2021, 14:29 (127 days ago) @ electricpirate

I guess that was the first time we saw Umbral engrams, and Contact handed them out like candy. Maybe those were all technically tier 1 Powerfuls? Focusing them dropped their power, so I never did and I swear they were dropping on level, but maybe I’m wrong.

In any case, I don’t think I even got close to the Pinnacle climb during that year except for Arrivals, so I just never noticed the change.

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by Vortech @, A Fourth Wheel, Sunday, June 20, 2021, 12:50 (123 days ago) @ cheapLEY

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by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Sunday, June 20, 2021, 13:40 (123 days ago) @ Vortech

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It made me click a frowny face and tried to make feel like a dick because I choose to block ads.

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by Claude Errera @, Monday, June 21, 2021, 09:11 (122 days ago) @ Cody Miller

https://destinyoptimizer.com


It made me click a frowny face and tried to make feel like a dick because I choose to block ads.

Hosting costs money. They built a nice tool, but don't happen to be rich enough to pay all of the costs, and know that if they made their tool subscription-based, they'd get 0 visitors. So they opted for ads.

I bet if you sent them $20 via paypal they'd find a way to remove that notification for you.

Or you could just bitch that they made you acknowledge that you want something for free without any inconvenience at all.

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by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Monday, June 21, 2021, 13:32 (122 days ago) @ Claude Errera

I have maintained and upgraded a version of Robot Chicken's spreadsheet ever since he posted. It basically tells you the same thing this site does, I guess, with a little more granularity.

Check it out

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by Claude Errera @, Monday, June 21, 2021, 13:42 (122 days ago) @ ZackDark

I have maintained and upgraded a version of Robot Chicken's spreadsheet ever since he posted. It basically tells you the same thing this site does, I guess, with a little more granularity.

Check it out

That's great - but it has the downside that you need to input your data manually.

I use

https://destiny-power-bars.corke.dev/

I don't see any ads, but I MIGHT be blocking them, not sure.

There are lots and lots of good tools out there. Some of them run ads to pay the bills, some are run by people who simply absorb the costs. I don't really have an opinion either way about this - I was just struck by the entitlement of Cody's post. :)

(I mean, to be fair, he doesn't even play this game any more!)

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https://destinyoptimizer.com

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, June 21, 2021, 13:56 (122 days ago) @ Claude Errera

I have maintained and upgraded a version of Robot Chicken's spreadsheet ever since he posted. It basically tells you the same thing this site does, I guess, with a little more granularity.

Check it out


That's great - but it has the downside that you need to input your data manually.

I use

https://destiny-power-bars.corke.dev/

I don't see any ads, but I MIGHT be blocking them, not sure.

There are lots and lots of good tools out there. Some of them run ads to pay the bills, some are run by people who simply absorb the costs. I don't really have an opinion either way about this - I was just struck by the entitlement of Cody's post. :)

(I mean, to be fair, he doesn't even play this game any more!)

That’s why I can do it! Because I’m not using the tool :-) So I’d have to see ads without getting anything in return!

https://destinyoptimizer.com

by Claude Errera @, Monday, June 21, 2021, 14:08 (122 days ago) @ Cody Miller

I have maintained and upgraded a version of Robot Chicken's spreadsheet ever since he posted. It basically tells you the same thing this site does, I guess, with a little more granularity.

Check it out


That's great - but it has the downside that you need to input your data manually.

I use

https://destiny-power-bars.corke.dev/

I don't see any ads, but I MIGHT be blocking them, not sure.

There are lots and lots of good tools out there. Some of them run ads to pay the bills, some are run by people who simply absorb the costs. I don't really have an opinion either way about this - I was just struck by the entitlement of Cody's post. :)

(I mean, to be fair, he doesn't even play this game any more!)


That’s why I can do it! Because I’m not using the tool :-) So I’d have to see ads without getting anything in return!

Or... you could follow the link, see that you're not happy with the tradeoff, realize that you don't need the service in the first place because you don't play the game, and close the window without complaining about it here.

That's an option too. :)

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by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, June 21, 2021, 14:19 (122 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Or... you could follow the link, see that you're not happy with the tradeoff, realize that you don't need the service in the first place because you don't play the game, and close the window without complaining about it here.

That's an option too. :)

I'M JUST BUSTING BALLS

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by cheapLEY @, Monday, June 21, 2021, 21:14 (122 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Or... you could follow the link, see that you're not happy with the tradeoff, realize that you don't need the service in the first place because you don't play the game, and close the window without complaining about it here.

That's an option too. :)

Well now you’re just being ridiculous.

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by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, June 21, 2021, 13:54 (122 days ago) @ ZackDark

You’re pretty cool, you know that right?

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