I'm... not sure I understand the logic. (Destiny)

by Claude Errera @, Monday, May 08, 2023, 22:22 (341 days ago)

This was the (Destinytracker.com-calculated) ELO for the two teams that met in my final Trials game this weekend:

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I get the concept of card-based matchmaking; it makes sense for a mode like Trials. I also get the idea that the most efficient balancing will often put the best player on a team with the two worst players, and make that person feel like he's carrying the whole time... and that Bungie is trying to avoid that, when possible.

What I don't get is this level of stacking. The HIGHEST ELO on the losing team was (significantly) below the LOWEST ELO on the winning team. The chances of a Bravo win was 3%, as calculated by DestinyTracker. I'd probably say it was actually closer to zero.

This would have been my lighthouse game. (I was on the losing team, so it was not.)

Ah, well.

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I'm... not sure I understand the logic.

by squidnh3, Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 09:55 (339 days ago) @ Claude Errera

I get the concept of card-based matchmaking; it makes sense for a mode like Trials. I also get the idea that the most efficient balancing will often put the best player on a team with the two worst players, and make that person feel like he's carrying the whole time... and that Bungie is trying to avoid that, when possible.

I thought the point was the Bungie is not trying to avoid or create that situation - there should be no team balancing in Trials at all. In which case, this was the (bad) luck of the draw.

I'm... not sure I understand the logic.

by Claude Errera @, Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 10:02 (339 days ago) @ squidnh3

I get the concept of card-based matchmaking; it makes sense for a mode like Trials. I also get the idea that the most efficient balancing will often put the best player on a team with the two worst players, and make that person feel like he's carrying the whole time... and that Bungie is trying to avoid that, when possible.


I thought the point was the Bungie is not trying to avoid or create that situation - there should be no team balancing in Trials at all. In which case, this was the (bad) luck of the draw.

I'd have to go back and read their recent comments on that - I must have misunderstood.

It feels like more than bad luck - it's the third Trials week in a row where this has happened to me on the game that WOULD be the 7th win (and while it's happened in other places in the series, that's the only consistent place). I mean, 3 data points is STILL bad luck, not a real pattern... but it feels bad, man. (The previous two weeks I tried again, and was successful the second time around. This time, I gave up.)

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