Update is up... (Destiny)

by ChrisTheeCrappy, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 17:37 (3103 days ago)

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banshee will sell weapons parts for glimmer soon

by Schedonnardus, Texas, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 17:42 (3103 days ago) @ ChrisTheeCrappy

Sometime in December, Eris will take worm spore and petra will take etheric light. though they didn't say what they will be traded for yet.

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Weapon parts will be for sale in November actually

by Xenos @, Shores of Time, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 17:55 (3103 days ago) @ Schedonnardus

The rest in December though

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Weapon parts will be for sale in November actually

by Schedonnardus, Texas, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 18:00 (3103 days ago) @ Xenos

eh. I originally planned on a *NM* post. "Soon" implying the next update. Then i though "if i don't mention the december updates, someone will say 'why didn't you mention eris and petra?" so i added the text without changing the title.

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Haha, makes sense

by Xenos @, Shores of Time, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 18:06 (3103 days ago) @ Schedonnardus

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banshee will sell weapons parts for glimmer soon

by TheeChaos @, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 17:58 (3103 days ago) @ Schedonnardus

Sometime in December, Eris will take worm spore and petra will take etheric light. though they didn't say what they will be traded for yet.

Hopefully the etheric light is for something good. As useful as motes or coins would be, I feel like when i earned my etheric light, it was valued at much more. Also if its worth it, it would make running PoE again worth while, assuming it still gives etheric light.

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banshee will sell weapons parts for glimmer soon

by stabbim @, Des Moines, IA, USA, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 19:54 (3103 days ago) @ TheeChaos

My first guess was rep, since I've hear more than a few people complain that repping up with Petra and Eris is slow. But I hope you're right, because it does seem like etheric light is more valuable than that. It would have to be a LOT of rep per unit for that to seem fair.

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huh?

by slycrel ⌂, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 20:28 (3103 days ago) @ stabbim

rep with eris is easy -- go hang out at the court of oryx. if you join events you get eris rep. 25, 50, 100 each event I think for the three tiers.

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DMV HELL?!

by UnrealCh13f @, San Luis Obispo, CA, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 18:39 (3103 days ago) @ ChrisTheeCrappy

imSuck, you're awesome. Keep on doing these.

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DMV HELL?!

by MacAddictXIV @, Seattle WA, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 18:52 (3103 days ago) @ UnrealCh13f

I liked it, but maybe because I'm spoiled, but I thought the Halo ones were better. I did however LOVE some of them.

It could also be that I didn't know like half of the songs.

That's because you're old

by Earendil, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 20:47 (3103 days ago) @ MacAddictXIV

And you have a yard. And you want the kids off it. Damn kids.


Actually, I did find that this one was not as funny as my favorite Halo one, but I thought it was more clever.

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Pwned by Big Bro!

by red robber @, Crawfish Country, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 21:38 (3103 days ago) @ Earendil

And you have a yard. And you want the kids off it. Damn kids.

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Wow

by stabbim @, Des Moines, IA, USA, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 19:45 (3103 days ago) @ UnrealCh13f

I just noticed the vid myself. That's a name I haven't heard in a very long time. Pretty excited to watch!

After watching this, and old HMV Hells...

by Earendil, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 23:22 (3103 days ago) @ UnrealCh13f

It's painfully obvious how much creativity imsuck can't display because there is no cinematic film recording or HUDless recording. He did manage to do an awesome job avoiding the HUD and not letting it rune too much, and it gets two thumbs up. Still, if you watch HMV Hell Reach (my personal favorite) then watch DMV, it's a lot more obvious how the shots are limited.

Filming aside, I thought the last real song about "waving hello" was awesome. It's the sort of scene that is special to a Destiny player and would never work in Halo. I've certainly been there where I've wanted a rando to join me, or acknowledge me, and instead watched them drive on by. Other times my failing efforts in a community area are bolstered by reinforcements from the internet. All we ever get is a wave hello. It's awesome :)

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After watching this, and old HMV Hells...

by MacAddictXIV @, Seattle WA, Friday, November 06, 2015, 12:42 (3103 days ago) @ Earendil

It's painfully obvious how much creativity imsuck can't display because there is no cinematic film recording or HUDless recording. He did manage to do an awesome job avoiding the HUD and not letting it rune too much, and it gets two thumbs up. Still, if you watch HMV Hell Reach (my personal favorite) then watch DMV, it's a lot more obvious how the shots are limited.

Oh HMV Hell, so good. "Sexy Bitch" is so classic... So well done. That's right, now you have to watch it to know what the heck I'm talking about.

Completely Off-Topic (Music Trivia)

by marmot 1333 @, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 19:49 (3103 days ago) @ ChrisTheeCrappy

In that Carl Sagan Destiny mash-up, I was very excited when I realized the background music was the first track off the excellent album, In a Safe Place, by the super-chill band* The Album Leaf.

In a Safe Place on Spotify

This album was recorded in Iceland at Sigur Ros's recording studio. It is reportedly built around an empty swimming pool, which lends some of the interesting reverb effects heard on Sigur Ros albums and this The Album Leaf album. The Sigur Ros guys also guest-played on a lot of tracks on this album.

I bought this album on CD in 2005 and listened to it a lot in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. It's a solid album throughout and great music for work that involves intense thought or concentration. The second song is a lot like the first (which is featured in the video)--same key, same chord progression, a melody that evolves out of it--but has a totally sick beat, brah.

*: The Album Leaf is actually mostly one guy--James LaVelle--and he was previously in the California-based instrumental rock band Tristeza. (Not as good as The Album Leaf in my opinion, but worth looking up if you like guitar-led instrumental rock.)

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More off topic (geography trivia)

by Funkmon @, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 21:14 (3103 days ago) @ marmot 1333
edited by Funkmon, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 21:19

In that Carl Sagan Destiny mash-up, I was very excited when I realized the background music was the first track off the excellent album, In a Safe Place, by the super-chill band* The Album Leaf.

In a Safe Place on Spotify

This album was recorded in Iceland at Sigur Ros's recording studio. It is reportedly built around an empty swimming pool, which lends some of the interesting reverb effects heard on Sigur Ros albums and this The Album Leaf album. The Sigur Ros guys also guest-played on a lot of tracks on this album.


The second song on the record is called Thule. This, as many know, is the name for a mythical land six days sail north of the British Isles. In the middle ages and in Latin, it's often used as a name for Iceland, leading some people to believe that the Britons, in the fourth century BC, knew of Iceland, or that at least one Greek visited. Of course, this isn't the case.

Thule wasn't identified as Iceland until the 700s, when it was described as the large island beyond what are probably the Faroe islands, but the name had been attributed to tons of places by then already, like north of the Eurasian steppes, Norway, et cetera. Some think the people living there were Pictish, but it's really unlikely, not only due to geographical issues, but also chronological ones. However, upon the discovery of Iceland, it was easily attributed there upon cursory knowledge of the legend.

The question then becomes, where did the idea come from?

A Greek guy called Pytheas went on a journey around Europe and wrote about Thule, saying it was six days north of Britain, and the most northerly of the British isles. No surviving texts of his exist, but another Greek guy, Strabo, uses him extensively as a source, and in general thinks Pytheas was a liar, but due to the uniqueness of the account, has to use him. We have Strabo's records, plus a few others. Many think Pytheas was a liar.

However, modern geography and science has proven he's not all bad. For example, he claimed to have visited Britain and explored the entirety of it (giving the ancients the names Kent, Britain, and Orkney in the process), with a perimeter of 40000 stadia. Everyone thought this was too large, but the coastline is actually about 60% longer than that. It works out fine. There's a few other solutions to this as well.

The didn't believe him about Thule, either, since nobody else wrote about it. Some think it's just because he was the first guy to show up there. This makes sense, since he was also the first guy to show up in the Baltic (which Strabo doesn't believe either), and he more or less correctly describes how amber is gathered and provides the first encounter with the Goths.

So, if Pytheas wasn't necessarily a liar, where's Thule?

Possibly Norway. Pytheas took a bunch of measurements, which have been altered over time by others to try to create maps. Ptolemy used some crappy ones, for example, and made Scotland lopsided. This was done to reconcile some perceived issues. Pytheas had to use very complicated angles to give distance on the sea, from a baseline of Marseilles. The north star wasn't there at the time, and its location could only be roughly guessed at. As a result, we're not exactly sure the latitude Pytheas measured, but from what we have today, it's probably around 65 degrees north.

That may be perceived to be a problem, since Thule was reportedly so far north that the sun never set. However, as far as we can tell, Pytheas never said that. While he was the first to describe the midnight sun (as well as sea ice), he only said that the sun barely set, and the nights were only a few hours long. The barbarians showed him exactly where the sun set and rose (presumably) on the summer solstice. Using these methods of latitude by longest time of day, it does seem Pytheas accurately got the north of Scotland, the Shetland islands, and possibly Trondheim, Norway, a coastal settlement at the right latitude that was inhabited. Fridtjof Nansen thinks he showed up a little farther south, somewhere in Møre og Romsdal.

Assuming Pytheas thought Trondheim was part of the British Isles, his measurements can be taken literally. He describes the island like a triangle, and therefore made triangular measurements. Some modern scholars think the shape was simplified but the measurements largely accurate, some think that Pytheas may have stated it in sailing times that was translated to distance, which is not good, but still others, who subscribe to the Thule is Norway theory, think it was literally a triangle, and literally correct. If one part of the triangle was in NORWAY, then the measurements work out very well. The numbers match. When the numbers match, it's likely to be the case, however keep in mind the OPERA FTL neutrinos experiment, where the error from prediction to observation was similar to not taking relativity into account for the GPS satellites, but the source of error was something else entirely.

Furthermore, Pytheas had no good way of figuring out his longitude, and continually made errors of things being west or east of where they really are. He also uses north as not the cardinal direction, but more like "more north than." This is possibly as a result of not being able to determine anything but latitude with a modicum of reliability. Pytheas sailed all around the Baltic, but had no reason to conclude that Thule was not a large island. To find it out, he would have had to do some insane exploring. Scandinavia was thought to be an island for a long time.

So, the name "Thule" as a poetic name for Iceland, as may have been meant in the song, as a result of recording in Iceland, is a misnomer.

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if you like guitar-led instrumental rock.

I do. I looked up Tristeza. I do not like this band. Too bad. They're very artsy it seems like. I understand why people like them though.

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More off topic (geography trivia)

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, November 05, 2015, 21:42 (3103 days ago) @ Funkmon

Completely out of the blue, yet thoroughly entertaining. Keep 'em coming, sock non-eater.

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More off topic (geography trivia)

by Funkmon @, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 21:50 (3103 days ago) @ ZackDark
edited by Funkmon, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 21:54

For more information, the entirety of the second chapter of the first volume of Nansen's In Northern Mists is about Pytheas.

https://archive.org/details/innorthernmistsa01nans

Very Cool, thanks

by marmot 1333 @, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 22:06 (3103 days ago) @ Funkmon

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No, I think they make backpacks.

by Vortech @, A Fourth Wheel, Thursday, November 05, 2015, 23:03 (3103 days ago) @ Funkmon

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Reverb Music Recommendation

by cheapLEY @, Friday, November 06, 2015, 12:55 (3103 days ago) @ marmot 1333

They don't sound anything like The Album Leaf, but one of my favorite bands of the last few years has an excellent reverb sound, which they obtained by recording in an abandoned church (they also make great use of its organ!).

I don't anticipate many folks liking them, due to the extremely odd vocal work, but it works for me. They are no longer a band, which is disappointing, but maybe it's better that way.

WU LYF on Spotify.

I highly recommend headphones.

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