I think year 2 is better (Destiny)

by Durandal, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 16:39 (3414 days ago) @ slycrel

Obviously there are issues with year 2, but the comparison to year one weapons isn't fair. I rocked the heck out of last word in year one not because it was OP but because it was a amazingly fun gun. Just recall in year one we had:

Slow firing Autorifles dominate (Suros), then had them nerfed. Then we had hand cannons/scout rifles dominate. Vision of Confluence was everywhere, and Fatebringer, Word of Crota, The Devil You Know, Chance, were all viable and common weapons. Shotguns didn't start do dominate until fusion rifles were taken down a notch. Snipers did dominate when you could use armor piercing rounds to shoot through cover.

Year two has a much larger variety of perks and ways to change up gun behavior. We have more variety in the combination of those perks with different gun manufacturers getting different column options.

The problem in year 2 is mainly that the the low skill weapons also have the best time to kill. Fast auto/pulse and last word are the lowest TTK, and they don't require the precision head shots that would make scouts/HCs comparable. The reason HCs started to dominate in Year 1 was that you could get those 2 body 1 headshot for the kill fairly easily. Now in year 2 the range reduction makes half your bullets vanish and makes it too hard to get those kills when you are getting sprayed by DoP/Armenius.

Likewise Snipers scope too fast and can take out people at even close ranges. Shotguns can compete in close, but fusions charge time just kills them.

I think you could probably make the current crucible meta work well if:

1. HCs gave far more flinch, and suffered less flinch, per hit, slight increase in range.
2. Reduction in range for the fast auto rifle archetype. Larger mags for the slow firing ones.
3. Longer scope in time for snipers, suffer more flinch when scoped in.
4. Fusion rifles fire more bolts per burst, slight improvements to range.

I would also like to see Omalon guns with perks that interact with the characters's grenades/melee/super/jump. Suros with more perks that enhance accuracy and stability, and Hakke with more ammo/pickup and bullet hit effects. Just to really broaden the selection more.

I would also love to see the various venders do an arms day thing like banshee. Since we have so many perks you really need some rerolling or high drop rates to get rolls people would consider.