
Huh? (Destiny)
Part of your point though is confirmation bias. Bungie fixes a rather large amount of issues within a week or two of them being discovered, we just forget about them because they are gone so fast (and because, as all people do, when making a point we more easily remember the ones that support our claim).
A few examples:
* Sterling Treasure Box fix (which basically fixed a ONE time event)
* Crimson Days Ghosts (this wasn't even a bug, it was just to make us happy)
* Exotic Leg engrams not decrypting, SRL Record Book issue (same patch I believe)
* Unlimited Shadowshot
* Mythoclast unnerfThese are just off the top of my head. If you go browse the patch notes section on Bungie.net you'll find a lot more. Yes some issues take a long time to fix, but the fact that they DO fix so many so fast means those issues must be more difficult than we think to fix.
Totally valid point. I have my own theories about why certain changes take so much longer than others, but that's all they are: theories. This is totally just my own gut feeling, but I find that many of the tweaks that take a long time to deliver are design-changes rather than bugs or broken systems (IB drops being one of the exceptions). I've been reading a bit lately about the balance of instinct-driven design vs data-driven design, and the read I get from Bungie is that a lot of the changes we see are very data driven. They'll hear the community scream "ZOMG NERF EXOTIC HAND CANNONS" and so they'll spend months gathering data on how those weapons perform in the crucible before they decide to make a change or not. Which can sometimes be tough for some players to understand, because some of us feel like "why all the research? we could tell it was overpowered after using the thing for 10 minutes!" Some studios/designers base these kinds of decisions more on instinct. They focus more on the perceived experience of the individual player "Does it feel overpowered? Than it is, regardless of what the data says". For better or for worse, I get the sense that Bungie prefers taking their time to analyze all the data before making such changes. And that takes time.
Complete thread:
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 18:29
- Wow, you're more bitter than us and you're not even playing!
- Xenos, 2016-05-19, 18:39
- Wow, you're more bitter than us and you're not even playing! - Cody Miller, 2016-05-19, 18:41
- Not wrong though, sadly
- someotherguy, 2016-05-19, 21:49
- Meh, I mostly agree with Korny, Y2 has not disappointed me
- Xenos, 2016-05-19, 21:50
- Meh, I mostly agree with Korny, Y2 has not disappointed me
- Working out just fine. -
Korny,
2016-05-19, 19:17
- Cody only plays raids anyway
- Blackt1g3r, 2016-05-19, 19:29
- Working out just fine. - Cody Miller, 2016-05-19, 19:45
- Comparing Destiny to itself is fine, but... -
Ragashingo,
2016-05-19, 23:51
- ::beer toast::
- ZackDark, 2016-05-20, 00:01
- Comparing Destiny to itself is fine, but... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 00:08
- Comparing Destiny to itself is fine, but... -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 00:23
- Comparing Destiny to itself is fine, but... - stabbim, 2016-05-20, 03:12
- Yep. Totally fair point. - Ragashingo, 2016-05-20, 00:25
- Comparing Destiny to itself is fine, but... -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 00:23
- Two Words - CyberKN, 2016-05-20, 00:10
- ::beer toast::
- Cody only plays raids anyway
- How's that new model working out? -
General Battuta,
2016-05-19, 19:47
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 19:49
- How's that new model working out? - Earendil, 2016-05-21, 01:34
- How's that new model working out? -
Kermit,
2016-05-19, 19:59
- How's that new model working out? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-19, 20:09
- Aren't all Non-UbiArt Ubi games just reskins of AC? -
someotherguy,
2016-05-19, 21:53
- Pretty much :-/
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-05-20, 00:08
- I want another SC: Blacklist-style game soooo bad.
- CyberKN, 2016-05-20, 00:11
- Wait, was Blacklist good? -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 01:29
- Yes, very much so - ZackDark, 2016-05-20, 02:04
- Wait, was Blacklist good? - CyberKN, 2016-05-20, 02:27
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 02:40
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 02:59
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... -
Phoenix_9286,
2016-05-20, 08:35
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 11:15
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... - Kermit, 2016-05-23, 17:34
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 11:15
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... -
Phoenix_9286,
2016-05-20, 08:35
- Blacklist is my favourite SplinterCell game... -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 02:59
- Wait, was Blacklist good? -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 01:29
- I want another SC: Blacklist-style game soooo bad.
- Pretty much :-/
- Aren't all Non-UbiArt Ubi games just reskins of AC? -
someotherguy,
2016-05-19, 21:53
- How's that new model working out? - dogcow, 2016-05-19, 20:17
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 20:48
- How's that new model working out? - Kermit, 2016-05-20, 13:18
- How's that new model working out? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-19, 20:09
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 19:49
- How's that new model working out? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-19, 19:55
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 20:35
- How's that new model working out? -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-19, 21:53
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 22:09
- How's that new model working out? - Kahzgul, 2016-05-20, 22:09
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 22:09
- How's that new model working out? - Vortech, 2016-05-19, 23:53
- How's that new model working out? -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-19, 21:53
- How's that new model working out? - cheapLEY, 2016-05-19, 22:03
- How's that new model working out? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-19, 20:35
- How's that new model working out? - peaksutah, 2016-05-19, 20:11
- I wish I loved anything as much as you love Destiny. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-05-19, 22:51
- lul
- Funkmon, 2016-05-20, 04:41
- lul
- Huh? -
narcogen,
2016-05-19, 23:40
- Huh? -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 01:26
- I thought you hadn't played the game.
- Funkmon, 2016-05-20, 06:27
- I thought you hadn't played the game. -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 12:57
- You didn't play any of the new stuff from April. - Funkmon, 2016-05-20, 19:37
- I thought you hadn't played the game. -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 12:57
- Huh? -
narcogen,
2016-05-20, 13:09
- Huh? -
Xenos,
2016-05-20, 13:38
- Huh? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 14:38
- Huh? -
Xenos,
2016-05-20, 15:20
- Huh? - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-05-20, 15:30
- Huh? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 15:33
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 16:57
- Huh? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 17:12
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 17:47
- Huh? - Korny, 2016-05-20, 18:18
- Huh? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 18:23
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 18:37
- Huh? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 18:38
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 18:43
- Huh? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 18:54
- Huh? - Claude Errera, 2016-05-20, 19:07
- Huh? -
Xenos,
2016-05-20, 19:00
- True enough.
- Claude Errera, 2016-05-20, 19:10
- Excellent point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 19:14
- Excellent point -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 19:57
- FYI, #1 directly conflicts with your previous stance
- ZackDark, 2016-05-20, 19:59
- Which is why I listed it as the least best option.
- Cody Miller, 2016-05-20, 20:00
- Which is why I listed it as the least best option.
- I vote #2, it's the option WE can control.
- dogcow, 2016-05-23, 14:43
- FYI, #1 directly conflicts with your previous stance
- Excellent point -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 19:57
- True enough.
- Huh? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 18:54
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 18:43
- Huh? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 18:38
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 18:37
- Huh? - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-05-20, 18:46
- Huh? - Cody Miller, 2016-05-20, 18:06
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 17:47
- Huh? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 17:12
- Huh? -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 16:57
- Huh? -
Xenos,
2016-05-20, 15:20
- Huh? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 14:38
- Huh? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 14:13
- Huh? - marmot 1333, 2016-05-20, 16:05
- Huh? - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-05-20, 14:18
- Yes, Bungie stated that Eververse would fund Live Team -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-20, 14:22
- Yes, Bungie stated that Eververse would fund Live Team -
Korny,
2016-05-20, 14:49
- Yes, Bungie stated that Eververse would fund Live Team - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-05-20, 14:59
- Yes, Bungie stated that Eververse would fund Live Team - Cody Miller, 2016-05-20, 15:35
- Yes, Bungie stated that Eververse would fund Live Team -
Korny,
2016-05-20, 14:49
- Huh? -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 14:51
- +1000 - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-05-20, 14:57
- Huh? -
Xenos,
2016-05-20, 13:38
- I thought you hadn't played the game.
- Huh? -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-20, 01:26
- Maybe too many people heeded your words? -
Ragashingo,
2016-05-19, 23:52
- Maybe too many people heeded your words? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 15:36
- Maybe too many people heeded your words? -
Ragashingo,
2016-05-20, 15:39
- Maybe too many people heeded your words? - Cody Miller, 2016-05-20, 15:47
- Easy. -
Korny,
2016-05-20, 16:44
- Easy. -
CyberKN,
2016-05-20, 16:59
- Easy. -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 17:03
- Easy. - cheapLEY, 2016-05-20, 17:11
- Easy. - CyberKN, 2016-05-20, 17:22
- Easy. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 18:01
- Difference between Expansion Packs and Downloadable Content?
- kidtsunami, 2016-05-23, 12:47
- All EPs are DLC, but not all DLCs are EPs,
- Korny, 2016-05-23, 13:29
- All EPs are DLC, but not all DLCs are EPs, - Cody Miller, 2016-05-23, 15:45
- All EPs are DLC, but not all DLCs are EPs,
- Difference between Expansion Packs and Downloadable Content?
- Easy. - Korny, 2016-05-20, 17:13
- Easy. -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-20, 17:03
- Solution -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 17:57
- But the new players will play with such a small crowd
- kidtsunami, 2016-05-23, 18:35
- But the new players will play with such a small crowd
- Easy. -
CyberKN,
2016-05-20, 16:59
- Maybe too many people heeded your words? -
Ragashingo,
2016-05-20, 15:39
- Maybe too many people heeded your words? -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-20, 15:36
- Unrelated question. - ProbablyLast, 2016-05-20, 16:19
- Wow, you're more bitter than us and you're not even playing!