
What happened? (Destiny)
Didn't they do a ViDoc before Destiny launched about how great Grognok was?
Well and it is for most things. They had a few goals they were trying to achieve with their tools that they talk about in the GDC presentation, and the one they admit they failed on (pretty badly) was being able to make changes quickly. The tool itself is still awesome because it lets you design very quickly and fluidly, and I'm sure they thought with the original idea they had about content in the game it wouldn't become TOO big of a hindrance. I'm sure they weren't happy with it, but they thought it was workable. Then on the first weekend there was pretty universal hatred for the first event they released, and then demands for actual new content after that came much more quickly and insistently than they expected.
This is a great point. They hadn't built a game with dynamic, live events before, and they weren't prepared to actually design, implement, test, fix, test, and publish new content at the rate in which they really should have been. Furthermore Bungie has never made a "bring your own guns" pvp shooter, and they had not thought about how to respond to balance issues nimbly.
Events like Crimson Doubles were probably a CRAPLOAD of work for Bungie because of how crappy their tools were set up, even though to the rest of us it just looked like a reskin of the tower. But I bet that was a month of work for for the live team for basically no payoff in terms of actual new content.
All of this ties in to why SRL was so amazing (not just amazingly fun, but amazing in the sense that they were even able to implement it to begin with) and why I'm so disappointed that it hasn't come back.
Complete thread:
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 02:57
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-23, 05:22
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
petetheduck,
2016-06-23, 08:47
- Agreed. - breitzen, 2016-06-23, 12:11
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
Kermit,
2016-06-23, 12:31
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
bluerunner,
2016-06-23, 13:11
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
slycrel,
2016-06-23, 13:23
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:10
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:32
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
dogcow,
2016-06-23, 15:34
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:43
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other - dogcow, 2016-06-23, 15:51
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:43
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:39
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:41
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- ^ This ^ -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 15:51
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 17:42
- ^ This ^ -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 17:52
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 17:59
- That's a very interesting observation - ZackDark, 2016-06-23, 18:02
- ^ This ^ - Cody Miller, 2016-06-23, 18:31
- ^ This ^ -
uberfoop,
2016-06-23, 18:31
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 18:32
- What?? -
marmot 1333,
2016-06-24, 00:00
- "source" in air quotes - CyberKN, 2016-06-24, 01:06
- What?? -
marmot 1333,
2016-06-24, 00:00
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 18:32
- ^ This ^ -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 21:03
- So what you're saying is... -
ZackDark,
2016-06-23, 21:13
- So what you're saying is... -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 21:26
- So what you're saying is... -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 23:47
- So what you're saying is... -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-24, 04:30
- What the hell is a blueberry?
- kidtsunami, 2016-06-24, 10:51
- What the hell is a blueberry? - bluerunner, 2016-06-24, 11:59
- What the hell is a blueberry? -
Speedracer513,
2016-06-24, 12:09
- What the hell is a blueberry? -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-24, 17:55
- This is the correct answer.
- CyberKN, 2016-06-24, 18:01
- This is the correct answer.
- What the hell is a blueberry? -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-24, 17:55
- So what you're saying is... - Kahzgul, 2016-06-24, 14:51
- What the hell is a blueberry?
- So what you're saying is... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-24, 11:42
- So what you're saying is... -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-24, 04:30
- So what you're saying is... -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 23:47
- So what you're saying is... -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 21:26
- So what you're saying is... -
ZackDark,
2016-06-23, 21:13
- ^ This ^ - Cody Miller, 2016-06-23, 18:27
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 17:59
- ^ This ^ -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 18:29
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 18:35
- ^ This ^ -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-23, 18:36
- ^ This ^ - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-23, 18:49
- I used to do "this" a lot back when I didn't use Bad Juju - ZackDark, 2016-06-23, 19:33
- ^ This ^ -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-23, 18:36
- ^ This ^ - Xenos, 2016-06-23, 18:40
- Yep. Truth is great! *VID* -
breitzen,
2016-06-23, 19:00
- ^ This man gets it :D
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-23, 19:02
- ^ This man gets it :D
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 18:35
- ^ This ^ -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 17:52
- ^ This ^ -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 17:42
- ^ This ^ -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 15:51
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:41
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
dogcow,
2016-06-23, 15:34
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:32
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:10
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
Kermit,
2016-06-23, 14:09
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-23, 15:32
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
Kermit,
2016-06-23, 15:55
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 15:56
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
Kermit,
2016-06-23, 16:00
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 16:10
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. - Kermit, 2016-06-23, 16:17
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 16:10
- Pretty much. - ProbablyLast, 2016-06-23, 16:04
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
Kermit,
2016-06-23, 16:00
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 15:56
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-23, 15:55
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-06-23, 16:39
- Yeah, I can't play what I want because I'm underleveled
- kidtsunami, 2016-06-23, 20:28
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
Kermit,
2016-06-23, 15:55
- This is why I preferred Etheric Light. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-23, 15:32
- +1, infusion and exotic shards are at odds with each other -
slycrel,
2016-06-23, 13:23
- I quite like Infusion as-is, but I'd love a glamour system - someotherguy, 2016-06-23, 15:15
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
bluerunner,
2016-06-23, 13:11
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
petetheduck,
2016-06-23, 08:47
- The article barely touched on the most important bit -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:30
- What happened? -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-23, 16:48
- There was a whole GDC presentation -
CyberKN,
2016-06-23, 16:49
- There was a whole GDC presentation -
uberfoop,
2016-06-23, 16:55
- Sorry, updated the post with the video I was thinking of.
- CyberKN, 2016-06-23, 16:57
- Sorry, updated the post with the video I was thinking of.
- There was a whole GDC presentation - cheapLEY, 2016-06-23, 17:08
- There was a whole GDC presentation -
uberfoop,
2016-06-23, 16:55
- What happened? -
Xenos,
2016-06-23, 17:56
- What happened? - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:04
- What happened? -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 17:56
- What happened? -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-23, 18:21
- What happened? - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:31
- What happened? -
Pyromancy,
2016-06-23, 22:34
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-23, 23:44
- What happened? -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 23:51
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-24, 00:48
- What happened? -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-24, 14:55
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-24, 16:10
- What happened? - Kahzgul, 2016-06-24, 16:45
- What happened? - Spec ops Grunt, 2016-06-29, 19:16
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-24, 16:10
- What happened? -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-24, 14:55
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-24, 00:48
- What happened? -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 23:51
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-23, 23:44
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-23, 23:39
- What happened? -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 23:55
- I never thought about any of this. This is fascinating.
- ZackDark, 2016-06-24, 02:02
- Thanks. I can talk about it all day if you're interested - Kahzgul, 2016-06-24, 14:59
- What happened? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-24, 02:13
- What happened? - Kahzgul, 2016-06-24, 14:57
- I never thought about any of this. This is fascinating.
- What happened? -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 23:55
- What happened? -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-23, 18:21
- There was a whole GDC presentation -
CyberKN,
2016-06-23, 16:49
- What happened? -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-23, 16:48
- FTFY: [All Devs want] to build more content, faster. - INSANEdrive, 2016-06-23, 23:59
- Bungie wants to build more content, faster -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-23, 05:22