
Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? (Destiny)
With all the best will... I don't think it has. The year one version's perk only put ammo back when you missed. It was so unstable that you miss quite a bit, so that seems like an ok idea - but in practice it was really just taking longer to kill things than other machine guns (due to missing). The way to mitigate that, of course, is either get really close, or shoot at something too big to miss (a boss) so that all the shots hit. But even then, you were just landing all your hits with a gun with mediocre stats. And you'd run out of ammo at the normal rate, and have to reload. I wanted to like that gun, and I did think it was amusing to stand there and shoot at nothing with it, and watch the ammo count barely go down at all. But I never had any practical use for it. A slow-firing, stable, legendary machine gun always put things down faster.
The year 2 version is a different kettle of fish. Because it's restoring ammo from the reserves on hit, so you can just throw a wall of bullets at something without ever reloading. The stats on it still aren't great, but there are some situations where it can do more damage in X amount of time than others, simply because you don't have to stop and reload.
IMO, SGA is tied with Dragon's breath for most-improved exotic. Both of them went from being nearly useless to being top-tier (in the right situation), at least in PvE.
Complete thread:
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-24, 16:49
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
CyberKN,
2016-06-24, 16:52
- +1
- ZackDark, 2016-06-24, 16:56
- Yep -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-24, 17:02
- Im with Cody on this one - someotherguy, 2016-06-25, 07:33
- For real? -
Avateur,
2016-06-25, 20:15
- For real? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-25, 20:25
- For real? -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-25, 20:31
- For real? -
Korny,
2016-06-25, 21:06
- The Swarm here, can confirm -
ZackDark,
2016-06-25, 22:25
- Wait. The Swarm is back?! - someotherguy, 2016-06-25, 22:58
- For real? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-25, 22:37
- Yes, it was a big nerf. Still invalidates your argument.
- ZackDark, 2016-06-25, 23:36
- For real? -
Korny,
2016-06-29, 13:54
- For real? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-29, 14:01
- For real? -
Korny,
2016-06-29, 14:12
- For real? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-29, 15:30
- So both rockets and MGs are useless...?
- ZackDark, 2016-06-29, 15:32
- Yep. Swords are the best. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-29, 15:36
- I agree, but that wasn't what he was arguing for, initially - ZackDark, 2016-06-29, 16:51
- Yep. Swords are the best. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-29, 15:36
- So both rockets and MGs are useless...?
- For real? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-29, 15:30
- For real? -
Korny,
2016-06-29, 14:12
- For real? -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-29, 14:01
- Yes, it was a big nerf. Still invalidates your argument.
- The Swarm here, can confirm -
ZackDark,
2016-06-25, 22:25
- For real? -
Korny,
2016-06-25, 21:06
- For real? - Avateur, 2016-06-25, 23:30
- For real? -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-25, 20:31
- For real? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-25, 20:25
- The best reason to use HMGs over RLs is... - Mariachi, 2016-06-24, 17:14
- +1
- I actually... agree. -
BeardFade,
2016-06-24, 17:37
- I actually... agree. -
unoudid,
2016-06-24, 17:42
- Look at us being twinsies
- BeardFade, 2016-06-24, 18:25
- Look at us being twinsies
- I actually... agree. -
unoudid,
2016-06-24, 17:42
- That change made me switch to rockets -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-24, 18:33
- That change made me switch to rockets -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-24, 19:27
- That change made me switch to rockets -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-25, 16:57
- That change made me switch to rockets -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-27, 03:01
- That change made me switch to rockets - Kahzgul, 2016-06-29, 06:34
- That change made me switch to rockets -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-27, 03:01
- That change made me switch to rockets -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-25, 16:57
- That change made me switch to rockets -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-24, 19:27
- How many kills SHOULD you get with one ammo brick?? -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-25, 00:14
- How many kills SHOULD you get with one ammo brick?? - Xenos, 2016-06-25, 12:43
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
red robber,
2016-06-25, 01:25
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? - Cody Miller, 2016-06-25, 04:25
- Nope, they leave it to RNG.
- narcogen, 2016-06-25, 03:29
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-06-25, 12:34
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
RaichuKFM,
2016-06-25, 13:41
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-25, 13:45
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
stabbim,
2016-06-25, 14:21
- DB is only good now because there is no Gjallarhorn. - Funkmon, 2016-06-25, 14:46
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? - RaichuKFM, 2016-06-25, 14:49
- +1. Pre-buff SGA was good for only two things -
someotherguy,
2016-06-25, 23:01
- Also, Oversoul duty.
- Ragashingo, 2016-06-25, 23:59
- Also, Oversoul duty. -
someotherguy,
2016-06-27, 00:04
- Also, Oversoul duty. -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-27, 00:05
- Heh. That would explain so much.
- ZackDark, 2016-06-27, 00:43
- Heh. That would explain so much.
- Also, Oversoul duty. -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-27, 00:05
- Also, Oversoul duty. -
someotherguy,
2016-06-27, 00:04
- Also, Oversoul duty.
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
stabbim,
2016-06-25, 14:21
- Yeah. Your preferences were so bad they were overbuffed.
- Funkmon, 2016-06-25, 14:41
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-25, 13:45
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
RaichuKFM,
2016-06-25, 13:41
- I agree with Cody
- Spec ops Grunt, 2016-06-29, 15:47
- Is Bungie even thinking regarding crucible changes? -
CyberKN,
2016-06-24, 16:52