This IGN article comforted me somewhat (Destiny)
So where was that line of thinking for the PS exclusives until 2017? Those are just words. I think it's highly probable it will go pay to win or at least into the realm of scumminess at some point.
He directly mentions exclusives in the article, it's an agreement made with the publishers. I'm pretty sure I know though what happened with the PS exclusives by the way. The agreement most likely said that the exclusives would be that way until Destiny 2, but then, as we know, Destiny 2 got pushed back until next year. So when they originally stated until at least Fall 2016, that was based on the original timeline, but the agreement with Sony didn't have a date, but an event listed.And also "Those are just words" is one of the most useless things to say, what proof do you have they will go pay to win? Any evidence to actually give us, or just a pessimistic attitude?
His pessimistic attitude has more evidence to back it up than the reassuring statements coming from Bungie. It is a fact that Bungie/Activision have been slowly but steadily pushing the envelope further and further when it comes to microtransactions. It is very deliberate; they know a sudden lurch forward into full-blown "mobile gaming" monetization would spark outrage in the community, so they go a tiny little bit at a time. There are complaints, but a few months later we all just accept it as the "new normal", then they push a little further.
We are a very large way away from pay to win. It very much feels like a slippery slope argument.
Complete thread:
- Reputation Boosters for Silver -
someotherguy,
2016-09-14, 21:29
- I have an idea. -
CyberKN,
2016-09-14, 21:41
- I have an idea. -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-14, 21:58
- Uh... -
Beorn,
2016-09-14, 22:37
- Uh... -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-14, 22:39
- Uh... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-14, 22:55
- Shhhhh... You're destroying the narrative... - Korny, 2016-09-14, 22:40
- Uh... -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-14, 22:39
- Uh... -
Beorn,
2016-09-14, 22:37
- I have an idea. -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-14, 21:58
- Reputation Boosters for Silver -
Mad_Stylus,
2016-09-14, 21:47
- Sans RNG, maybe -
someotherguy,
2016-09-14, 21:55
- Sans RNG, maybe - Ragashingo, 2016-09-14, 22:02
- Reputation Boosters for Silver - Cody Miller, 2016-09-14, 22:03
- Reputation Boosters for Silver -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-14, 22:32
- Reputation Boosters for Silver - Cody Miller, 2016-09-14, 22:38
- Sans RNG, maybe -
someotherguy,
2016-09-14, 21:55
- Silver Dust? -
INSANEdrive,
2016-09-14, 23:06
- Silver Dust? - Xenos, 2016-09-14, 23:22
- Silver Dust? -
CyberKN,
2016-09-14, 23:23
- Silver Dust? - Cody Miller, 2016-09-14, 23:34
- I'm not sure I would consider this pay to win -
Avateur,
2016-09-14, 23:19
- I'm not sure I would consider this pay to win -
Harmanimus,
2016-09-15, 01:03
- +1 - unoudid, 2016-09-15, 01:13
- I'm not sure I would consider this pay to win -
Harmanimus,
2016-09-15, 01:03
- This isn't good. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-15, 09:54
- :( -
breitzen,
2016-09-15, 10:33
- :( - cheapLEY, 2016-09-15, 12:20
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 13:34
- +1 - Kermit, 2016-09-15, 13:47
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-15, 14:51
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 14:55
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:01
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:03
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:07
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:11
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:14
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:20
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:37
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-15, 17:01
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:37
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 15:22
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:30
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
breitzen,
2016-09-15, 15:34
- LOL - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-15, 15:34
- Inching closer to the line -
Robot Chickens,
2016-09-15, 15:47
- Inching closer to the line -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:53
- +1 - breitzen, 2016-09-15, 15:54
- Preach! ;) - slycrel, 2016-09-15, 16:07
- Inching closer to the line -
Robot Chickens,
2016-09-15, 16:07
- Inching closer to the line -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 16:13
- Inching closer to the line - Robot Chickens, 2016-09-15, 16:25
- Inching closer to the line -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 16:13
- Inching closer to the line -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:53
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 15:55
- Don't forget Halloween boxes -
someotherguy,
2016-09-15, 15:58
- Don't forget Halloween boxes - unoudid, 2016-09-15, 16:31
- Don't forget SRL Rec. Book and Sparrow/horn pkgs - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-15, 16:39
- Don't forget Halloween boxes - Kermit, 2016-09-19, 13:01
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 16:06
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 16:29
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 16:42
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 17:19
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-15, 17:46
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 17:19
- If it's the best gun in the game, you bet - someotherguy, 2016-09-15, 19:33
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 16:42
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 16:29
- Don't forget Halloween boxes -
someotherguy,
2016-09-15, 15:58
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-15, 16:41
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-15, 16:44
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
breitzen,
2016-09-15, 15:34
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat - Cody Miller, 2016-09-15, 17:05
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:30
- "Concern for the Future" isn't nearly as catchy a song title - Robot Chickens, 2016-09-15, 15:29
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:20
- If that's the case... -
breitzen,
2016-09-15, 15:19
- If that's the case... -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:23
- If that's the case... - Xenos, 2016-09-15, 15:26
- If that's the case... -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 15:35
- If that's the case... - breitzen, 2016-09-15, 15:39
- If that's the case... -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:23
- 10%? Try 90! -
someotherguy,
2016-09-15, 15:48
- 10%? Try 90! - Cody Miller, 2016-09-15, 17:07
- It literally doubles base rep gain in strike playlists. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-15, 17:56
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:14
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:11
- Who cares about pay to win? -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-15, 17:44
- Who cares about pay to win? -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 17:51
- Trap Card: Slippery Slope Fallacy Fallacy! -
someotherguy,
2016-09-15, 21:34
- NOOOO! I've been banished to the shadow realm! -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 21:34
- <3 - someotherguy, 2016-09-15, 21:37
- NOOOO! I've been banished to the shadow realm! -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 21:34
- Trap Card: Slippery Slope Fallacy Fallacy! -
someotherguy,
2016-09-15, 21:34
- Who cares about pay to win? -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 17:51
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:07
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 15:03
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-15, 16:48
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 15:01
- This IGN article comforted me somewhat -
Xenos,
2016-09-15, 14:55
- Hadn't seen that. - breitzen, 2016-09-15, 14:58
- Doesn't comfort me in the least. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-15, 14:58
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
breitzen,
2016-09-15, 15:06
- Yep. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-15, 15:07
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-15, 16:33
- Regarding Activision - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-15, 17:11
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
squidnh3,
2016-09-15, 20:19
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-15, 20:59
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 21:08
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-16, 00:58
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-16, 02:00
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-16, 12:51
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-16, 02:00
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-16, 00:58
- +1 - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-15, 22:12
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 21:08
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-15, 21:44
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-15, 20:59
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
Kermit,
2016-09-16, 14:01
- Very well said. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-16, 14:42
- Very well said. -
Kermit,
2016-09-16, 15:24
- Very well said. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 15:40
- Very well said. -
Kermit,
2016-09-16, 16:08
- Very well said. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 17:15
- Very well said. -
Avateur,
2016-09-16, 17:16
- Inclement Weather - Pyromancy, 2016-09-16, 17:37
- Very well said. -
Avateur,
2016-09-16, 17:16
- Very well said. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 17:15
- Very well said. -
Kermit,
2016-09-16, 16:08
- Very well said. -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-16, 15:43
- Very well said. -
Kermit,
2016-09-16, 15:56
- Very well said. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-16, 16:12
- Very well said. - Kermit, 2016-09-16, 16:33
- Very well said. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-16, 16:12
- Very well said. -
Kermit,
2016-09-16, 15:56
- Very well said. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 15:40
- Very well said. -
Kermit,
2016-09-16, 15:24
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-16, 15:07
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. - Kermit, 2016-09-16, 15:20
- You should stop, right now -
Pyromancy,
2016-09-16, 15:25
- ??? - Cody Miller, 2016-09-16, 15:38
- Very well said. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-16, 14:42
- Doesn't comfort me in the least. -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-15, 16:14
- Doesn't comfort me in the least. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-15, 16:16
- Doesn't comfort me in the least. - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-15, 16:42
- Doesn't comfort me in the least. -
Avateur,
2016-09-16, 00:32
- Doesn't comfort me in the least. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-16, 02:13
- Quote that perfectly sums it up. -
breitzen,
2016-09-15, 15:06
- #Avateurwasright -
Avateur,
2016-09-16, 00:07
- #Avateurwasright -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 12:53
- #Avateurwasright -
Avateur,
2016-09-16, 17:18
- #Avateurwasright -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 19:19
- #Avateurwasright - Avateur, 2016-09-16, 20:45
- #Avateurwasright -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 19:19
- #Avateurwasright -
Avateur,
2016-09-16, 17:18
- #Avateurwasright -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-16, 12:53
- I have an idea. -
CyberKN,
2016-09-14, 21:41