Destiny 2 reveal stream note thread.

Holy shit. Jason jones on video.
He is describing how he has been catfishing people and going on raids as a noob.

Lance Reddick interview now. Deej is playing inside the actors studio. Lance describes his role in destiny as "Shakespearean".

he is saying he plays daily…

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I was about to post, but then you posted. You monster. :P

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bungie

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVC0iN_mUW0

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More of the same but probably better in many ways.

Clans. Boo! Don't like Clans. Might be a necessary evil though.

I couldn't quite see the point of losing your light then getting it back. They didn't show lightless game play. Only guardians with special powers just like always. So you have no light for what, an hour, then back to the same old thing?

Glad to hear them admit 50% is not good enough for Raid participation. I've been saying for quite awhile that the barriers to Raids were excluding too many people.

Patrolling sounds more interesting.

I'll keep my pre-order, for now.

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I couldn't quite see the point of losing your light then getting it back. They didn't show lightless game play. Only guardians with special powers just like always. So you have no light for what, an hour, then back to the same old thing?

That's kind of what I was wondering. And shouldn't we be fighting off that initial invasion with our D1 powers? It would make sense to lose what we had and find that the powers have changed a bit when we are able to reclaim them, but I don't know why we'd be starting the story with these new abilities.

-Disciple

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what if its not the initial mission? Halo 3 announcement was about 1/3 of the way into the campaign.

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It could be that this build allows the new supers here just for the show. I don't expect the final version to be identical to what we saw.

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It could be that this build allows the new supers here just for the show. I don't expect the final version to be identical to what we saw.

probably. Ikora, Cayde and Zavala are all using old supers

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The story of no light seems like no story at all.

Will we remember the good old days without light?

Sounds busted. Kind of the same way at the beginning of D1, we go through a plethora of weapons and armour so fast we don't even remember what they were.

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The story of no light seems like no story at all.

Will we remember the good old days without light?

Sounds busted. Kind of the same way at the beginning of D1, we go through a plethora of weapons and armour so fast we don't even remember what they were.

I've long found this style of "progression" to be meaningless. Worse than that, I find it actually sucks fun out of the game. "Hey lets build a cool sandbox game and then make you play through the campaign without most of the sandbox at your disposal".

With a fully upgraded character and a sweet selection of top-tier weapons, Destiny's combat is up there with the very best in the industry. But playing as an un-leveled Guardian using crappy weapons is just dull, IMO.

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I've long found this style of "progression" to be meaningless. Worse than that, I find it actually sucks fun out of the game. "Hey lets build a cool sandbox game and then make you play through the campaign without most of the sandbox at your disposal".

With a fully upgraded character and a sweet selection of top-tier weapons, Destiny's combat is up there with the very best in the industry. But playing as an un-leveled Guardian using crappy weapons is just dull, IMO.

I deleted 2 of my 3 warlocks finally and created a hunter and titan, and gave them my year 1 weapons i still had in the vault. It's fun playing through the Vanilla campaign for the first time ever on a new character with Fatebringer, the supremacy, and BTRD. unfortunately, i didn't have any armor saved for titan/hunter, so i'm progressing through blues right now (other than the exotic class items that came with TTK).

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I couldn't quite see the point of losing your light then getting it back. They didn't show lightless game play. Only guardians with special powers just like always. So you have no light for what, an hour, then back to the same old thing?

I wouldn't read too much weight into that. It's just a way to rationalize why our characters all start with their skill trees not filled out. The REAL reason is that that's just how skill progression in RPGs works, but they come up with story-based reasons like this because otherwise it would be weird that our guardians just suddenly had no powers. No one's actually expecting a long skill-less slog at the beginning so that we "feel the harsh reality of war" or whatever. That would ruin Destiny anyway.

Also, they don't need to "show" lightless gameplay. They're "showing" some new abilities. If you want to see what it's like without those, just skip those parts of the video. ;)

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I'm 7 years old.

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Crucible rethought from first principles (Clarice).

More flexible fireteam size support.

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The door by the speaker is finally open. New Supers: TItans get to cosplay Captain america. Hunters cosplay Darth Maul. Warlocks are Uriel.

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Hunters cosplay Darth Maul.

How is the hunter one any different than bladedancer?

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Once again Hunters get the doinger on mass damage/distance supers.

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will the old supers still exist? The vanguard are using the old supers in the cinematic, so perhaps the old supers will still be available, and these new ones are in addition to that?

That would really create a greater variety in gameplay.

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Fist of Havoc is now a roaming super:

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didn't catch that earlier, thanks

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I have no reason to really think that, as it more cool idea then evidence based observation. Yet here I am. This is what I'm going on right now 'till corrected otherwise.

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I'm guessing the new abilities are the only abilities. We loose our light in the beginning (and our 3 existing sub classes) and we somehow gain these new abilities to replace them. Maybe we get to keep one of the originals, since Vanilla shipped with 2. So Striker, Voidwalker, Gunslinger?

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I'm guessing the new abilities are the only abilities. We loose our light in the beginning (and our 3 existing sub classes) and we somehow gain these new abilities to replace them. Maybe we get to keep one of the originals, since Vanilla shipped with 2. So Striker, Voidwalker, Gunslinger?

Well, and also there feels like we are dropping a super for a new one
Sunsinger -> Dawnblade
Bladedancer -> Arcstrider
Defender -> Sentinel

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I have to say that I will miss the bubble, but at least strikers will have an ability to totally screw me over when I try to fire rockets at a boss.

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Gaul believes he and the red legion should have been chosen to receive the Traveler's power, not humans. Not a psychopath looking to wipe out humanity. He's looking for self-gain.

We need to recover and re-unite the Vanguard. Also, give them pep talks.

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Kinetic, energy, and power weapon types replace primary, special and heavy.

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Campaign
Strikes
Crucible (4v4 across all game modes)
Raid
World Exploration ("adventures", "treasure maps", and "lost sectors" join patrols and live events)

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My need for organization and sub threads is failing. My cultural references are right on point.
http://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?mode=entry&id=131805

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Praise the sun!

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Praise the sun!

did they remove self-rez?

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Praise the sun!

did they remove self-rez?

Sounds like they will have to remove rezing period. After all, we lose our light and powers. If we CAN resurrect… well then it's Des2ny.isnotcanon.net time…

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...the game uninstalls C:. ;P Thanks Bungie. Again.

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...the game uninstalls C:. ;P Thanks Bungie. Again.

I wonder if they have the rights to the old Myth code, or if they had to rewrite that function :)

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...the game uninstalls C:. ;P Thanks Bungie. Again.

So the 2 is for Myth 2?

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Praise the sun!

did they remove self-rez?

Sounds like they will have to remove rezing period. After all, we lose our light and powers. If we CAN resurrect… well then it's Des2ny.isnotcanon.net time…

maybe since the ghosts are actually made from the traveler, they have enough light in them to rez.

it's obvious from the footage that we get our powers back at some point.

GOTG vol 2 Sp

perhaps we just have to learn to use our hearts

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Praise the sun!

did they remove self-rez?

Sounds like they will have to remove rezing period. After all, we lose our light and powers. If we CAN resurrect… well then it's Des2ny.isnotcanon.net time…

maybe since the ghosts are actually made from the traveler, they have enough light in them to rez.

it's obvious from the footage that we get our powers back at some point.

GOTG vol 2 Sp

perhaps we just have to learn to use our hearts

So you're saying "the light was inside us all along"? lol

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All modes 4v4

Countdown - defend mode

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Yeah, really not liking that part at all.

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Basing my expectations on what we know of D1, I think the move to 4v4 is a great idea. 6v6 Crucible has always felt like a total clusterfuck to me. The maps are just too small, guardians are too powerful, power weapons and supers everywhere. It's a mess.

Trials of Osiris helped solidify my belief that 3v3 is where Destiny PvP shines. If the maps in Des2ny are similar in size to those in D1, I'm 100% fine with ditching the larger team sizes.

Now, if they were to introduce maps and game modes that were actually FUN with larger team sizes, that would be awesome. But sometimes less really is more :)

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Basing my expectations on what we know of D1, I think the move to 4v4 is a great idea. 6v6 Crucible has always felt like a total clusterfuck to me. The maps are just too small, guardians are too powerful, power weapons and supers everywhere. It's a mess.

I always suspected that you hated fun. Is it really too much to ask for an attempt at recreating the "ride the wave of chaos" gameplay that was Y1 Crucible?

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Basing my expectations on what we know of D1, I think the move to 4v4 is a great idea. 6v6 Crucible has always felt like a total clusterfuck to me. The maps are just too small, guardians are too powerful, power weapons and supers everywhere. It's a mess.

I always suspected that you hated fun.

I just don't think getting repeatedly 1-hit-killed by enemy supers and sniper rifles to be "fun" ;p

Is it really too much to ask for an attempt at recreating the "ride the wave of chaos" gameplay that was Y1 Crucible?

Nothing more than a personal opinion here, but I don't think Destiny's year 1 PvP had much that is worth recreating. It was a fairly mediocre PvP shooter compared to other modern FPS games, IMO.

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Year 1 Crucible was the peak, imo.

But 3v3 (non-sweaty, with res) was still where I had the most fun, though I feel like teams of three limits your strategic options a little more than I'd like. 4 will always be the magic number for me.

Wouldn't say no to an additional 6v6 (or 8v8!!!) mode on larger maps too. Always made me sad that Bungie's solution to First Light, Bastion et al was to just kill them unceremoniously, rather than have larger game modes.

Also hi guys. Im still alive.

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Year 1 Crucible was the peak, imo.

But 3v3 (non-sweaty, with res) was still where I had the most fun, though I feel like teams of three limits your strategic options a little more than I'd like. 4 will always be the magic number for me.

Wouldn't say no to an additional 6v6 (or 8v8!!!) mode on larger maps too. Always made me sad that Bungie's solution to First Light, Bastion et al was to just kill them unceremoniously, rather than have larger game modes.

Also hi guys. Im still alive.

Those rare games where matchmaking lines you up with 4v4 or 5v5 are pretty good. I feel like this will be a good decision, but I'm still sad about some of it. I really enjoy playing with 5 other DBO peeps during Iron Banner. It's just fun. Sure 4 will be good too, but it become less of a party & more intimate. I'll miss the "party" atmosphere. (plus when I play Halo 3 w/ my old roommates we usually end up w/ 12 people thus 6v6 has good associations in my mind)

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I just don't think getting repeatedly 1-hit-killed by enemy supers and sniper rifles to be "fun" ;p

I think a lot of people dwell way too much on the frustrating end of this, and don't remember how much fun it is when you get to pull off something crazy. A lot of competitive players focus way too much on 1v1 battles, and not enough on the overall flow of the game. Sure, you killed me with a super and there was nothing I could have done about it, but I'll get you and 3 of your teammates when mine comes up. Everyone has opportunities for big plays, and whoever makes the most of theirs over the course of the game usually comes out on top. I find that way more exciting than the clinical style of play that things seem to be shifting towards.

Nothing more than a personal opinion here, but I don't think Destiny's year 1 PvP had much that is worth recreating. It was a fairly mediocre PvP shooter compared to other modern FPS games, IMO.

Man, you crazy.

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I just don't think getting repeatedly 1-hit-killed by enemy supers and sniper rifles to be "fun" ;p

I think a lot of people dwell way too much on the frustrating end of this, and don't remember how much fun it is when you get to pull off something crazy. A lot of competitive players focus way too much on 1v1 battles, and not enough on the overall flow of the game. Sure, you killed me with a super and there was nothing I could have done about it, but I'll get you and 3 of your teammates when mine comes up. Everyone has opportunities for big plays, and whoever makes the most of theirs over the course of the game usually comes out on top. I find that way more exciting than the clinical style of play that things seem to be shifting towards.

I do get that, and even I would admit that it is a rush when you nail 4 enemies with a fist of havoc. But the sheer numbers at play all but guarantee that those moments will happen against you far more often than in your favor.

But there's a bigger issue. The rush from a cool super multikill is great, but do you know what's waaaay better? The rush from getting a huge killstreak through superior play. And all too often in Destiny, those moments are cut short because I get hit by an enemy's super. It's the Mario Kart school of design. A form of "rubber banding" within an FPS. And I'm not totally against that idea... but it's just taken to such an extreme in Destiny. Titanfall 2 does an amazing job of giving players opportunities to turn the tides or find moments of success against a superior enemy. But they are never the show-stopping, inescapable "win" buttons of Destiny's supers.

Nothing more than a personal opinion here, but I don't think Destiny's year 1 PvP had much that is worth recreating. It was a fairly mediocre PvP shooter compared to other modern FPS games, IMO.

Man, you crazy.

Maybe ;) But I also play a lot of Titanfall. That game gets so much right, it's tough for anything else to compete :)

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My group/clan/whatever has already been annoyed by the fact that we've been separated into mini groups unless raiding or in Crucible. Now we're cut down further? Horrible choice.

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Earth
TItan
Io
Nessus

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Earth
TItan
Io
Nessus

Where's my Europa? I've hoped for it for ages.

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Earth
TItan
Io
Nessus

Where's my Europa? I've hoped for it for ages.

Don't the Nine or Ahamkara or something live there? They can't break those guys out just yet.

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Hey, Io is literally next door to Europa in orbit - so we're getting really close!

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Exactly.

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"All these worlds are yours now. Except Europa. Attempt no landing there."

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Official clan support.

In-game rosters.

Fireteam builder tools

custom banners

Reward system that counts across the clan. Gives rewards.

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Temporary clan allegiances for an activity. Helps fill fire teams.

Solo players get to read guild info and choose who to throw in with.

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https://oddshot.tv/s/-3MgHR

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Does it still count if he's on the screen instead of in the audience?

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https://youtu.be/vVC0iN_mUW0?t=3h24m

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I see it.

Also, beards!

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Solo players can select clans to play end game content with.

Seems like a good solution instead of raid matchmaking.

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I'm curious about the level of control - if a clan is looking for 1 more person but wants someone with experience, do they have the ability to limit what types of solo players can join? It's called "Guided", but I don't want to sherpa every raid - sometimes I just want to get it done without any wipes or explanations.

I assume that the fire team lead will still be able to punt them if you discover that they only play while blaring a Barry Manilow dub step remix at max volume.

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It sounded like they choose who to bring in. So, unless people are lying about experience that should get worked out before they were brought in.

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It sounded like they choose who to bring in. So, unless people are lying about experience that should get worked out before they were brought in.

I would think that you could just inspect the player and see if they had completed it before you invited them. See if they had raid equipment/emblems/shaders.

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It sounded like they choose who to bring in. So, unless people are lying about experience that should get worked out before they were brought in.

I would think that you could just inspect the player and see if they had completed it before you invited them. See if they had raid equipment/emblems/shaders.

If they're going to let you boot people that Guided Games brings in because they haven't completed the activity, then this won't help them increase the percentage of players who experience endgame content.

I wonder how this is going to work unless there's a way to select a preferred role in addition to just a clan. Even if Bungie makes a dedicated "raid noob" clan for people looking to participate in a raid who don't have their own fireteams, unless people who CAN play the content opt in to playing with the raid noob clan, either by joining it or specifying "I volunteer for sherpa" in some manner, it's hard to see how this works.

I wonder if all clans will now work the way factions did (I note there does not seem to be any mention of the old factions) and if so how that meshes with player-created clans.

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Solo players can select clans to play end game content with.

Seems like a good solution instead of raid matchmaking.

I think it *is* raid matchmaking.

I don't remember hearing the term "LFG" from them but I'm guessing that's what it actually does. You pick a "clan" that meshes with your desires and play style, and Guided Games plugs in people with matching preferences from your "clan" to fill out your fireteam.

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Well, it is and it isn't. I would think of full-on raid matchmaking as being able to pull entirely random groups together, meaning you could end up in a group of 6 who all didn't know each other. And while the specifics are fuzzy to me regarding exactly how many randos can be brought in by Guided Games, I get the feeling that it's less than 5.

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was hoping for xbox anywhere, guess that won't be happening

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Not that that's a bad thing. It's all in the details.

Can't wait for the beta.

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Exactly what I was thinking. UI stayed the same. The hud looks the same. They've just updated and added abilities. I think I'll like how they changed the weapon slots from primary,secondary, and heavy to Kinetic, energy, and power weapons.

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I think I'll like how they changed the weapon slots from primary,secondary, and heavy to Kinetic, energy, and power weapons.

I've always wanted to run a scout/handcannon combo. Sidearms just aren't the same.

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No mention of eververse though.

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No mention of eververse though.

You must be so disappointed. /s

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Gotta make tough calls for power weapons now

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Fusion rifles are now power weapons. Gotta start them at high damage with all the nerfs they'll go through.

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Gotta make tough calls for power weapons now

I sort of missed that... did he say there are now 2 "kinetic" slots and 1 "power" slot?

Meaning we now have 2 "primary" slots, while special and power have been merged?

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1 kinetic, 1 elemental "primary" and the new heavy

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1 kinetic, 1 elemental "primary" and the new heavy

Hmmm... seems like a change made primarily with PvP in mind. Excited to see how it plays.

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So in other words, "primary" no longer means HC/SR/AR/PR. It means no elemental damage, ever, no matter what the actual weapon type is.

All elemental weapons, regardless of type, will now be subject to special ammo restrictions.

I can imagine good and bad things about this.

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So in other words, "primary" no longer means HC/SR/AR/PR. It means no elemental damage, ever, no matter what the actual weapon type is.

All elemental weapons, regardless of type, will now be subject to special ammo restrictions.

I can imagine good and bad things about this.

From watching gameplay videos I don't think this is true. People have never run even run out of elemental ammo, I'm pretty sure ammo for kinetic and elemental weapons is plentiful and the only rare ammo at all anymore is Power ammo.

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So in other words, "primary" no longer means HC/SR/AR/PR. It means no elemental damage, ever, no matter what the actual weapon type is.

All elemental weapons, regardless of type, will now be subject to special ammo restrictions.

I can imagine good and bad things about this.

From watching gameplay videos I don't think this is true. People have never run even run out of elemental ammo, I'm pretty sure ammo for kinetic and elemental weapons is plentiful and the only rare ammo at all anymore is Power ammo.

In D1, primary ammo is basically infinite. Even if you use it all up, you only have to wait.

Special ammo has to come from a synth or be picked up, generally speaking.

Heavy ammo, if memory serves, MUST be picked up.

If "kinetic" means no elemental damage ever, which is what it means in D1, and if the "kinetic" and "energy" slots work in D2 the way the primary and secondary slots work now, it means the end of potentially infinite ammo elemental weapons.

Secondary ammo might be plentiful, but it still would mean that all elemental damage is subject to some sort of restriction, even if is not much of a restriction.

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If "kinetic" means no elemental damage ever, which is what it means in D1, and if the "kinetic" and "energy" slots work in D2 the way the primary and secondary slots work now, it means the end of potentially infinite ammo elemental weapons.

Right, this is the sticking point, I don't see any evidence that the kinetic and energy slots work in D2 the way the primary and secondary slots do in Destiny 1, like I said, I've watched more than an hour of gameplay videos and I've never seen a single player ever get close to running out of ammo on kinetic or elemental weapons. I think the two slots are not meant to be incredibly different on power or ammo rareness, I think they are just supposed to serve different purposes in your loadout (hence the talk about more options with this setup). I could be wrong of course, but in the build they are showing right now ammo is plentiful for everything except the power weapon slot.

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Right, this is the sticking point, I don't see any evidence that the kinetic and energy slots work in D2 the way the primary and secondary slots do in Destiny 1, like I said, I've watched more than an hour of gameplay videos and I've never seen a single player ever get close to running out of ammo on kinetic or elemental weapons. I think the two slots are not meant to be incredibly different on power or ammo rareness, I think they are just supposed to serve different purposes in your loadout (hence the talk about more options with this setup). I could be wrong of course, but in the build they are showing right now ammo is plentiful for everything except the power weapon slot.

This would make sense, since according to someone on the stream, you can use the "same weapons" in both slots. So one of the slots isn't necessarily more powerful than the other (other than burn scenarios).

My guess: All the weapons we currently think of as "primaries" (auto rifles, hand cannons, scouts, etc.) will HAVE an elemental damage type. But only if they're placed in the "elemental" slot in your loadout. If you place them in the kinetic slot, they're just kinetic. So I might have a pulse rifle that's solar. If I put that pulse rifle in my elemental slot, it does solar damage. If I put it in the kinetic slot, it's just kinetic.

What Bungie gains from this is the ability for players to HAVE an elemental damage type on a primary, which they know we like for nightfall burns and such. BUT, because we have to pick only one of our "primaries" to do so, we can still only ever have 2 elemental weapons in total (the "elemental" slot, plus the "heavy" slot, which still has an element icon on it). So Bungie no longer has to worry about the potentially unbalanced situation where a player has 3 weapons ALL doing extra burn damage on a nightfall. Which I think was why they started shying away from elemental primaries in D1.

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Right, this is the sticking point, I don't see any evidence that the kinetic and energy slots work in D2 the way the primary and secondary slots do in Destiny 1, like I said, I've watched more than an hour of gameplay videos and I've never seen a single player ever get close to running out of ammo on kinetic or elemental weapons. I think the two slots are not meant to be incredibly different on power or ammo rareness, I think they are just supposed to serve different purposes in your loadout (hence the talk about more options with this setup). I could be wrong of course, but in the build they are showing right now ammo is plentiful for everything except the power weapon slot.

This would make sense, since according to someone on the stream, you can use the "same weapons" in both slots. So one of the slots isn't necessarily more powerful than the other (other than burn scenarios).

My guess: All the weapons we currently think of as "primaries" (auto rifles, hand cannons, scouts, etc.) will HAVE an elemental damage type. But only if they're placed in the "elemental" slot in your loadout. If you place them in the kinetic slot, they're just kinetic. So I might have a pulse rifle that's solar. If I put that pulse rifle in my elemental slot, it does solar damage. If I put it in the kinetic slot, it's just kinetic.

I would love for this to be true... but I highly doubt that it is what is going to happen.
One of the reason I don't think it's true, is because when you look at the actual kinetic vs elemental weapons, they actually look like what they are. Especially the handcannons.

What Bungie gains from this is the ability for players to HAVE an elemental damage type on a primary, which they know we like for nightfall burns and such. BUT, because we have to pick only one of our "primaries" to do so, we can still only ever have 2 elemental weapons in total (the "elemental" slot, plus the "heavy" slot, which still has an element icon on it). So Bungie no longer has to worry about the potentially unbalanced situation where a player has 3 weapons ALL doing extra burn damage on a nightfall. Which I think was why they started shying away from elemental primaries in D1.

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I think the two slots are not meant to be incredibly different on power or ammo rareness, I think they are just supposed to serve different purposes in your loadout (hence the talk about more options with this setup).

It sounds like you basically have two primary slots, with one capable of elemental damage.

But like, imagine in the crucible having a hand canon and a scout rifle in those slots… aren't you basically covered at any range? This seems like you could basically mitigate any dead zones with certain loadouts.

Why would you have two of the same weapon?

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I think the two slots are not meant to be incredibly different on power or ammo rareness, I think they are just supposed to serve different purposes in your loadout (hence the talk about more options with this setup).

It sounds like you basically have two primary slots, with one capable of elemental damage.

But like, imagine in the crucible having a hand canon and a scout rifle in those slots… aren't you basically covered at any range? This seems like you could basically mitigate any dead zones with certain loadouts.

Why would you have two of the same weapon?

I don't think you would. I even think that's why they introduced the SMG, a close quarters weapon that melts at close range without being an instant kill like a shotgun. With having two primary slots you cover your bases with those and your power weapon is for special scenarios or high DPS.

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I think the two slots are not meant to be incredibly different on power or ammo rareness, I think they are just supposed to serve different purposes in your loadout (hence the talk about more options with this setup).

It sounds like you basically have two primary slots, with one capable of elemental damage.

But like, imagine in the crucible having a hand canon and a scout rifle in those slots… aren't you basically covered at any range? This seems like you could basically mitigate any dead zones with certain loadouts.

Why would you have two of the same weapon?

I don't think you would. I even think that's why they introduced the SMG, a close quarters weapon that melts at close range without being an instant kill like a shotgun. With having two primary slots you cover your bases with those and your power weapon is for special scenarios or high DPS.

how does heavy (special,whatever) ammo work in crucible now? if it's similar to how it is now, i can't see why anyone would want to use a shotgun when there will be people with rockets.

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I don't think you would. I even think that's why they introduced the SMG, a close quarters weapon that melts at close range without being an instant kill like a shotgun. With having two primary slots you cover your bases with those and your power weapon is for special scenarios or high DPS.

how does heavy (special,whatever) ammo work in crucible now? if it's similar to how it is now, i can't see why anyone would want to use a shotgun when there will be people with rockets.

Pure speculation, but I would imagine it comes down to how much ammo they each come with. Like a rocket launcher might come with 2 rockets, but a shotgun might have 8 shells. Plus, since it doesn't drop for a whole team, just for the person that opens it, there's no guarantee you're even going to go up against anyone with power ammo.

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how does heavy (special,whatever) ammo work in crucible now? if it's similar to how it is now, i can't see why anyone would want to use a shotgun when there will be people with rockets.

Only the person that pops the box gets the ammo now. I haven't watched enough to see the ammo ammounts, but I could see them limiting how much each heavy got individually. Two rockets versus five shotgun shells. Trade off two easy kills for more potential kills with the shotgun.

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From what I have seen, I think it was 1 Rocket and 6 Shotgun shells.

Albeit, there is probably an ammo stat that influences that. And I may be misremembering.

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From what I have seen, I think it was 1 Rocket and 6 Shotgun shells.

Albeit, there is probably an ammo stat that influences that. And I may be misremembering.

From another video I saw today, this was accurate.

Also, it seems like the blast-radius of rockets has been significantly toned down.

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Why would you have two of the same weapon?

My hunter will be rocking two hand cannons, Josey Wales style.
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Kinetic, energy, and power weapon types replace primary, special and heavy

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Gotta make tough calls for power weapons now

I sort of missed that... did he say there are now 2 "kinetic" slots and 1 "power" slot?

Meaning we now have 2 "primary" slots, while special and power have been merged?

It's Kinetic, Energy, and Power. Energy looks like it's just an elemental primary slot, though.

-Disciple

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The Power slot effects shields and does extra damage to guardians with their super charged.

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Glad they kind of listened to me: 110912

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Glad they kind of listened to me: 110912

It addresses my concerns with your suggestion: 110920

I think this would seriously diminish any desire to use short-range primaries. Why would I choose a Hand Cannon or Auto Rifle when everyone, including me, has a side arm?

Have 2 primaries instead! :D

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I could have a Hand Cannon in TWO slots??

I'm sold. (:

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I could have a Hand Cannon in TWO slots??

I'm sold. (:

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One of he clips during the presentation showed exactly that. They fired a Hc and then swapped to a HC. Don't remember which one it was in, though.

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Ah! Thanks! I thought I saw that, but I couldn't tell if one was a sidearm.

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Halo 2 at E3 was jaw dropping inspiring, with music that I can remember note for note even today.

This was a good show, but can you hum any of the music during this presentation. No? That's what you get when Marty leaves.

This was a sales pitch and felt like it. Bungie's old trailers were too, but felt like art.

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Halo 2 at E3 was jaw dropping inspiring, with music that I can remember note for note even today.

This was a good show, but can you hum any of the music during this presentation. No? That's what you get when Marty leaves.

This was a sales pitch and felt like it. Bungie's old trailers were too, but felt like art.

Granted. Yet I can't help but feel I've seen home destroyed before.

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Halo 2 at E3 was jaw dropping inspiring, with music that I can remember note for note even today.

This was a good show, but can you hum any of the music during this presentation. No? That's what you get when Marty leaves.

are you claiming that you could hum the Halo 2 E3 demo music note for note after watching it 1 time? You can hum it note for note, b/c you've watched it dozens or hundreds of times.

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Don't waste your time trying to use logic. He's always blinded by nostalgia.

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It was essentially a sales pitch.

Halo 2's E3 appearance already had a massive amount of people on the bandwagon, with little to no doubt that the sequel would be great.

Destiny 2's stream today has a great following, but there's a good amount of doubt on if Destiny 2 can deliver in the areas needed most like with the Story.

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Halo 2 at E3 was jaw dropping inspiring, with music that I can remember note for note even today.

This was a good show, but can you hum any of the music during this presentation. No? That's what you get when Marty leaves.

are you claiming that you could hum the Halo 2 E3 demo music note for note after watching it 1 time?

Yes. And even if I watched this reveal 50 times I still would not have a melody stuck in my head.

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Halo 2 at E3 was jaw dropping inspiring, with music that I can remember note for note even today.

This was a good show, but can you hum any of the music during this presentation. No? That's what you get when Marty leaves.

are you claiming that you could hum the Halo 2 E3 demo music note for note after watching it 1 time? You can hum it note for note, b/c you've watched it dozens or hundreds of times.

I'll claim it for him. H2E32k3 changed. My. Life. Before Halo 2 was announced, I had no idea what E3 even was, nor did I care. I was completely foreign to the idea of feeling excitement for a video game before it was released. I knew what Hyper was(I am ADHD after all) but I had never learned of hype. All of that changed in the summer.

I had a Dial-Up connection back then. It took Seven. Teen. Hours.

It was worth every agonizing second. I had never been so enraptured by a video game since playing Sonic Adventure. The shock that went through my eyes when MC picked up two weapons at once--the absolute qirlish squeal I let out when he jumped on a Ghost and kicked a Brute right off the damn seat, and the rush of seeing(and hearing!) all those swords activating at once! I can still remember screaming and weeping with thrilled joy, because even to this day, I have to hold myself back now.

I definitely could(and did) hum or sing the songs of H2E32k3 after one viewing. After dozens or hundreds, at this point I'm willing to bet I can play them! And I haven't touched an instrument in years!

H2E32k3 might've been a bad example, but there are some beautiful things that just stick with you forever.

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It sounded super similar to me. Not much of the gameplay reminded me of Halo 2, but that specific sound really, really did.

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Cross platform saves?

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That would make me really happy.

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No.

Probably.

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Cross platform saves?

i don't know if i want Xbox or PC. was really hoping there would be a deal with microsoft allowing cross-saves

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I suppose most of that will come at E3.

Except the things they don't want you to complain about.

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Launch date is Sept 8.

That means going gold by around July 8, with the beta either just before or just after that.

That is *less than two months from now*.

If they don't have specs nailed down by now...

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Launch date is Sept 8.

That means going gold by around July 8, with the beta either just before or just after that.

That is *less than two months from now*.

If they don't have specs nailed down by now...

It is very possible they have a good idea already what it will be, and what it is that they are aiming for hardware wise. Moving parts makes things risky to declare, and when games are made there is always some variable moving. Only when things slow down, and the leads lock down the revision control system to lead permissions, will it be safer to say anything in public.

As far as I know.

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Cross platform saves?

Every other crazy one (shield-wielding Titans! Battlenet!) all turned out to be true. The only one that wasn't addressed was the PS4/PC cross-saves (supposedly Microsoft wouldn't support it, and I'm guessing Battlenet might be a big reason for it).

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Within just the first cutscene with Zvala, we got cool insights into the constant deaths of being a Guardian and the rise of the Last City. Worldbuilding!

In the first mission we got exciting cinematics that propel you into the foray like a great Halo cutscene would do. The environment was alive and dynamic and told its own story with just the design (like seeing the enemy droppods land early on, then seeing them getting launched from the flagship later).

The art direction looked great as usual. I loved the Traveller-grappler ship. All the locales look like great places to explore.

The growth of Patrols, with characters to meet and Lost Sectors to find is right up my alley!

Dividing the story between the Vanguards and tying a planet to each sounds like a great way to keep each section of the campaign focused.

And most exciting of all: A TANK!

I call it. It's mine. Get away from it!

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It's been far to on since you posted a drawing. Just say'n.

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It's just that my thoughts are all wrapped up in my own projects at the moment. :)

I would love to draw more Destiny (I've had a Destiny Dreams idea where I illustrate a design document for one of the unexplored planets as a fun concepting exercise) but I just dont have the time like I used to!

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Everything shown looked awesome!!

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He mentioned it sounds like a bunch of people in sheets on horseback going to ruin some family's day.

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Will a brand new guardian have a different intro mission that takes them to the tower right before it falls?

Lore-wise, a brand new, just-rez'd-for-the-first-time-guardian, would have no attachment to the events occurring before their eyes, and would not understand the severity of the light being taken away.

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Where's the beef?

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Unite the clans?

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Otherwise it'll be Xbox for the foreseeable future.

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To give you a rough idea of performance, the rig that Bungie was running during the gameplay reveal livestream was an i7-7700K 4.2GHz with 16GB of RAM and a GTX 1080Ti graphics card.

http://www.glixel.com/news/bungie-embraces-pc-with-destiny-2-w483017

I recently bought a $1500 PC, and it's significantly less powerful than this.

I generally find PC games run way too inconsistent for my tastes. I'd rather have a game run at a rock-solid 30fps then constantly shift between 40-60.

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To give you a rough idea of performance, the rig that Bungie was running during the gameplay reveal livestream was an i7-7700K 4.2GHz with 16GB of RAM and a GTX 1080Ti graphics card.

http://www.glixel.com/news/bungie-embraces-pc-with-destiny-2-w483017

I recently bought a $1500 PC, and it's significantly less powerful than this.

I generally find PC games run way too inconsistent for my tastes. I'd rather have a game run at a rock-solid 30fps then constantly shift between 40-60.

Ah I don't give a shit about frame rates or that junk. I just want to play with all the HBO Reach crew again. I admit it.

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To give you a rough idea of performance, the rig that Bungie was running during the gameplay reveal livestream was an i7-7700K 4.2GHz with 16GB of RAM and a GTX 1080Ti graphics card.

http://www.glixel.com/news/bungie-embraces-pc-with-destiny-2-w483017

I recently bought a $1500 PC, and it's significantly less powerful than this.

I generally find PC games run way too inconsistent for my tastes. I'd rather have a game run at a rock-solid 30fps then constantly shift between 40-60.

Then run on high instead of ultra and you will be fine. There's virtually no difference these days. Even medium looks very very similar to high.

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To give you a rough idea of performance, the rig that Bungie was running during the gameplay reveal livestream was an i7-7700K 4.2GHz with 16GB of RAM and a GTX 1080Ti graphics card.

http://www.glixel.com/news/bungie-embraces-pc-with-destiny-2-w483017

I recently bought a $1500 PC, and it's significantly less powerful than this.

I generally find PC games run way too inconsistent for my tastes. I'd rather have a game run at a rock-solid 30fps then constantly shift between 40-60.

you don't have to play everything on Ultra settings. My laptop has an i7 and GTX 960 with 16 GB RAM, and it runs Forza Horizons and Gears of War 4 just fine. I just use the "recommended" settings for my setup, and it looks better than the XBONE.

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Destiny 2 PC

4k Resolution Support (3820x2160)

Uncapped framerate

Full mouse and keyboard support with custom key mapping

Text chat

Adjustable Field of View

Detailed PC settings screen

21:9 monitor support

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/6by3fg/bungie_embraces_pc_with_destiny_2_4k_resolution/

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They did say summer. 7/7 is only a few weeks in.

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They did say summer. 7/7 is only a few weeks in.

I just realized that my brain went 7 = August. Woops.

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They did say summer. 7/7 is only a few weeks in.

I just realized that my brain went 7 = August. Woops.

I expect August... I need August if I'm going to complete my Age of Triumph! :)

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They did say summer. 7/7 is only a few weeks in.

I just realized that my brain went 7 = August. Woops.

I expect August... I need August if I'm going to complete my Age of Triumph! :)

Actually it would sort of make sense if the beta started shortly after the AoT deadline, so that there'd be no reason for people who could be playing the beta (and thus have preordered D2) to prefer to stick with D1 any longer.

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...gave me more buy-in to protecting the city than anything in Destiny 1. There were some pretty good moments in the DLC, but I never felt connected to the world. Seeing just the tiniest bit of his backstory gave me a reason to join the fight- something I felt like I needed to conjure on my own previously.

D1, while beautiful, was fairly lifeless and I'm also really glad to see NPCs we can fight alongside now. I think that will give more life to the storytelling than the radio chatter did. It sounded like we would encounter NCPs on patrol as well. I cannot tell you how much I think that will change the feeling of that mode.

I'm hoping that D2 has more hooks like this. Overall I'm pretty optimistic now.Good show Bungie.

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My Guardians and I miss you! We've not had much time to play, so maybe our clans are just missing one another. Let's game again soon!

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My Guardians and I miss you! We've not had much time to play, so maybe our clans are just missing one another. Let's game again soon!

We've missed you too. Honestly, Heather and I haven't logged into Destiny much lately but I'm totally happy to join in when summoned. I'd love to play again and Rellekh needs to start filling out her book...

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...gave me more buy-in to protecting the city than anything in Destiny 1. There were some pretty good moments in the DLC, but I never felt connected to the world. Seeing just the tiniest bit of his backstory gave me a reason to join the fight- something I felt like I needed to conjure on my own previously.

D1, while beautiful, was fairly lifeless and I'm also really glad to see NPCs we can fight alongside now. I think that will give more life to the storytelling than the radio chatter did. It sounded like we would encounter NCPs on patrol as well. I cannot tell you how much I think that will change the feeling of that mode.

I'm hoping that D2 has more hooks like this. Overall I'm pretty optimistic now.Good show Bungie.

You are completely right. There's more characterization and drama in that FMV than in all of D1's original launch, imo.

It also made him feel somewhat tragic. Seeing the revives like that was waaaay more powerful than the "all's well" type of revive in the actual game.

By the way, I laughed at how they kept bragging that D2 had more cinematics than any previous "destiny" release. So that's... 5? I mean, way to set a low bar, guys. What they did show us looked friggin awesome though.

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...gave me more buy-in to protecting the city than anything in Destiny 1. There were some pretty good moments in the DLC, but I never felt connected to the world. Seeing just the tiniest bit of his backstory gave me a reason to join the fight- something I felt like I needed to conjure on my own previously.

D1, while beautiful, was fairly lifeless and I'm also really glad to see NPCs we can fight alongside now. I think that will give more life to the storytelling than the radio chatter did. It sounded like we would encounter NCPs on patrol as well. I cannot tell you how much I think that will change the feeling of that mode.

I'm hoping that D2 has more hooks like this. Overall I'm pretty optimistic now.Good show Bungie.

You are completely right. There's more characterization and drama in that FMV than in all of D1's original launch, imo.

It also made him feel somewhat tragic. Seeing the revives like that was waaaay more powerful than the "all's well" type of revive in the actual game.

Heh. I thought it was tragic each and every time one of my Guardians fell. :p

By the way, I laughed at how they kept bragging that D2 had more cinematics than any previous "destiny" release. So that's... 5? I mean, way to set a low bar, guys. What they did show us looked friggin awesome though.

Yep. Had that same thought.

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I just watched the intro cutscene and the gameplay trailer for a 2nd time, and I literally cringed every single time Cayde said anything. Which is strange, because I've replayed a bunch of the TTK story missions and strikes in recent weeks, and he didn't bother me at all there. But with D2's marketing, they're clearly leaning on Cayde as "Mr comic relief", and I find it so lame that I get pulled out of what I'm watching every time I see him. This is just my own personal annoyance to get over, but it made me think about the characters of Destiny in a greater sense. And I think, for me, the fact that we're returning to the characters of D1 hurts D2 more than it helps.

I think the cutscenes we've seen so far look really cool! Great setup for a new game, exciting, climactic battle to kick things off. I thought the little intro story featuring Zavala was good... exactly the kind of thing we needed in D1. I only have 1 problem with it, and that's Zavala. I don't like him. Or Ikora, or Cayde, or Amanda... all the characters from D1 are just paper-cutouts in my mind. Skin-deep caricatures. The idea of spending more time with these characters is a turn off for me.

I found myself wishing I was watching a cast of new characters in these cutscenes. I would have no preexisting attachment to new characters, but in the case of Destiny's cast, D2 is actually starting at a negative. I hope Bungie will be able to add enough value to these characters that they can overcome their weak introductions in D1. It is certainly possible. I just don't know how likely it is.

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I literally thought while watching it "I bet Cruel is happy they put Cayde back in his place," so I'm a bit surprised he still turned you off! :)

I thought the previous announcement trailers were exciting and comedic but understood the concerns around them. Today though, I thought the cinematics hit the balance of mood and fun just right for a game like Destiny. In fact, I thought it revealed a premise to the campaign that was eerily similar to what some of those who disliked the teaser wanted instead.

With all the backstory and history I saw in just these cutscenes, plus NPCs (!) included in the missions, I feel like they are really heading in the right direction!

...But I will admit I cringed at one of Cayde's lines - that is, when the Activision dude repeated them! :D

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I just watched the intro cutscene and the gameplay trailer for a 2nd time, and I literally cringed every single time Cayde said anything. Which is strange, because I've replayed a bunch of the TTK story missions and strikes in recent weeks, and he didn't bother me at all there. But with D2's marketing, they're clearly leaning on Cayde as "Mr comic relief", and I find it so lame that I get pulled out of what I'm watching every time I see him. This is just my own personal annoyance to get over, but it made me think about the characters of Destiny in a greater sense. And I think, for me, the fact that we're returning to the characters of D1 hurts D2 more than it helps.

I think the cutscenes we've seen so far look really cool! Great setup for a new game, exciting, climactic battle to kick things off. I thought the little intro story featuring Zavala was good... exactly the kind of thing we needed in D1. I only have 1 problem with it, and that's Zavala. I don't like him. Or Ikora, or Cayde, or Amanda... all the characters from D1 are just paper-cutouts in my mind. Skin-deep caricatures. The idea of spending more time with these characters is a turn off for me.

I found myself wishing I was watching a cast of new characters in these cutscenes. I would have no preexisting attachment to new characters, but in the case of Destiny's cast, D2 is actually starting at a negative.

I hope Bungie will be able to add enough value to these characters that they can overcome their weak introductions in D1. It is certainly possible. I just don't know how likely it is.

I find it funny that you would say this because you just said "all the characters from D1 are just paper-cutouts in my mind" So what is there to overcome? I literally knew nothing about Zavala before now. I just got an introduction to a guy that all I knew about him was that he was blue and a leader. Same goes for Ikora, I know nothing about her. I actually know a little bit about Cayde, but not much. I would be delighted to get more story on them and it would have to bypass any negative stuff other than "they don't have a story"

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I just watched the intro cutscene and the gameplay trailer for a 2nd time, and I literally cringed every single time Cayde said anything. Which is strange, because I've replayed a bunch of the TTK story missions and strikes in recent weeks, and he didn't bother me at all there. But with D2's marketing, they're clearly leaning on Cayde as "Mr comic relief", and I find it so lame that I get pulled out of what I'm watching every time I see him. This is just my own personal annoyance to get over, but it made me think about the characters of Destiny in a greater sense. And I think, for me, the fact that we're returning to the characters of D1 hurts D2 more than it helps.

I think the cutscenes we've seen so far look really cool! Great setup for a new game, exciting, climactic battle to kick things off. I thought the little intro story featuring Zavala was good... exactly the kind of thing we needed in D1. I only have 1 problem with it, and that's Zavala. I don't like him. Or Ikora, or Cayde, or Amanda... all the characters from D1 are just paper-cutouts in my mind. Skin-deep caricatures. The idea of spending more time with these characters is a turn off for me.

I found myself wishing I was watching a cast of new characters in these cutscenes. I would have no preexisting attachment to new characters, but in the case of Destiny's cast, D2 is actually starting at a negative.

I hope Bungie will be able to add enough value to these characters that they can overcome their weak introductions in D1. It is certainly possible. I just don't know how likely it is.

I find it funny that you would say this because you just said "all the characters from D1 are just paper-cutouts in my mind" So what is there to overcome? I literally knew nothing about Zavala before now. I just got an introduction to a guy that all I knew about him was that he was blue and a leader. Same goes for Ikora, I know nothing about her. I actually know a little bit about Cayde, but not much. I would be delighted to get more story on them and it would have to bypass any negative stuff other than "they don't have a story"

That's a totally fair point, and if the storytelling in Des2ny is strong enough I very well might come to the end of the game really loving these characters it's totally possible.

I think the place I'm coming from now is that starting fresh with new characters would be starting from "neutral". But the handling of the characters in Destiny 1 has pushed them into negative territory in my mind. I see Zavala and I just roll my eyes, because my brain already identifies him as a lame character... this is how I react to every character in Destiny. I'm already biased against them all. None of this is a big deal for me at all, because my expectations for Destiny have shifted a lot over the past 3 years. I don't play Destiny to experience a good story. I'm just wondering out loud: would a new cast of characters help me jump into Des2ny without bringing as much baggage from D1 with me. I suspect the answer is "yes". But it doesn't really matter.

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You're not mad at the characters, you're mad at Bungie for letting you down. Now, it sounds like you're going out of your way to set yourself up for disappointment. Starting characters that were merely underutilized at a negative? You really do need a detox. :(

And yes, there's a difference between being mad at a studio and being mad at a character. You can easily be mad at both. I certainly am mad at 343 over both Halo 4's overall crappiness and the complete flip flopping idiocy that was the Halo 4 Didact. But you can also be just mad at a character. For instance, I thought Halo 3 was awesome but Halo 3's Prophet of Truth was a stupid turn from what appeared to be a devious, intelligent villain to a naive religious nut.

I'd advise you to not pin unrealistic expectations on Destiny 2. Enjoy it for what it will be. Don't ask it to be good and then demand it to also overcome your anger or disappointment or grudge or whatever this is that you have lingering from Destiny 1.

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You're not mad at the characters, you're mad at Bungie for letting you down. Now, it sounds like you're going out of your way to set yourself up for disappointment. Starting characters that were merely underutilized at a negative? You really do need a detox. :(

And yes, there's a difference between being mad at a studio and being mad at a character. You can easily be mad at both. I certainly am mad at 343 over both Halo 4's overall crappiness and the complete flip flopping idiocy that was the Halo 4 Didact. But you can also be just mad at a character. For instance, I thought Halo 3 was awesome but Halo 3's Prophet of Truth was a stupid turn from what appeared to be a devious, intelligent villain to a naive religious nut.

I'd advise you to not pin unrealistic expectations on Destiny 2. Enjoy it for what it will be. Don't ask it to be good and then demand it to also overcome your anger or disappointment or grudge or whatever this is that you have lingering from Destiny 1.

I totally hear what you're saying. Just for the sake of clarity, I should stress that I don't feel "angry" about any of it. This is all just the analytical "game critic" side of my brain trying to work out what kind of potential Destiny 2 has in a variety of ways.

As a Destiny player, I have totally made peace with what Destiny is (and what it isn't). As I already said, I no longer expect any form of satisfaction from Destiny's story or characters. And I'm ok with the that.

This whole train of thought I'm on is just my response to what Bungie is telling us and showing us. It is clear that they want to make the story and characters a more significant aspect of Destiny 2. The thoughts I'm having all surround the question of can Bungie make me care about Destiny's story and characters. If so, what would it take for that to happen?

If I jump into Destiny 2 and I find that the game's story and characters still fail to grab my interest, I will still enjoy the game just fine. I just think that'd be a shame from Bungie's perspective, because they so obviously want me, and all Destiny players, to care about that stuff.

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I wrote a post a while back about how I'd love to see Bungie bring melee combat more prominently into the sandbox, but not in a button-mashy way. The little combo move that we see Zavala do in this video is a perfect example of the kind of combat abilities I'd love to have within the game. I don't think we'll actually see it at this point, but I still love the idea.

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Anyone else get a Tron vibe from the new tanks & (of course) the new void subclass?

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The gameplay looked good. The cinematics told stories on multiple levels, some of which you'd only understand if you knew the backstory. The Sentinel looks like what you'd get if you designed a Defender to not have a negative k/d.

Oh... and some class of Titan can summon an ice wall?!

I'll see you all starside, 'cause I'm in.

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I liked what I saw.

You know I've been pretty down on Destiny pretty often. I don't know that Destiny 2 fixes any of the problems I have, but it looks like it's at least trying to. Having a good campaign with a neat story will make me happy.

Maybe it's just nostalgia, maybe it's just hype, but I miss Destiny, and damnit all, I'm looking forward to playing again. Hopefully I'll have reliable internet at my house by September!

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Destiny 2 reveal stream note thread. (Destiny)

Dest2ny : The May 18th Gameplay Reveal! (post here)

Look, I waited a really long time…

twitch not working for me

Twitch also not working for me. Need to subscribe?

No issues for me.

worked fine until the last 5-10 mins then laggy as hell

I set the bar low and it was exceeded.

I set the bar low and it was exceeded.

I set the bar low and it was exceeded.

I set the bar low and it was exceeded.

I set the bar low and it was exceeded.

...and there was a mention of regaining the light.

1 hour without light, 2.5 years with it.

1 hour without light, 2.5 years with it.

1 hour without light, 2.5 years with it.

I set the bar low and it was exceeded.

"The 2 is a reminder" - Luke Smith

Luke promises sub-thread.

"there will always be someone to play with"

They are moveing the ...

Well we now know whats behind that DAM door.

New Supers sub thread

New Supers sub thread

Staff not sword. But yeah. Felt very similar.

Hunters = Donatello

New Supers sub thread

Are these replacements, or in addition to...

Are these replacements, or in addition to...

Are these replacements, or in addition to...

There is still a part of me that is thinking modability.

Are these replacements, or in addition to...

Are these replacements, or in addition to...

Are these replacements, or in addition to...

Bungie has upped their cutscene game.

Let's hope they don't compress the shit out of them on disc

I meant the way it showcases personality and emotion

(Guess) Can we mod supers? Sword?

Elemental primaries are back... kind of?

I think we can call this a ViDoc?

I think we can call this a ViDoc?

Game Activities sub-thread:

Capitan America is confirmed a titan.

Darth Maul = Hunter

Darth Maul = Hunter

Dark Souls = Warlock

One question remains...

One question remains...

Dest2ny got all hardcore. You have one life. You die...

Dest2ny got all hardcore. You have one life. You die...

That's a Myth

One question remains...

One question remains...

LOL. This is now head cannon and I love it.

Crucible info sub-thread

All PvP is four man modes???? Wth?

All PvP is four man modes???? Wth?

I keep expecting to hear that I misunderstood them.

Agree, not at all happy with that

I love this move.

Bleah

Bleah

Correction

Correction

Bleah

Bleah

I hate it

NO MORE ORBIT!!! XD

HZD's Cauldrons confirmed, called "Lost Sectors".

But they use the bunker icon. Crazy!

No need for DestinyPublicEvents timer

4 worlds:

4 worlds:

4 worlds:

Want dis:

Want dis:

Want dis:

4 worlds:

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